Kevin Varney news....
- Thread starter Varney Cues
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waiting for the manwon posses to show up and do what they do .
Varney Cues said:Hello everyone. I have a few issues I'd like to address but I'll try to be brief as possible. As I'm sure most of you have read lately there is a certain small group of members that are trying to run me off of AZ. Manwon has been bragging to others that he'll personally make it impossible for me so that my days here are numbered. He's really tried....any time my name is mentioned or when someone has one of my cues for sell, he jumps right in with his fabricated BS or even pm's potential buyers, doing his best to ruin my name. Well I have news for Manwon and his buddies....I AM NOT GOING ANYWHERE!!! I will not be dragged into a thread where he hopes to antagonize me into threatening his life, thus resulting in my getting banned from AZ. I simply will NOT, nor do I have the time, to participate in his child like foolishness. I have promised the mods that I will behave & not get involved....thats exactly what I'm going to do. Manwon's intent is clear for anyone who wants to search the history....he's attacked me from my day one here. I've never met the man nor had dealings with him so if I had to wager why...I'd guess he's just jealous that a new cuemaker showed up a few years ago and started selling cues that became high in demand. AZ is a tough go for most new cuemakers and when one becomes successful then I guess those not so popular then get upset. Like I said...its all right there in the AZ history if anyone would like to search my early days here.
Now let me try to answer a few questions that are floating out there. Just a couple of weeks ago I posted that I have stopped taking orders so as to be able to work 100% on my past due cues. Yes my pc crashed so I don't have one in my shop any longer, although I will have it correctly repaired shortly. I still will not be on AZ everyday as I'm trying to spend as much possible time working in the shop. Would you rather have me spending time here or building cues?
As for me playing in a tourney this weekend...YES I DID...and what a horrid crime that was. It was a charity event that makes money for the Haywood Co. association for retarded citizens. Its a long running annual event that I've played in for the last 10+ years....and my entry fee was paid months ago. As for selling cues there...yes I did that too....but they simply were not mine. I went to the event with a friend of mine who is a bit of a collector. I believe he sold more than 12 cues...3 of which where Varney's. I sold no ones ordered cues as Manwon & his posse would like you to believe. So if you walked by the dealer table and saw Varney's for sale or saw me showing off a cue, now you know the reason why.
I really grow tired of posting my personal & private life on this public forum. Yes my Grandmother had a heart attack last week so I was unavailable for the most part. I should not have to post personal info but in the past I have just trying to keep customers informed....only to see some members make comments that should not be allowed. So basically it
boils down to a small group doesn't care if I have a child, my wife's brother is killed, I'm in the hospital, or if my Grandmother is ill.............many believe I should NOT have a family life...they'd rather have me in the shop working 6am until 3am. Well I've done that & thats what gets you put in the hospital.
So to sum up....EVERYONE WILL GET THERE CUES....PERIOD!!! Yes as everyone knows I am running very much behind but I will indeed be caught up...and I mean sooner rather than later. I will over the next few days try to answer my emails & pm's...relax if you haven't heard from me...I will get to you. Every few days I will post pics of members delivered cues in the Gallery for all to see. And I'll try to name a few names on the short list. Everyones cues are started and many are very near completetion. I would like to thank my patient customers....you will be rewarded with an awesome cue. For others....the squeaky wheel doesn't get the grease...not in cuemaking. I try to keep the cues in order as best as possible instead of working on whomever is complaining the most....as many cuemakers do.
Below is a pic of a recently delievered cue....more pics in the Gallery. I'll also have Chenz's new Varney pics posted in the Gallery this evening too & Vinny I'll pm the tracking info shortly. Cajunbarboxplyr's cue is next & I'll have pics of it tomorrow. The short list after that is BuckeyeJim & Nibrobus. Each time I post pics I'll try to give a short update as to who is next.
Thank you to all my loyal supporters & previous customers. I sincerely apologize for falling behind but I will get this corrected shortly and all cues will be delivered. There are several hundred happy Varney owners and the list grows daily. Like I said in my previous thread....I haven't gone anywhere...just spending as much time as possible in the shop....building quality cues as fast as the wood, family, and God will allow.
Thank you!
Kevin Varney
Varney Custom Cues
edited to change to a smaller pic as per request...more pics of the cue in the Gallery section.
I AM NOT GOING ANYWHERE!!! I will not be dragged into a thread where he hopes to antagonize me into threatening his life,
Kevin, I am glad your not going to threaten my life, because that is something you do not want to do, not even in a veiled form trust me.
