Justin Bergman vs Tom Cousins

Ya think? I'm simply asking for people to elaborate on their picks, that's all. All of the posts on facebook I've seen about this are hilarious. Some people saying Tom won't get to 10, etc. I'm wondering if people who are so confident about either side have spent much time learning about the other. I consider them both buddies of mine, and can't wait to be there for this match!
I think it depends on how the table is breaking. if there are a lot clusters I give the advantage to Cousins, he can work thru a table with minimal cue ball movement like nobodies business. If the tables are breaking wide open I give the advantage to Bergman because he moves the cue ball so well.
 
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what rules? Cuz if it’s the lame-ass Ultimate Pool Rules, Iceberg will lose close on a technicality of the rules. Because they’re dumb. If International Rules means accepted WPA rules, which I don’t think that’s what they’re saying, then Bergman is a favorite in my opinion. But I think they’re doing those lame ass, dumb ass, stupid ass rules.

I will bet on Justin, but I ain’t holding my breath.
You haven't really been following the UPL events have you?
 
Cousins is amazing but Bergman for the long haul and control of the rock . Really one mistake by either person ...
Agreed. I think the final score is going to be within a couple games. If Bergman's break is good, he's going to be impossible to beat. He also doesn't seem to be bothered by the pressure.
 
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what rules? Cuz if it’s the lame-ass Ultimate Pool Rules, Iceberg will lose close on a technicality of the rules. Because they’re dumb. If International Rules means accepted WPA rules, which I don’t think that’s what they’re saying, then Bergman is a favorite in my opinion. But I think they’re doing those lame ass, dumb ass, stupid ass rules.

I will bet on Justin, but I ain’t holding my breath.
Who's taking bets on this?
 
Just talked to friend up there and he said its standard Ultimate rule-set with a shot clock. Using new Brunswick GCc bar boxes.
 
I hope Bergman wins- he is such a great player, especially on bar tables. I also prefer the American style of pool playing over the British- the Brits do that weird thing of dragging their pool cue around and play pool in a snooker stance. Go Bergman!
 
As an industry, one of our largest challenges has been trying to settle on a consistent set of rules. That is difficult enough when the game has several large amateur leagues that maintain their own established rule sets, while the world-standardized rules continue to evolve and often look quite different.


The confusion only increases when another organization introduces what it calls “International Rules.” Especially in today’s wildfire internet environment, Ultimate Pool regularly posts rules scenarios on Facebook that would drive many people who have played American 8-ball for decades absolutely insane.


They are entitled to play their version of the game, but it is much closer to UK 8-ball or blackball than the traditional solids-and-stripes game most American players recognize. I wish they would simply present it that way instead of using a name that suggests it is the international standard


Sorry, my response got mixed with your post…..response below




I don’t know how the league is doing in different areas. In my area I don’t think it will last. I don’t like the rules or format. And from what I see and hear from others I am not the only one who doesn’t like it. In my particular division I think we lost half the teams after the first session. Another one lost teams as well, I’m not sure of the exact percentage. I spoke with someone who gave it up from the other division and we had similar opinions. I am playing because you have to keep playing to have a shot at qualifying for nationals and the team has to keep going. We finished second in the last session and have to play this one to go to the qualifier. When you compete you try to win, so I hope we go far. When our journey ends this year at whatever stage, I won’t play it again. I don’t think I am the only one. I wish success to our league operator and I think any success for hem can only help the sport, etc…. But people will just vote on it by playing the league or not.
 
The confusion only increases when another organization introduces what it calls “International Rules.” Especially in today’s wildfire internet environment, Ultimate Pool regularly posts rules scenarios on Facebook that would drive many people who have played American 8-ball for decades absolutely insane.


They are entitled to play their version of the game, but it is much closer to UK 8-ball or blackball than the traditional solids-and-stripes game most American players recognize. I wish they would simply present it that way instead of using a name that suggests it is the international standard for all 8-ball.

I’ve lost count of the number of times I had to try to clear up confusion caused by those posts. Not just online - people I know at the pool halls were confused.
 
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