...somebody tosses a rule (APA) out at 'ya that you're positive is NOT in the books.
Now, I'm not slammin' the APA leagues or nothing, I'm just shaking my head in awe of some of the dumba** rules that people can come with (especially when it helps THEIR cause).
So, last night in 8-ball league, my opponent and I lag for break. Now I'm a fairly big guy (6'1, 215 lbs, 36" inseam) so I'm never really comfortable lagging from the right side of the headspot on a barbox. I feel like I'm crowding the guy/gal beside me so I tend to "scrunch-up" somewhat. Anyway, I shoot my lag from the right side and hit it perfect speed. But I rushed it a bit from my "scrunched-up" stance and inadvertently put a little left english on the ball, just a tad, but enough to make the two lagged balls make contact and stop about 2" from the footrail and about 3" to 4" on his side of the table (he himself had put a very small amount of right english on his lag). He looked at me and asked what we're supposed to do. I told him that we lag over (as per APA rules concerning the lag). So we do, and he wins the lag. So, as I'm racking the balls, the Captain of my opponents team, who is a SL6 and a long time APA league player and a well respected man in our league, came up to me and said that the rule is that, on the lag, when a players ball crosses the center diamond and contacts the opponents ball, that the player whose ball got hit automatically wins the lag. Now I'm fairly new to APA leagues, but I have read and and re-read the rules on quite a few occasions. I had just THAT MORNING read the rules concerning the lag. All the rule states is, that if the two lagged balls make contact, then you lag over. PERIOD. I told him this and he told me his variation of the rule again as if I didn't hear it the first time. I wasn't gonna get in a pi$$ing match with him over it, and it was a moot point as his teammate had won the lag anyway, so I just basically thanked him for the info and took my seat.
Was I missing something here??? Is there a rule, or a set of General Rules that I don't know about? I had the rule book in my bag, but I won't pull it out unless someone asks me too. The rule is pretty cut-and-dried. My point is this (and I would have used this in defense of my argument if there had been one): If there was a rule saying that a lag crossing over the center line and contacting the opponents ball means automatic loss of lag, then wouldn't that render the WRITTEN rule useless. I would think so, because it's darn unlikely that two lagged balls would come in contact with each other if one of them wasn't on the wrong side of the center diamond. Any opinions here???
BTW, I shot well and won my set!!!
Maniac
Now, I'm not slammin' the APA leagues or nothing, I'm just shaking my head in awe of some of the dumba** rules that people can come with (especially when it helps THEIR cause).
So, last night in 8-ball league, my opponent and I lag for break. Now I'm a fairly big guy (6'1, 215 lbs, 36" inseam) so I'm never really comfortable lagging from the right side of the headspot on a barbox. I feel like I'm crowding the guy/gal beside me so I tend to "scrunch-up" somewhat. Anyway, I shoot my lag from the right side and hit it perfect speed. But I rushed it a bit from my "scrunched-up" stance and inadvertently put a little left english on the ball, just a tad, but enough to make the two lagged balls make contact and stop about 2" from the footrail and about 3" to 4" on his side of the table (he himself had put a very small amount of right english on his lag). He looked at me and asked what we're supposed to do. I told him that we lag over (as per APA rules concerning the lag). So we do, and he wins the lag. So, as I'm racking the balls, the Captain of my opponents team, who is a SL6 and a long time APA league player and a well respected man in our league, came up to me and said that the rule is that, on the lag, when a players ball crosses the center diamond and contacts the opponents ball, that the player whose ball got hit automatically wins the lag. Now I'm fairly new to APA leagues, but I have read and and re-read the rules on quite a few occasions. I had just THAT MORNING read the rules concerning the lag. All the rule states is, that if the two lagged balls make contact, then you lag over. PERIOD. I told him this and he told me his variation of the rule again as if I didn't hear it the first time. I wasn't gonna get in a pi$$ing match with him over it, and it was a moot point as his teammate had won the lag anyway, so I just basically thanked him for the info and took my seat.
Was I missing something here??? Is there a rule, or a set of General Rules that I don't know about? I had the rule book in my bag, but I won't pull it out unless someone asks me too. The rule is pretty cut-and-dried. My point is this (and I would have used this in defense of my argument if there had been one): If there was a rule saying that a lag crossing over the center line and contacting the opponents ball means automatic loss of lag, then wouldn't that render the WRITTEN rule useless. I would think so, because it's darn unlikely that two lagged balls would come in contact with each other if one of them wasn't on the wrong side of the center diamond. Any opinions here???
BTW, I shot well and won my set!!!
Maniac