Just tried a titanium ferrule...

Colin Colenso

Colin Colenso

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Wondered if anyone else out there have tried a titanium ferrule.

A mate of mine just had this made. It's a titanium sleeve which goes over the previous plastic ferrule and shaft. 11.8mm diameter with Lepro tip. It plays very solid. I smashed a few breaks with it with zero sign of weakness.

It squirts a little more than my own 11.8mm cue which is all plastic, but the difference is insignificant. Pivot point is about 12 inches which is a couple of inches forward of a z shaft. I would expect it will have a longer life than a plastic ferrule, that may be its key advantage, being relatively light and durable.

It would be interesting to try a titanium sleeve with a light composite fill for low tip end mass.
 

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LHP5 said:
That's interesting but is it even legal to use?
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I assume so, but don't know for sure. In the English games, brass (metal) ferrules are the standard. They do a great job protecting the shaft from wear. I'm sure some US people here would know if there is a ban on metal ferrules. :cool:
 
Kim Bye said:
I wonder how a carbon fibre ferrule would work?
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I'd think it's a good option. I'd be surprised if some haven't already tried it. I believe that various fiber in plastic compounds have been used... I recall trying one, though I didn't record the details of the exact compounds.
 
Being just a sleeve I can't imagine it being able to change anything feel wise. Ought to be insanely light as well.

Look neat tho.

There are CF ferrules in use, mostly only on break/jump cues that I have seen tho. Historically pool players are highly resistant to 'modern' appearing technology. :)
 
LHP5 said:
That's interesting but is it even legal to use?
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My (unreliable) memory tells me the BCA rules limit overall weight, and prohibits moving parts. They do not restrict material compositions, other than tip material.

Should be legal, I think.
 
RRfireblade said:
Being just a sleeve I can't imagine it being able to change anything feel wise. Ought to be insanely light as well.

Look neat tho.

There are CF ferrules in use, mostly only on break/jump cues that I have seen tho. Historically pool players are highly resistant to 'modern' appearing technology. :)
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By sleeve, I mean it goes over the previous plastic ferrule and shaft below that, which have been lathed down. It is still essentially a ferrule, albeit about 1mm thick.

Thanks for your feedback. I've no interest to promote this item, just to share some eccentric experimentation with fellow enthusiasts :D
 
Shaft said:
My (unreliable) memory tells me the BCA rules limit overall weight, and prohibits moving parts. They do not restrict material compositions, other than tip material.

Should be legal, I think.
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Thanks Shaft, glad to hear that. We'll keep the internal robot mechanism a secret :p
 
Does the "hit" sound any different then the cue makes contact with the cueball?
 
Should be legal, but I don't see the advantages. Other than being able to easily clean it.
 
JAM said:
Does the "hit" sound any different then the cue makes contact with the cueball?
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It sounds the same as far as I can tell JAM. It does feel a bit more solid though, if that makes sense.. similar to a solid contact we'd expect from a hard tip, but not with the high pitched clicky sound a hard tip gives. Plastic and horn ferrules always felt softer to me than the typical brass ferrules we're used to in the commonwealth.

Kind regard JAM... nice to see you're still active here. People's are lucky to have ya :D
 
Colin Colenso said:
It sounds the same as far as I can tell JAM. It does feel a bit more solid though, if that makes sense.. similar to a solid contact we'd expect from a hard tip, but not with the high pitched clicky sound a hard tip gives. Plastic and horn ferrules always felt softer to me than the typical brass ferrules we're used to in the commonwealth.

Kind regard JAM... nice to see you're still active here. People's are lucky to have ya :D
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Thanks so much, Colin. The forum seems much richer now that you're back. We all enjoy your posts! :smile:

This titanium ferrule piques my interest. I had to get a tooth implant a year or so ago, and the screw that goes into the jaw bone was made of titanium. Then I read somewhere that titanium may be worth more than platinum or gold. These titanium ferrules might be the way to go. If they can hold teeth in the mouth, they're strong. :D
 
DAVE_M said:
Should be legal, but I don't see the advantages. Other than being able to easily clean it.
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Apart from fashion, I'm thinking;
1. Metal is way better at resisting erosion from chalking, sanding and other potential ferrule wearing actions or accidents.

2. Perhaps it could be taken down to 0.5mm or less thickness and filled with low density material to provide a low tip end mass which is more durable than predator types.

3. Could be useful as a break cue ferrule.. very strong, durable.
 
JAM said:
Thanks so much, Colin. The forum seems much richer now that you're back. We all enjoy your posts! :smile:

This titanium ferrule piques my interest. I had to get a tooth implant a year or so ago, and the screw that goes into the jaw bone was made of titanium. Then I read somewhere that titanium may be worth more than platinum or gold. These titanium ferrules might be the way to go. If they can hold teeth in the mouth, they're strong. :D
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Titanium is an impressive material. Almost as light as aluminum but much stronger. A 2 foot rod, good for about 20 ferrules only costs about $90, but the lathing etc costs about $100 per ferrule for creating and putting on, by our local cuesmith.

Thanks for the warm words JAM. Several of you here have made it a family atmosphere as well as an educational experience. I still remember our meeting in Las Vegas... like old friends from the first meet :-)
 
A timascus ferrule would be pretty neat. I'm not sure on the weight though.
 
Colin Colenso said:
Wondered if anyone else out there have tried a titanium ferrule.

A mate of mine just had this made. It's a titanium sleeve which goes over the previous plastic ferrule and shaft. 11.8mm diameter with Lepro tip. It plays very solid. I smashed a few breaks with it with zero sign of weakness.

It squirts a little more than my own 11.8mm cue which is all plastic, but the difference is insignificant. Pivot point is about 12 inches which is a couple of inches forward of a z shaft. I would expect it will have a longer life than a plastic ferrule, that may be its key advantage, being relatively light and durable.

It would be interesting to try a titanium sleeve with a light composite fill for low tip end mass.
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Im glad to see you posting again, Colin!

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