Just got kicked out from tourney

Let me understand this Tournment Director gets paid by venue like Fast Food Work doing job of drawing names, call matches, move ing name from ine bracket to another, enforcing rules, checking close shot to be legal, last paying winners.

House pay them to do job, and your tipping percentage of your winning. What %, and why, I see no reason for tip, or gratuity.

Your effort won you what? Pocket changed? Now your sharing with TD?

The is almost no money in bar tournaments after vomiting, quarter in bar box or green fee. Say event gos 5 - 6 hours what did you make aftrer out of pocket? Less then
Pimpled face kid make at fast food joint.

Tournament Director should get minim wedge for time on job, $12.80/hr. In AZ. Winner is guaranteed zero, their shill land em in first place.

Remember old North Lounge, if you won a Tuesday 9 ball event first paid 50-75 bucks, nothing left to share. Deduct Gas, etc, TD wss making more then winner.
The venues don't pay the TD. The tournament is usually listed as something like "$20 entry fee *includes $3 green fee and $2 TD fee"
 
The venues don't pay the TD. The tournament is usually listed as something like "$20 entry fee *includes $3 green fee and $2 TD fee"


Interesting way to do things, sounds like TD is thankless job.

Know most of the small bars, owners did TD thing.

Friend was Referee in Las Vegas BCAPL they got paid next to nothing, like 50 bucks for 10-13 hr. Shift.🤮
 
I’ve ran 1 5 pack in my life on 5” pockets in Bakersfield Ca in 89 or 90. The reason I remember is there’s only one. My break is so bad a 2 pack is a miracle. If I could break like SVB…..couldn’t we all? 🤣😂
 
I’ve ran 1 5 pack in my life on 5” pockets in Bakersfield Ca in 89 or 90. The reason I remember is there’s only one. My break is so bad a 2 pack is a miracle. If I could break like SVB…..couldn’t we all? 🤣😂
My best competitively was running a 3 pack (on a tight diamond that was formerly used in us open) on a former state champion in the final of a 9 ball tournament. I had to beat him twice to win. He pulled every move while I was whipping him the first set (including the 3 pack). Crying about the rack, about rolls..I felt embarrassed for him. Then, afterward, he came up and apologized. My friend said, don't listen to that crap - it's another move. Get him, again. He won the second set handily...I had lost the fire. I've put bigger packages together in practice..but I don't count them.

Edit to add...and in the way I classify players, I was a C+ player. A players are the ELITE...
 
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My best competitively was running a 3 pack (on a tight diamond that was formerly used in us open) on a former state champion in the final of a 9 ball tournament. I had to beat him twice to win. He pulled every move while I was whipping him the first set (including the 3 pack). Crying about the rack, about rolls..I felt embarrassed for him. Then, afterward, he came up and apologized. My friend said, don't listen to that crap - it's another move. Get him, again. He won the second set handily...I had lost the fire. I've put bigger packages together in practice..but I don't count them.

Edit to add...and in the way I classify players, I was a C+ player. A players are the ELITE...

Bites to get beaten off the table. Happened to me in a friend's place. My friend had just bought the bar and was using these tournaments to help get known. The guy playing me in the finals was mouthing off at a level that would have normally got one warning then a jaw jacked. The last thing my friend needed was a fight in his place. Angry and frustrated because my hands were tied I lost that match.

That loss galled me a lot worse and a lot longer than some more serious losses. Still rankles forty years later when something reminds me. Maybe I'll hunt the guy up and challenge him to a match, no cues, walking canes only!

Hu
 
Honestly I doubt it's 17 out of 21 he's probably exaggerating not sure. Also COUNTLESS times MULTIPLE players had amazing chances against me. They choke and fall apart. I can't tell you how many times I thought it was over and they don't get out. I maybe broke and ran like 8 times TOTAL out of all my times there.
only 8 break and runs amidst 17 tourney wins?

lol, right

question for you? as you have received alot of good feedback, what is your plan to resolve the situation?
 
Bites to get beaten off the table. Happened to me in a friend's place. My friend had just bought the bar and was using these tournaments to help get known. The guy playing me in the finals was mouthing off at a level that would have normally got one warning then a jaw jacked. The last thing my friend needed was a fight in his place. Angry and frustrated because my hands were tied I lost that match.

