Justin Bergman

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I do not believe there are 50 people on the planet that have watched more pool video's that I have over the last 10 years. With that being said, I think the most consistent American pool player that I have watched is Justin!! The guy almost never misses. I feel it's very obvious the weakest part of his game is the break. It kills me that his backer will not let him gamble against the Pinoy's. I think he could beat most of them to be honest! He is the second best player in the country on a big table.

I wish he had backers like John Mars or Roy's Basement. I would love to see him match up with James Arenas, Ruslan, and even Eklent Kaci. I believe the only one of those matches he would be a slight underdog in would be against Ruslan.

This is a guy who has beat every top American other than Shane. Just from rumor, when Kevin Cheng was in the US a few years ago, Kevin wouldn't even play Justin in St. Louis.

Let's get this guy in more action. He is good for pool and I love watching him play. The first time I ever saw Justin play was at the Rack tournament in Memphis in 2003. He had to be 14-15 and was running racks like he was sleeping.
 
I do not believe there are 50 people on the planet that have watched more pool video's that I have over the last 10 years.
That's quite a statement. There a few guys in my area that say pretty much the same thing. They've gone and even said that I (me) have no idea how much they love this game and how much they watch.

That'd be quite a thing if they watched as much as you, or you as much as they. It's amusing to hear (or read), honestly.



With that being said, I think the most consistent American pool player that I have watched is Justin!!

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Let's get this guy in more action. He is good for pool and I love watching him play.
I like watching Justin, but he does get some heat for being a bit overly methodical much to a spectator's dismay.


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I do not believe there are 50 people on the planet that have watched more pool video's that I have over the last 10 years. With that being said, I think the most consistent American pool player that I have watched is Justin!! The guy almost never misses. I feel it's very obvious the weakest part of his game is the break. It kills me that his backer will not let him gamble against the Pinoy's. I think he could beat most of them to be honest! He is the second best player in the country on a big table.

I wish he had backers like John Mars or Roy's Basement. I would love to see him match up with James Arenas, Ruslan, and even Eklent Kaci. I believe the only one of those matches he would be a slight underdog in would be against Ruslan.

This is a guy who has beat every top American other than Shane. Just from rumor, when Kevin Cheng was in the US a few years ago, Kevin wouldn't even play Justin in St. Louis.

Let's get this guy in more action. He is good for pool and I love watching him play. The first time I ever saw Justin play was at the Rack tournament in Memphis in 2003. He had to be 14-15 and was running racks like he was sleeping.

Maybe I'm just a hater but I can't get on the Justin Bergman bandwagon. He always seems a little too scared to me. He definitely has the ability to beat anybody but I think those Filipinos have the edge when it comes to gambling nerves.

I can't remember the last time he won any big tournaments. He usually does well and then cant pull off the win. Likely a mental issue there he's battling.

My money's on Dodong all night...

I'm not sure if you're including Jason Shaw as part of this country but him and Shane are levels above Justin in my opinion. Although I also think Kevin Cheng is levels above Justin so who knows.

It's hard to compare players because everyone goes through ups and downs in their game. When two players match up, you never truly know if they're playing their best or worst at that moment.
 
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He's got some smart money behind him, if they are steering away the above mentioned players.

IMHO, the only one of those he would match up well with, is Ruslan.

The rest of Roy's Boy's, and Kaci would eat him alive.
 
There are many good players out there. Justin is seriously good. But he's certainly not the best US Player. I watch a lot of pool also and he has a lot of holes in his game.
 
spectators

JB is the man.

Funny story you guys might like. Last time I saw JB was at the US Open last year. I was out of the tournament so wanted to rail Justin. I think he was playing Radoslaw Babica. Loser's bracket match, probably somewhere around 17th place. Far enough in that you want to win, but far enough from the finals to where it's hard to see making a deep run from here, especially with that level of competition. There were tables surrounding the player's area and I pulled up a chair right up front, just behind Justin. I didn't want to bother him, just said hi and wished him a good match.

