They don't... They just have their own secret formula to decide what "pro level" means.
Just got home from Vegas APA
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BJ was fifth in mosconi points last I checked
I'm sure you're right. Another poster mentioned fargo rating being the determining factor for eligibility. Can't be true since Brian is 7 points higher than BJ. Jeff Abernathy from Whiteout is the player that got me.
"All animals are equal, but some are more equal than others"
Glad to read it (lol)
I like Larry. Good guy who I never did get to see often enough.
There are enough participants to make you both right.
I know if I am going to play a tournament then I'm gonna get in stroke.
If I'm just hitting balls for fun and without a goal I won't be beating me of the paragraph above.
I will be having fun though.
Really should keep in mind that the "Masters" event is subsidized by the other 'regular league' tournament fees. You can certainly say that we were shafted, but in reality they boosted the winnings for the divisions that foot the bill.
This year was the year of the pool player, and not the Valley BB specialist. I witnessed much cleaner pool this time around.
I stopped bothering with the minis a few years ago... There was a time when they allowed the refs (volunteers) to buy spots before open release to the public. Which was great for those players that were in matches when sign ups were released. They also would promote a "who wants it" show of hands for no-shows minutes before minis started. I'm only allowed to play in the open minis, if the mood hits them, and even then the prize pool wasn't enough to peak my interest. That said, I know of a few players that lived in the mini arena.
There was a major gap in talent. That said, I went up against some with fargos ~550 that played nearly a 100pts higher.
If you were lucky... I'm assuming it's automated but we had one round announced via Compusport a mere 5mins before the scheduled start time. I have to think everyone experienced this at that moment in time.
I fully understand that the majority (if not all) floor refs are volunteers. Unfortunately this is the one aspect where, imo, the event suffers. It's not common at all to have refs disagree about the rules.
I really enjoyed the tables this year. Even though the facing angles like to spit balls. The pockets looked wide, but it was the facing angle that it appear that way. Clip that inside point at all with pace, and expect it to come back at you.
I stopped playing the minis a few years ago. Just not my speed. It may have changed, but in prior years you could only sign up for a mini within 24hrs of it's start time, and there was always a decent line that hopefully wasn't going to fill up the event you wanted before you got up front. Monday morning I was with the crowd being held back in the main hallway prior to 8am. Once the clock struck 8 and the security dude allowed us to enter. A few people ran full tilt for the mini desk...lol.
I wish I would have known you were there. I would love to have put a face to the name! How did your team do?
Not sure what you mean by this, we pay masters league fees in my area just like everyone else. I know some smaller regions hold a single masters tournament, but most are typical league sessions.
Agreed. The pockets were quite generous (maybe from the low humidity?), but much cleaner pool being played all around.
I did mention it here. Not that I would expect everyone to search the forum looking for it...lol.
My team hasn't been able to make it passed the round of 33rd. We fell one short of that this year. We were notably weaker this year though, so I'm not disappointed in the effort. I did have high hopes at the end of the season as we did have a decently strong team. However 2 of the stronger players didn't make the trip for varying reasons. We end up using a sub for our third.
We got knocked out in 'sudden death'. The other team refused to flip until their captain showed up, (they told me their match prior took over 3.5hrs to complete). Which put us behind a little under 10mins. ...and then the ref refused to change our start time on the score sheet when we brought it to his attention. We lost the first set, and I won the 2nd against the slowest player I have ever witnessed...lol. The man went as far as to shape his tip between shots. Even after it became very obvious the rate of play was going to push us into SD. He refused to alter his pace. In hindsight I blame myself for not requesting a ref to monitor him. In SD our third (weakest) played very well and was a shot away from winning it. As a team we had a hard time adjusting to the pace of the tables and he over hit his key ball by less than 1/4". Our third was the stronger player but in a race to 2, anything can happen. I'm fully confident that he would have won a race 7 with decent margin.
No sour grapes. Although we went up the food chain all the way to the TD to dispute the start time. Even our opponents were lobbying for the altered time. Our captain made such a compelling argument that they resorted to "just cause" rebuttals and threatening to boot him if he continued....lol.
Looking forward to next year
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I mean that the entry fees for Masters in Vegas does not cover the payouts and expenses to hold that event.
I wouldn't have called them generous. More like "deceiving". They looked bigger than they played. If you enjoyed them, then the years of the valley BB must have seem rolling a pingpong ball into the Grand Canyon...lol
We’re are the results?
Compusport is a flash type website so I can't paste a direct link to the results. However...
CompuSport - 2023 APA WORLD POOL CHAMPIONSHIPS
Tournaments and leagues manager / Gestionnaire de tournois et de ligues sportives
compusport.us
Follow that and then use the drop down on the right hand side. Click on "Main" and then whatever division you want to view.
Several brackets feed into the final draw. It provides a dead link to payouts. <--typical compusport functionality
If there were 373 teams and the entry fee was $150, the purse was $55,950. Minis and Showdown Series events are 100% payback of entry fees (greens fees support the cost of the tables), but that's all. All events are self-supporting. The two Open events have money added. The entry fee for those is $250 and every team receives $350 at arrival, so about $130,000 plus whatever teams win beyond the initial $350 is added money. The Masters event could have a larger entry fee, but APA doesn't want a Showdown Series event to have higher payouts than the main events and they don't want to raise the payouts in those events because they don't want the focus of those events to be too much about the money.
None of the events are about the money
Loose math has the payouts at nearly 50k. ..so factor in the cost of hosting and the Masters event doesn't pay for itself.
Not sure if you were arguing with me, but I'm not the one complaining...lol
What green fees...? We didn't pay for a single rack within the event.