That loss galled me a lot worse and a lot longer than some more serious losses. Still rankles forty years later when something reminds me. Maybe I'll hunt the guy up and challenge him to a match, no cues, walking canes only!

Hu
This guy was a way better player than me. 100 ball straight pool runner. Multiple discipline state-champion, etc. I was just playing above my head that tournament. But, we had been cool and he knew me. I couldn't believe all of his crying when I was playing so well, and insinuating i was doing somethign special to the rack when I put that 3 on him. That was weak.
 
maybe kick in a little extra $$$ into the pool to get back in

many ways to skin this cat

as was alluded to previously, I suspect there is much more to this story, the defensive nature of the op and what not
 
This guy was a way better player than me. 100 ball straight pool runner. Multiple discipline state-champion, etc. I was just playing above my head that tournament. But, we had been cool and he knew me. I couldn't believe all of his crying when I was playing so well, and insinuating i was doing somethign special to the rack when I put that 3 on him. That was weak.

Always interesting to see what comes out when a usual winner is losing. Easy to be a gracious winner with surface plock without having to dig into yourself. When you lose and can still retain that class, that shows some real class. I had an awful pistol match, dropped the most points I had that season. A young man came running up after the match, very excited. "I have been trying to beat your score all season and I have finally done it!" He was beaming, grinning ear to ear! It would have been easy to point out my uncharacteristic score but instead I didn't mention my score, I congratulated him on achieving his goal. I don't quite qualify for sainthood though, I couldn't resist saying, "now do it again!"

Hu
 
Always interesting to see what comes out when a usual winner is losing. Easy to be a gracious winner ...When you lose and can still retain that class, that shows some real class....yo

I congratulated him on achieving his goal. I don't quite qualify for sainthood though, I couldn't resist saying, "now do it again!"

Hu
True words. I have beaten a few bullies and lost to them a lot more often.

I've been insulted, or for the opportunity to be punched, offered the seven...

Only once have I gotten a smile and a congrats I felt was genuine.

Shaun Wilkie. I think he was happier to see me winner than he would have been to win himself.
 
I have never ripped a td and have been real good enough friends with a few. They've never half ribbed me about their cut...

I have never seen a td tipped, in fact.
If I saw someone tip a TD, I'd never play in a tournament that they ran again. That seems like bribery. It might be some old school etiquette but F that, too sketchy.
 
You don't tip? Gee who'da guessed?

Now that you mention it, there was a thread about you and tipping, wasn't there?


I have never Tips a Tournament Director, see zero reason when they Own Bar, Pool Room, or are getting paid to be TD.

Please do not tell me how to spend my money, unless you are filling my wallet with 💰💰💰💰💰.
 
Always interesting to see what comes out when a usual winner is losing. Easy to be a gracious winner with surface plock without having to dig into yourself. When you lose and can still retain that class, that shows some real class. I had an awful pistol match, dropped the most points I had that season. A young man came running up after the match, very excited. "I have been trying to beat your score all season and I have finally done it!" He was beaming, grinning ear to ear! It would have been easy to point out my uncharacteristic score but instead I didn't mention my score, I congratulated him on achieving his goal. I don't quite qualify for sainthood though, I couldn't resist saying, "now do it again!"

Hu
I'm not happy when I lose, mainly when I shoot poorly, but I hope I've never diminished someone else's joy from winning. Now that I'm a bit further along in my playing, it's much easier to shake off a bad game, as they are becoming a smaller percentage of my performance. It's usually the people who have started to achieve and are trying to put some space between their current status as a "player" and their previous status as a pudknocker that tend to act the fool.
 
I'm not happy when I lose, mainly when I shoot poorly, but I hope I've never diminished someone else's joy from winning. Now that I'm a bit further along in my playing, it's much easier to shake off a bad game, as they are becoming a smaller percentage of my performance. It's usually the people who have started to achieve and are trying to put some space between their current status as a "player" and their previous status as a pudknocker that tend to act the fool.


Truth is as you age or mature it is ability to play, and get some enjoyment from playing pool that is important.

I quit the tournament thing because of people having to win at any cost, cheating, drunks, and tantrums.

Fun ended, and I said no more. Why go into drama, when it bad.
 
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