It was about 10 minutes to kick off and an older gentleman sat next to me. I tried to be polite and asked him if he played in the event or just watched, and then asked where he was from. Turns out he had driven like 8 hours to watch the event. I thought that was pretty cool.

Then it got strange. As we're talking he starts barraging me with these goofy short stories. They were all about 30 seconds long, and they all sounded like stories I'd heard a million times before. Old timer sound bites.

"I saw Mosconi play once. He played better straight pool than any of today's players. I saw him run 100 balls and his cue ball never got out of line. Just a bunch of 12" shots. Uh-huh."

"Have you ever heard of Jimmy Marino? I watched him play one time. He played a top player from out of town and ran 13 racks in a row. Best 9 ball I've seen. Uh-huh."

"I've been to Chicago once, Red Shoe Billiards. I asked the house man if he knew anyone that would play some one pocket. He said he'd play me a little and grabbed his cue. As I racked the balls everyone in the room came over and pulled up chairs. I knew right then I was in trouble. Uh-huh."

I wish I could remember the rest of them. It was non-stop. At this point the match was starting up so we needed to be quiet, shoot, we were 5 feet from the table, I could touch JB from where we were sitting. But the guy wouldn't stop talking. Just every few seconds it was like a jukebox that someone put a coin into, he's just spit out another story. "Have you ever heard of Frankie the Sailor? He came into town once and just hung out, didn't play anyone. He was just watching, see, learning who played what speed. Then a few days later he cleaned out the whole town. Uh-huh." (Just remembered that one).

It was infuriating. Didn't he see that there was a match going on? I didn't say anything to prompt a continued conversation, but it made no difference. Somehow he kept this up through most of the match.

Meanwhile Justin had his hands full. He was playing well, but the balls kept laying out funny, and he had a few fumbles that kept him from getting much of a lead. Maybe 5-4, 7-5, that kind of thing. Then it got tied up and you could tell it was anyone's game. Justin was doing a good job not getting frustrated but he wasn't getting the best rolls and it was a real grind session.

Inevitably it comes down to a hill-hill. Justin is faced with a tough kick to a ball out in space. I think he hit it but left a shot, maybe he missed the kick. Either way his opponent was running out. Until the 6 ball. Watching him line up the 6 ball with draw my spider senses started tingling and I had a feeling something bad might be about to happen. Sure enough, miscue! He hit the 6 but missed it. Unfortunately the 6 ball landed on the second diamond on the side rail and the cue ball was on the other side of the table opposite the 6, leaving the thinnest of cuts.

Justin came with something there. He cut the paint off the 6 ball and the cue ball came straight back and forth about a dozen times. When it stopped he had a tough shot on the seven as well. He made that but got quirky on the 8 ball, which lay really funny.

The 8 was in the dead middle of the table, and the 9 was right next to it, such that if you shot the 8 in the corner with topspin you could make the 9 in the side. The cueball was near the side rail with a thin cut on the 8 for that corner.

After thinking it through Justin decided to play both balls. Unfortunately they both just missed. The 8 ball hung in the corner, the 9 ball hit both tips of the side and sat in front of that pocket. But the cueball had followed through the 9 ball just enough to lay by the third diamond on the other side of the 9, hooking his opponent. What made it worse, the 8 ball was fairly deep, so a one rail kick would be scary due to the scratch potential.

His opponent decided to go with a half masse. I didn't agree with this shot by the way. I liked the jump or the kick, and I normally hate jumps and love curve shots, so that says something. But anyway, here we go, for the match. His opponent gets up, elevates, takes a few practice strokes, draws back and - a bloody cell phone from a guy right behind me goes off! Dun da-da-dun da-da-dun da-da-dun!

Did it shark the guy? I don't know. All I can say for sure is what happened. The damn cue ball successfully shot past the 9 ball, but what it failed to do was curve in any way, shape, or form. Just straight into the end rail! Foul! Needless to say he conceded the match and JB advanced another round.

I couldn't believe the behavior of the spectators. Brutal action out there.

