Kamui Tips

mullyman

mullyman

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I put a Kamui on my 3C cue last night. Before I switched tips I set up a shot and did it 5 times with my Moori, switched tips then did it 5 more times with the Kamui. Verdict: Nothing changed all that much. I wasn't able to impart some magical super spin on the cue ball. I'm happy enough with the tip but I'm not seeing any differences.
MULLY
 
I had done a test with a Lepro, everest and hercules with virtually no difference. I had used 10 strokes of draw and 10 strokes of follow on each tip with a 12.5mm shaft and the cue ball ended up in the same area. Hercules was a hard, everest was medium and the Lepro was Lepro.
My custom cue came with 2 shafts and Lepros, I put the everest on one and the Herc on the other. I did miscue with lepro more while I was playing, I rarely miscue with the everest.
 
It is impossible for one leather tip to impart more spin on a ball than the other tip. What a crock of crap that is. I'm fine with this tip, but I just don't see what the big deal is.
MULLY
 
For me it is in the resilience of the tip and how it well it holds chalk. I've tried Kamui and Kamui Black and didn't care at all for them. The current Moori bubble pack Soft is the tip that works the best for me.

Martin


mullyman said:
It is impossible for one leather tip to impart more spin on a ball than the other tip. What a crock of crap that is. I'm fine with this tip, but I just don't see what the big deal is.
MULLY
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Rubber tips anyone! there is a definite difference in the way one holds chalk over another and that may be the noticeable difference in the action you get. I don't know how thick the layer of chalk would be, but adhesion would be a big factor. If you're not getting good adhesion from the tip chalk wouldn't stick. You have to chalk a hard tip before every hit. Elkmasters are chalk impregnated, maybe that's why milk dud tips are the rave right now. Maybe a tip expert can chime in.
 
Hey Mully

I think I agree but. The two things I like are the feel and most importantly no maintenance. The first "no mushroom tip" that actually is a no mushroom tip.

The Bad: There seems to be a bad spot on one of mine. I can't find it but the ball simply goes totally off course. Not a miscue. On very easy 1/2 ball hits I miss totally and sometimes on the other side. Very wierd. Throwing it in the trash. Tough decision. I may have to find another brand. Back to Tiger Prods.?

Wrote Kamui but no response.
 
mullyman said:
I put a Kamui on my 3C cue last night. Before I switched tips I set up a shot and did it 5 times with my Moori, switched tips then did it 5 more times with the Kamui. Verdict: Nothing changed all that much. I wasn't able to impart some magical super spin on the cue ball. I'm happy enough with the tip but I'm not seeing any differences.
MULLY
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You don't mention what Kamui you put on.

I can't speak for the entire Kamui line of tips, but in my 40+ years of playing, I must say that I found improved "grab" at slow speeds from the black Kamui SS tips. (That would be in contrast to Mooris which I used exclusively for about ten years.) Others that have put that specific Kamui tip on have reported the same. YMMV.

Lou Figueroa
 
I love a good triangle but there is break in time and finding a good one can take some time and mushrooming has been getting worse with the triangles I have used lately. I find that the kamui hard feels like a good broken in triangle and there is no break in time and NO mushrooming. I hate paying $18 for a tip but its only once a year. A kamui tip doesnt add or take away any spin (no matter what some will say) it just feels the same as it did 12 months after its installed.
 
Hi all,
If there is one thing I can take from my experience in billiards is that this sport is a mental sport.

What we are providing to you is a tip that has playability and consistency. We know from the other tips made that there is a struggle of consistency... This is why Kamui came to be. After playing with any brand of tip for a period of time and coming to the point of replacing the tip with "the same" tip. Well, we had a mental struggle to adjust to the new tip. This was the consistency loss we found in the other brands of tips.

The New Kamui tips VS. the older Kamui tips. You will not find a huge change of feel that it would change your game... YOU are responsible for your game to improve. What we are providing is a new Kamui that is the same tip but even more consistent than the older tip. The new tips still have all the same great virtues of the older.

New Kamui Original(brown) tips are now also humidity resistant but does not have the same elasticity as the black. We know that some players do not like a lot of spin on a ball. This tip is perfect for that player that does not need a lot of spin.

The link below is the description sell sheet of the New Kamui Tips:
New Kamui Pool Cue Tips
 
The difference I have noticed between Kamui and Moori tips are that after several hundred if not thousand shots the Moori tip would tend to become harder and sort of glaze over which led to it being scuffed up allot to get it to hold chalk. So far with the Kamui SS Black I have not had that problem at all, in fact I have not used a tool on it since I shaped it.
 
Been playing with a Moori II for last 4 years and have just switched to a Kamui S. I have found it gives loads more side maybe to much side. Having fun getting use to it but think it will be ok. I have also found that although it give more side i find it harder to draw and follow through. i think poss because tip is just a bit softer than Moori II.
I switched because Moori II seemed to keep changing in hardness and wanted more consistency, so far so good. I may try a Kamui med next. But all in all a very good tip and definitely more grip to cue ball.
 
I have 3 shafts that are very similar in weight and tip size with 3 tips installed. Medium Moori, Molavia hard and Kamui Medium (brown). All these tips play great in all aspect of the game but I did notice and most everyone that tried it that the Kamui tip didn't draw as well as the Molavia Hard and Moori Medium. My guess is that the Kamui Medium wasn't as hard as the Moori Medium and Molavia Hard. It's also important to note that each of these tip also emit a different unique sound when you hit the cue ball.

