Jump shots ...just how much power do you need?

Illegal?

desertshark said:
Personally when I started jumping, I tried to meet the tip right at when impact would be hitting the ball and table at the same time; essentially trying to get the tip of the cue to hit right where the ball sat. I found it easier at time progressed to jump 2 balls and eventually practicing to barely jump over one for a more controlled hop.

I mostly have used house cues to do this but found my utility cue was easier due to the curvature of the tip.

(Pardon my explanation in actual terms as I am new into terminology of billiards but have played quite a lot...)
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Seems no one else wants to respond to your post...

It sounds like you're using the "scoop shot" to jump, which is illegal.
With a legal jump shot, when your tip strikes the cue ball, the cue ball is BETWEEN the tip and the table surface.

Watch the videos listed on this thread or Google "jump shots pool" and you'll see two basic, legal methods. (Legal where jumping is allowed!)
 
Good pool etiquette while jumping-especially the lonnnnng table length jumps with full cue:

Warn those down range that you are 'launching' and to keep their heads up watching for multiple flying balls.:eek:

It's the neighborly thing to do.
 
3RAILKICK said:
Good pool etiquette while jumping-especially the lonnnnng table length jumps with full cue:

Warn those down range that you are 'launching' and to keep their heads up watching for multiple flying balls.:eek:

It's the neighborly thing to do.
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Eheheh. :)

Well, after a few minutes practice, things started to fall into place. Turns out that jumping really isn't as hard as I'd feared. After I made my first jump pot (jumping an object ball about six inches away, and potting a ball over a pocket about seven feet away) I repeated the set-up, and to my surprise made the second shot too. Then tried it a third time ...and made it! Carried on going, expecting to miss on each subsequent attempt, but after 25 pots in a row, I realised that I can now jump consistently and almost effortlessly.

A flicking dart-like motion really is all that is needed.

So, to anyone who's a bit scared to try learning to jump, I would say don't be afraid. It's just an art, not a black art. :)

And once again, I really would like to thank everyone who posted itt. Very very helpful bunch of guys (and galls) here on azbilliards. :thumbup:
 
Outlaw Jumping

Jumping injures the table. Learn how to play without it. Maybe yo should be allowed to mark a ball thats in your way like they do in golf?! At one time the stimie was the rule and you had to jump over on the green. Learn to "Kick":wink:
 
truman said:
Jumping injures the table. Learn how to play without it. Maybe yo should be allowed to mark a ball thats in your way like they do in golf?! At one time the stimie was the rule and you had to jump over on the green. Learn to "Kick":wink:
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Ha, well, remember what I said in my first post. I did indeed learn to play without jumping, since you're not allowed to jump in English pool.

As for tables, the owner of my local club congratulated me on my jumping yesterday evening. He takes good care of the tables (all 18 of them) and he's never once objected to anyone using jump shots, so I can't imagine jumping is that bad for them.
 
Must be the modern cloth

Must be the modern cloth that holds up to the jump shots:grin:Just kidding with you.
Luther Blissett said:
Ha, well, remember what I said in my first post. I did indeed learn to play without jumping, since you're not allowed to jump in English pool.

As for tables, the owner of my local club congratulated me on my jumping yesterday evening. He takes good care of the tables (all 18 of them) and he's never once objected to anyone using jump shots, so I can't imagine jumping is that bad for them.
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truman said:
Jumping injures the table. Learn how to play without it.
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By this metric, so does breaking--but I bet you cannot play the games without breaking!

Seriously, the little dimple in the cloth from a jump is considerably smaller and lighter than the pock mark from hitting the CB hard with draw on the break shot! In addition say you have a ball 1 inch from a rail and need fairly big draw on it to manover the CB after impact with OB--these leave bigger marks on the cloth than a simple jump.

Jumping does not harm the slate, nor the CB when done properly.
 
I wonder how long the 'buzz' will last. ...You know, obviously right now I'm as happy as a sand boy every time I have a reason to use the jump stick, and I wonder how long it will be before it stops feeling 'special' and starts feeling like just another routine shot.

Played for about ten hours today and had loads of chances to jump (especially in nine ball). Enjoyed every single shot. :smile:

...There were even times when I had pretty simple one cushion escapes, but I just couldn't resist jumping instead. :grin:

Before I bought a jump cue it was the one missing slot in my cue case and the one missing element in my game. Now though I know I've always got the option of jumping if it's the best shot. Also, being a bit of a show-off I really like it when beginners on the other tables turn and look at my and my friends jumping balls all over the place. :rolleyes:

The only thing I'll have to be careful with is not jumping when I haven't got my hair tied back. The non-hippies among you may be surprised to learn that jumping using the overhand method means it's easy for people with long hair to accidentally rip out a few hairs with every jump shot. :eek:
 
dr_dave said:
The jump shot is definitely not about power ... it is about proper technique.
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Thanks Dave. Since making my original post I have indeed discovered that a flicking dart-like motion really is all that is needed. Contrary to my initial fears, I've discovered that jumps can be made without a great deal of power.

Thanks nonetheless for your response.

In fact, pretty much everyone who posted itt offered remarkably sage advice. I am tempted to go through and reply to each post individually, but I hope you all know that you're appreciated.

Sooner or later I'll make some jump videos and post them here. Basically I went from noob to proficient jumper in about 25 minutes. ...And I really don't think that's because I have some sort of extraordinary talent. Rather, it's because jumping is much less difficult that a lot of people might think. :)

May that be a source of hope and encouragement to any players out there who've not got into jumping but who are considering it.
 
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