Justin, do you remember this match? If so, did you hear any of this crap? Or do you remember it differently than I do? Will you be at Flemming's tourney this October?
Or the main Joss event in August? Let me know, we'd love to hear from you and hope you're well!
 
I, too, have long been on the Justin Bergman bandwagon. He's a rock solid all around player whose break does hold him back sometimes.

I think Justin and Billy Thorpe may be America's two best tactical players, but Justin is the best.

Justin contended for Master of the Table at the 2018 Derby City Classic and has shown a fine all around game, testament to his all around skills.

At rotation games, Shane remains America's best, but Bergman and Dechaine are 2A and 2B. If Johan repeats the mistake of omitting Bergman this year, America will go to bat without any of its top three players.

Justin is a special player.
 
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Maybe I'm just a hater but I can't get on the Justin Bergman bandwagon. He always seems a little too scared to me. He definitely has the ability to beat anybody but I think those Filipinos have the edge when it comes to gambling nerves.

I can't remember the last time he won any big tournaments. He usually does well and then cant pull off the win. Likely a mental issue there he's battling.

My money's on Dodong all night...

I'm not sure if you're including Jason Shaw as part of this country but him and Shane are levels above Justin in my opinion. Although I also think Kevin Cheng is levels above Justin so who knows.

It's hard to compare players because everyone goes through ups and downs in their game. When two players match up, you never truly know if they're playing their best or worst at that moment.

Jayson Shaw didn’t do so well three years ago with Justin Bergman...80-59 Justin at 10-ball.
....and Robo doesn’t have to like it on a 7-footer....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CY5zGrvLEm0
 
I'll have to agree with you.

Maybe I'm just a hater but I can't get on the Justin Bergman bandwagon. He always seems a little too scared to me. He definitely has the ability to beat anybody but I think those Filipinos have the edge when it comes to gambling nerves.

I can't remember the last time he won any big tournaments. He usually does well and then cant pull off the win. Likely a mental issue there he's battling.

My money's on Dodong all night...

I'm not sure if you're including Jason Shaw as part of this country but him and Shane are levels above Justin in my opinion. Although I also think Kevin Cheng is levels above Justin so who knows.

It's hard to compare players because everyone goes through ups and downs in their game. When two players match up, you never truly know if they're playing their best or worst at that moment.

I cant beat Kevin Cheng or Chung Lin, Lin has beat Shane for the Money so you know Justin has no chance and he has action with all the Pinoy's for sure.

I'm not sour that he's even the best guy for the cash in the USA?
 
It's hard to compare players because everyone goes through ups and downs in their game. When two players match up, you never truly know if they're playing their best or worst at that moment.

Some of the most intelligent words I have seen here for quite some time.

Everybody thinks that the top players play at or near their highest level all the time. The games top players get tired, feel ill, have emotional mood swings, etc. They can't possibly shoot at the top of their game day in and day out. You might get two top-tier players play races to 100 several weeks apart and the outcome may be totally different between the two matches.

On top of that, many times the lay of the table favors one guy over the next. This is often a game-changer in shorter races. We've all seen lower-tier/semi-pro players take down a top-tier pro numerous times in tournaments. Could it have been that the top-tier player wasn't at the top of his/her game for any of the above reasons? Certainly.

It's extremely hard to name the top player in the world for the very reasons mentioned. There's just way too much talent out there. That said...Justin Bergman is definitely a top-tier player.


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Justin

I have played him a few times and watched a bunch. He is absolutely not scared. Not at all. He believes he can and will beat anyone. I personally think after the break he is as good as almost anyone. I play bad, but he beats me giving up 18-4. He is a very special player. I'd like to see him play Mike D for USA #2 and then try the big dog. I'd also like to see him play a lot more one pocket. I think he could be the best at that game.
 
If Bergman was in action as much as Dodong, I think he'd have be the favorite.

The funny thing is, if he just showed-up from somewhere in Asia or Europe people would be oohing and ahhing about the new best player in the world.
 
