I only wear earbuds with music to drown out the loud rap and hip hop that is usually blaring in the pool halls.
Rap and hip hop are not music.
keilwood for suckers
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I only wear earbuds with music to drown out the loud rap and hip hop that is usually blaring in the pool halls.
Rap and hip hop are not music.
Can an admin please move this post to the boomer forum.
Willie Hoppe had a blind admirer....he said the sound of Hoppe’s hits were sweeter than anybody else.
He never heard my scratches.
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I’m glad I read this thread.....I’ve hit a few with a keilwood shaft...it felt nice to me.
I think I play with a similar shaft for one pocket...it’s a ‘68 Joss with a modified carom taper..12mm.
At 53 years old, it’s probably been dried to somewhat the consistency of keilwood....and it‘s brown.
...while I was getting terrified, it was getting torrified.
The empirical evidence is what I’ll be going with....I’ll try a few more of these shafts...probably buy a couple.
I think I play with a similar shaft for one pocket...it’s a ‘68 Joss with a modified carom taper..12mm.
At 53 years old, it’s probably been dried to somewhat the consistency of keilwood....and it‘s brown.
...while I was getting terrified, it was getting torrified.
The empirical evidence is what I’ll be going with....I’ll try a few more of these shafts...probably buy a couple.
Maybe we just figured out why many people take old one piece bar sticks and make a two piece cue out of them.
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boogieman
It don't mean a thing if it ain't got that ping.
Without sounding too woo woo I think sound also can be a trigger to help get in the zone, or at least give you one more positive thing to focus on. Sometimes that one sweet hit with that real sweet sound can start you on a real good run. I think the more one can get their senses involved the better it can be. At least if you're taking in what your senses are telling you, you are focused or at least comfortable with your surroundings.
Ivory wasn't cheap or readily available, at least not in pool ball grade. I read recently that the average tusk could only have two or three pool balls made from it. I would think ferrules would be the same, maybe a dozen or so out of a tusk. Pool was going through ivory at such a pace that a $10,000 reward was put up to find a substitute. Several nice discoveries were made before working materials were found. Ornamental grade ivory was readily available, "structural" for lack of a better word, ivory was much harder to come by.
One pool cue with ivory from end to end, ferrule, joint, and buttcap, might use all of the structural ivory in one tusk. This explains the price from quality suppliers and builders, and why so much modern ivory is unsuitable for structural components of cues.
Hu
I don’t think it woo at all. Sound is important to me at least. A part of the whole experience and when I’m hitting them well I get the feedback of sound and feel and focusing on them helps drop me into the zone.
Maybe I’ll check one of these out one day. I’ve got my eye on the torrefied adi J45 as well. One day
I hate ivory in a cue....I don‘t like the hit of the joint or the ferrule. I bought a lot of top cues in the 70s and the 80s..
...had the ivory replaced. Even as inlays it’s unreliable...too subject to temperature and humidity.
I also hate brass ferrules that snooker players like. Ivory and brass are dinosaurs from a time when modern materials hadn’t been developed much.
Smells like maple taffy or in a weird way like molasses candy.
I'm late to this party, but "more rigid" and "less (cueball) deflection" are not mutually exclusive. We've known this for quite a long time. Couple of decades. We also know today that a stiffer carbon fiber Revo still squirts/deflects the cueball very little, while it (the rigid CF shaft) moves less out of the way compared to its maple shaft, low deflection brethren.
A stiffer shaft doesn't always deflect the cueball more. Videos show this, which match the theory.
I think front and backhand grip are factors as well. I think since CF apparently provides quicker, more efficient transfer of energy, People might stroke more gingerly, thereby reducing deflection. (?)
It's hard to visualize why stiffness doesn't matter much, but one thing we can visualize is that any shaft moves the same distance sideways while in contact with the CB: the amount it rotates during contact. A more flexible shaft may move more after contact with the CB, but squirt is produced during contact, so the difference isn't how much the tip moves, but how easily. That sounds like semantics, but I think the distinction might help with understanding the subtle dynamics.
pj
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I make shafts and I shoot with them............ all the CF shafts I have shot with have deflected the cue ball more, when using left or right english, than any maple shaft........................ and I don't sell them as LD............. because I would be lying to my customers.......... please feel free to believe the lies that commercial shaft sellers tell you......................
Kim
What happens if you hold the stick rigidly so the ball has to get completely out the way?
i would think the tighter you grip it the more the CB is going to deflect. maybe not a bunch but some.
This is what happened with Iron Willie in the early tests during the Jacksonville Experiment, according to Bob Jewett.. Too rigid (abnormally rigid, nearly impossible by humans) tend to increase the contact time and squirt dramatically at even small tip offsets. They solved this problem by wrapping with bubble wrap so that the cue would be allowed to move in the robot grip. Our skin on our hands allows the cue stick to similarly move. You’d have to have rigid skin to grip so tightly to have the same effect as the death grip of a robot hand.
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20+ years we’ve been discussing the physics of this. Feel free to ask.