I think you'll have to tried them all and find out which tip work best for your game. They are all great playing tips.

Regards,
Duc.

contrakid said:
Been playing with a Moori II for last 4 years and have just switched to a Kamui S. I have found it gives loads more side maybe to much side. Having fun getting use to it but think it will be ok. I have also found that although it give more side i find it harder to draw and follow through. i think poss because tip is just a bit softer than Moori II.
I switched because Moori II seemed to keep changing in hardness and wanted more consistency, so far so good. I may try a Kamui med next. But all in all a very good tip and definitely more grip to cue ball.
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contrakid said:
Been playing with a Moori II for last 4 years and have just switched to a Kamui S. I have found it gives loads more side maybe to much side. Having fun getting use to it but think it will be ok. I have also found that although it give more side i find it harder to draw and follow through. i think poss because tip is just a bit softer than Moori II.
I switched because Moori II seemed to keep changing in hardness and wanted more consistency, so far so good. I may try a Kamui med next. But all in all a very good tip and definitely more grip to cue ball.
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Let me see if I'm understanding this. Your side spin increased substantially but your top and bottom didn't at all?
MULLY
 
I think the tip you used *might* be a factor. Here's the deal.

With a hard tip (Compared to other hard tips), you're probably not going to notice a great deal more grip or spin because the tip is so hard. Where you see a more dramatic effect is in the softer end (S and SS) of the spectrum. While I don't have a lot of experience with the Brown tips, I can say that the Black tips DO grab the cue ball much better than a lot of other tips that *feel* the same in regards to firmness.

I think that's the reason I like them.


The Black tips have the feedback of a firmer tip, but grip the cue ball like a soft tip.


It's like you get the best of both worlds...
 
Sorry, I just have to roll my eyes on this crap. You know, even if a tip would produce more spin, which I highly doubt, then my next question would have to be "how much spin do you need" and/or "what is the advantage to having that extra spin"? It's already a proven fact that the further you get from the center the lower the percentage of making the ball is. So, in all fairness, if the Kamui produces more spin then it's fair to say that it also reduces your chances of making balls.
MULLY


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Yes that whay i am saying. The tip almost feels rubbery to cue with so it grabs the cue ball so well i get extreme side very easily, maybe to easy! But i think where i am using a "Kamui S" it is just a bit softer than my old "Morri II" and because of this i find it harder to draw. I first tried the "Kamui SS" and found this also very very good at side but could not get any draw or follow on the cue ball. So i cut it right down in size to roughly the size i would replace a tip at and it played better for me so on this basis i ordered a "Kamui S" and replaced it after a couple of days. Have found this loads better but do still have to put a bit more action into the draw shot to get the same distance as my previous "Moori II"

I hear Kamui black tips are just a bit softer than equivalent Moori so you need to drop 1 hardness when replacing. I have a friend who has currently got a "Kamui M" on his cue so i may have to play with that and see if its worth me moving to a medium but they do play very nice and i think i will be sticking with this brand as the last 3 "Moori II" tips i have had have all been of a difference hardness.

You did not say in your post what hardness you play with, i don't think you would notice much difference between a "Moori I" and a "Kamui S" but when you are use to using a harder tip i think there is considerable difference.

Soft tips always grip the cue ball very well harder tips tend to push the cue ball through better but its very easy to miss cue if you don't have a great action. I think if you have a very good cue action you can do just as much with a harder tip but if your cue action is not as good or consistent as a top pro player then you can get away with more on a softer tip.

Hope this helps
 
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I myself prefer a harder tip. Sorry, but I don't know what hardness this tip is, it wasn't stamped, just said Kamui. I like it so far so I'm not complaining about it, just pointing out that I don't see anything so different about it that it deserves super praise. Remember also that this tip is on my 3 cushion cue. I still have Moori M on my pocket cue. I'll definitely try the Kamui on it when it comes time for a change though. I'll want a hard tip though.
MULLY
 
Let me help you a bit more...

mullyman said:
"how much spin do you need" and/or "what is the advantage to having that extra spin"? It's already a proven fact that the further you get from the center the lower the percentage of making the ball is. So, in all fairness, if the Kamui produces more spin then it's fair to say that it also reduces your chances of making balls.
MULLY
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Close, but you came to the wrong conclusion.

With a tip that gives you more spin, the CLOSER you can play to center ball (with the same effect), and therefore the tip is MORE accurate.

See how that works???
 
mullyman said:
I myself prefer a harder tip. Sorry, but I don't know what hardness this tip is, it wasn't stamped, just said Kamui. I like it so far so I'm not complaining about it, just pointing out that I don't see anything so different about it that it deserves super praise. Remember also that this tip is on my 3 cushion cue. I still have Moori M on my pocket cue. I'll definitely try the Kamui on it when it comes time for a change though. I'll want a hard tip though.
MULLY
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it's pretty hard to compete with a good broken in triangle or lepro. for a while i swore talisman tips were the best tip on the market. then i had like 4 delaminate on me so i moved on. if they don't delaminate though they'll give a broken in triangle a run for it's money! they have similar characteristics. they just hit better the more they get broken in
 
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