Kevin, only time will tell if you live up to your commitments!!!
Actions speak louder then words, and your actions speak volumes!!!!!!! I truly hope you live up to all your commitments, because I do not like seeing people get screwed. None of this would have happened if you had treated people with the respect they deserve and communicated with them, so blame no one but yourself.
Oh and by the way I have no posse, the people posting to all the threads were your customers, or others who understand that you actions were out of line. As far as the tournament go's, these posters must also have a bone to pick with you, because they posted freely.
Don't even bother to answer this post, I do not want to be responsible for any cues not being delivered, I know there is only so much time in a day!!!! I am done posting in these treads, my goals have been meet, Kevin is back and posting now time will tell the rest of the story!!!
Have a nice day Kevin!!!!!!!!!
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manwon said:I AM NOT GOING ANYWHERE!!! I will not be dragged into a thread where he hopes to antagonize me into threatening his life,
Kevin, I am glad your not going to threaten my life, because that is something you do not want to do, not even in a veiled form trust me.
Kevin, only time will tell if you live up to your commitments!!! Actions speak louder then words, and your actions speak volumes!!!!!!!
I truly hope you live up to all your commitments, because I do not like seeing people get screwed. None of this would have happened if you had treated people with the respect they deserve and communicated with them, so blame no one but yourself.
Oh and by the way I have no posse, the people posting to all the threads were your customers, or others who understand that you actions were out of line. As far as the tournament go's, these posters must also have a bone to pick with you, because they posted freely.
Have a nice day Kevin!!!!!!!!!
rofl how on cue was this post
bahahahha . maybe the ship is on the other foot taking on water my friend
I honestly don't see how this is any different from how he has acted the past few months. Disappear, give no communication, then reappear only to shake his head at us unhappy customers. Cues are near completion? Really? Again?
KV, how do you feel about promising so many people 90 days or less and not delivering? If you are truly sorry, you will offer refunds to people who want it. I really doubt you are going to do this because despite all your words about being an honorable standup individual, your actions show you really couldn't care less about customers. Oh but that's right, from the tone of your posts, you are the overworked victim of us ungrateful louts.
There are only so many times you can disappear, blame your unhappy customers as if you aren't the only one responsible for your predicament, then reappear only to post a pic of your kid or talk about how much of a family man you are (as if you are the only one), then thank god publicly, and expect people to just accept any wacky thing you do.
If you are overworked, offer refunds. Those guys get instantly off your back, allowing you to complete the work of your grateful customers. But of course I get the sense you have absolutely zero intention of ever doing that, who cares about broken contract.
KV, how do you feel about promising so many people 90 days or less and not delivering? If you are truly sorry, you will offer refunds to people who want it. I really doubt you are going to do this because despite all your words about being an honorable standup individual, your actions show you really couldn't care less about customers. Oh but that's right, from the tone of your posts, you are the overworked victim of us ungrateful louts.
There are only so many times you can disappear, blame your unhappy customers as if you aren't the only one responsible for your predicament, then reappear only to post a pic of your kid or talk about how much of a family man you are (as if you are the only one), then thank god publicly, and expect people to just accept any wacky thing you do.
If you are overworked, offer refunds. Those guys get instantly off your back, allowing you to complete the work of your grateful customers. But of course I get the sense you have absolutely zero intention of ever doing that, who cares about broken contract.
ericdraven said:rofl how on cue was this post
What does rofl mean?
everything manwon said was right on point. if he'd stayed in contact with his customers none of what was said would have been said. and when you make your only point of contact a public forum ,or some guy in another state, you're problems with your customers become public.
as for the ship sinking or being on the other foot ot what ever you'd like to call it that'll all be clear when the orders are complete
ericdraven said:rofl how on cue was this post
Eric, you changed your Avatar, not surprising!!!!!!! Like I said above Eric actions speak louder then words and the only thing that we have here today is words. So dry your feet off, and remember to drink your MILK!!!!!!!!
LMFAOHave a good day!!!!!
