jump sticks and 14.1
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I think about 99.9% of all 14.1 players would quit your friend mid-game. BCA rules state you must jump with your playing cue.
Call me an old-school purist, but I would quit mid game regardless of the cue used to jump. Jumping and 14.1 should not be mentioned in the same sentence... or same conversation for that matter.
Well, I wouldn't rule out jumping altogether. If the target is hanging and the required jump is small, it's the correct shot. Beyond these situations, I would not advise jumping but if my opponent wants to give it a whirl, they have my blessing.
This thread is about using a jump cue, not calling a jump.
I understand, but as the above poster stated, some people would quit regardless of which cue was used.
Like I said, I'm a purist, and maybe a little stubborn, but I would go rail first or even masse before I would ever attempt a jump in a game of straight pool. :barf:
I agree, my opponent can take all the low percentage shots he wants.
True... I may be a purist at heart, but if my opponent were to attempt this shot, I'd probably let him - especially if only a few balls were open and there was a good chance he would open up the rest of them with a crazy shot. The odds would definitely be against him making it - and the only downside would be if he actually did.
What about at times which comes up quite often when you have to make the object ball jump, technically you are still performing a jumpshot with the cueball to make the object ball get airborne !!
Steve
For most jump cues, you could call a foul. The WPA rules (actually, equipment regulations) require a leather tip (or leather-like material). Phenolic does not comply.
As for jumping, I see no problem with jumping with your playing cue. Maybe 14.1 needs an additional requirement that you may not change cues for specific shots.
As for jumping, I see no problem with jumping with your playing cue. Maybe 14.1 needs an additional requirement that you may not change cues for specific shots.
That sounds like a great idea bob, leave it to you !!!
you must play the game that you started using at opening break, with the exception of an equipment problem that would make you change shafts or cues.
this is pretty standardized for all other sports that use a bat, club or stick of some sorts to play the game.
-Steve
Yes, the WPA has no rule on using a jump cue for 14.1. However, the BCA rules specifically state you must use your regular playing cue and most 14.1 tournaments I've played in will ban the use of jump cues in the players' meeting. In fact, I cannot remember ever playing in a 14.1 event that allowed jump cues although I've heard that wasn't always the case.
I agree with that, and I've even used a punch shot to get the cueball airborne (after contact with the object ball) so that the cueball lands on top of the stack to open them better - a la Jim Rempe. But I'm talking about your conventional jump the cueball over an object ball to pocket another object ball shot like the OP stated. Why would you ever want to do that in 14.1???? It's not 9-ball. It doesn't matter which ball you hit first. Like I said earlier, I'd go rail first, masse, or just shoot the combination. Any of those - even the masse - to me are a higher percentage option than jumping. Or better yet, play the highest percentage shot of all - SAFE.
I have to believe you're thinking of situations where you need to get the cueball to jump 3" or more. If this is the thought going through your mind, I agree. There is no full-cue jump shot that requires a 3" height clearance that should ever be labeled as the correct shot in 14.1 However, there are plenty of jump shots involving a smaller jump where the success rate is going to be much much higher.
I am. I'm thinking a 9-ball type shot where for example you have to jump the 6-ball to hit/make the 1-ball, etc. That's also the way I interpreted the OP's post.
I think it's funny how every one wants the sport to be more competitive, but when thing's like jump cues get used every pisses their pants. I can jump both ways, I use a 15.2oz cue to play with which makes things easier for me, but if some one gets out a jump cue i never get upset. it's part of the game, if you can't handle it, don't play, or stipulate that when making the game.
once again, just my $.02
once again, just my $.02