Jayson Shaw didn’t do so well three years ago with Justin Bergman...80-59 Justin at 10-ball.
....and Robo doesn’t have to like it on a 7-footer....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CY5zGrvLEm0
That Shaw is not the same Shaw that was that was crushing fields with a level of play only a few in the world have hence his 814 fargo rate ,, and there is no game on any table he is not a under dog to Robo


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That Shaw is not the same Shaw that was that was crushing fields with a level of play only a few in the world have hence his 814 fargo rate ,, and there is no game on any table he is not a under dog to Robo


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Very true...Justin himself said that Jayson is a different player now.....
...but I liked Justin in the long set three years ago....and I think Justin could still hang with
him now....in the same format....speedy players are often not good marathoners.

I showed Justin’s match with Robo just to show he can hang with players of that speed...
....I might develop short arms and deep pockets if it came to betting against Dennis...:cool:
 
He's got some smart money behind him, if they are steering away the above mentioned players.

IMHO, the only one of those he would match up well with, is Ruslan.

The rest of Roy's Boy's, and Kaci would eat him alive.

Im pretty sure he can get a match with Ruslan any time he wants


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Very true...Justin himself said that Jayson is a different player now.....
...but I liked Justin in the long set three years ago....and I think Justin could still hang with
him now....in the same format....speedy players are often not good marathoners.

I showed Justin’s match with Robo just to show he can hang with players of that speed...
....I might develop short arms and deep pockets if it came to betting against Dennis...:cool:

I agree with the pace thing some argue long sets are the true judge of the better player Im not one of them pace of play clearly can have a affect on the match


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I do not believe there are 50 people on the planet that have watched more pool video's that I have over the last 10 years.

I only came here to say, I watch on average 1.5-2 hrs of pool a day. I watch youtube matches until I fall asleep at night in bed and I watch matches while on my treadmill for 45-60 while I workout. It's good to know we are not alone. :grin:
 
I do not believe there are 50 people on the planet that have watched more pool video's that I have over the last 10 years. With that being said, I think the most consistent American pool player that I have watched is Justin!! The guy almost never misses. I feel it's very obvious the weakest part of his game is the break. It kills me that his backer will not let him gamble against the Pinoy's. I think he could beat most of them to be honest! He is the second best player in the country on a big table.

I wish he had backers like John Mars or Roy's Basement. I would love to see him match up with James Arenas, Ruslan, and even Eklent Kaci. I believe the only one of those matches he would be a slight underdog in would be against Ruslan.

This is a guy who has beat every top American other than Shane. Just from rumor, when Kevin Cheng was in the US a few years ago, Kevin wouldn't even play Justin in St. Louis.

Let's get this guy in more action. He is good for pool and I love watching him play. The first time I ever saw Justin play was at the Rack tournament in Memphis in 2003. He had to be 14-15 and was running racks like he was sleeping.

Justin's hand-eye coordination is phenomenal but his less-than-perfect stroke mechanics sometimes catch up with him,especially under pressure. Thats what holds him back from being alpha dog in USA. That and the fact he rarely competes internationally if ever. Justin is an amazing player with a huge potential which he unfortunately decided not to fulfill for the time being, money being the main factor..
 
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Justin's hand-eye coordination is phenomenal but his less-than-perfect stroke mechanics sometimes catch up with him,especially under pressure. Thats what holds him back from being alpha dog in USA. That and the fact he rarely competes internationally if ever. Justin is an amazing player with a huge potential which he unfortunately decided not to fulfill for the time being, money being the main factor..


Totally Agree with you on that..., The man has MUCH potential. He is the only one holding him back.
 
I find it pretty humorous that there was a comment made earlier in this post that out of Dodong, Kaci and Ruslan the only person Justin could hang with would be Ruslan.

Apparently that fellow did not watch Ruslan beat Dodong 25-4 a few days ago. That was the second time in a few months Ruslan won that match.

Out of those three players, Ruslan is the last guy Justin would need to match up with.
 
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