The Milk Man
Rocket354 said:
no to mentin that you said it would be 90 days knowing you were so far behind there was no way it was going to only be 90 days. the cats out of the bag bro. be real
manchild and his posse appear in yet another varney thread to safely take us where no man has been before, to right the wrongs , for the common people and save everyone from the dark side , to restore hope to the galaxy for all man kind ( super man music playing in background ) ROFLMAO . like irish said unless you got a cue on order or waiting then this thread does not apply to you . manwon i had no idea this forum voted you the president of rehashed threads and to post when nothing here applies too you except your personal vendetta against kevin . booyah !!!
manwon said:I AM NOT GOING ANYWHERE!!! I will not be dragged into a thread where he hopes to antagonize me into threatening his life,
Kevin, I am glad your not going to threaten my life, because that is something you do not want to do, not even in a veiled form trust me.
Kevin, only time will tell if you live up to your commitments!!!
I truly hope you live up to all your commitments, because I do not like seeing people get screwed. None of this would have happened if you had treated people with the respect they deserve and communicated with them, so blame no one but yourself.
Oh and by the way I have no posse, the people posting to all the threads were your customers, or others who understand that you actions were out of line. As far as the tournament go's, these posters must also have a bone to pick with you, because they posted freely.
Have a nice day Kevin!!!!!!!!!
KV, could you pinpoint the point in that thread where manwon antagonized you into threatening his life? I've read the whole thing and never saw anything like that (I could be wrong or skimmed something who knows).
Because otherwise, the reason you feel "antagonized into threatening his life" is because of YOU, sir, as YOU are the type of person who, when there's conflict with another, FEEL LIKE THREATENING THAT PERSON'S LIFE. It's your perceptions man, all in your head. But thanks for, even in your defense statement, showing what type of person you really are.
Be Well And Prosper
Kevin,
I am glad that you are well and I'm sorry that you were knocked out of that tournament prematurely.
I understand how unforseen things in life can sometimes get in the way of previous commitments and I have every confidence that you will prevail in your endeavors.
With that said, would you mind making me a Free 19oz. Varney playing cue and getting it out to me by my birthday Sept. 12th ?
thanks in advance,
Doug
( I'm thinking about resuming pool playing )
Kevin,
I am glad that you are well and I'm sorry that you were knocked out of that tournament prematurely.
I understand how unforseen things in life can sometimes get in the way of previous commitments and I have every confidence that you will prevail in your endeavors.
With that said, would you mind making me a Free 19oz. Varney playing cue and getting it out to me by my birthday Sept. 12th ?
thanks in advance,
Doug
( I'm thinking about resuming pool playing )
pharaoh68
Banned
cajunbarboxplyr said:
Cajun,
No one ever doubted your ridiculous loyalty. In fact, we laughed at it. A lot!!! What you and some of these half-wits here seem to be missing is that none of these threads were about Kevin Varney and his product being good or bad. They were about Kevin Varney taking people's money, promising them a delivery date, letting that date come and go, never giving them updates, and not responding to inquiries.
Now I gotta ask you Cajun. Do you really consider that a good business practice??? I mean, I've had my gripes with Kev in the past. I like to think that we've both moved on from that. But as far as this matter goes, its NOT about his product but how he goes about handling the business of selling his product.
If you can't see that, then you really are BLIND. Do yourself a favor. Stop talking. The more input you have in these threads, the more foolish you look.
ericdraven said:
Wait. I don't get it. First you appeared to be one of those fools who displays a ridiculous, undying blind faith in a man whos actions were, to say the least, questionable. Then, by the end of the thread, you appeared to have jumped ship.
Now that the man himself has spoken, you're back on the bandwagon?!?!
Make up your mind eric. And see my last sentence directed to cajun. The same applies to you.
pharaoh68 said:
nobody jumped ship even me , i got life outside the internet and do not post 24/7 if not being online all the time to respond to dumb remarks then i guess i jumped ship lol (rolley eyes )
Rocket354 said:
It is actually ok, I do not mind veiled threats by anyone. Being in the Military for 23 years and having vacations in the Middle East, South and Central America, Africa, Asia and other Hot Vacation spots threats are meaningless to me. Only actions speak louder then words, and I do not think Kevin meant anything by his words on this or any other subject at hand.
Have a great day!!!
I know you have things to do but please take a second to answer this question. IT IS A YES OR NO QUESTION.ericdraven said:
Do you do business the same way that Varney has done it?
I REPEAT - ALL I NEED IS A SIMPLE YES OR NO, NOTHING MORE AND NOTHING LESS (maybe some periods after the yes or no to make it long enough).
BVal
Called me biased because I know the man but I wouldn't give no refund. I build custom furniture and half up front to help cover materials is standard. If someone backs out or doesn't want to wait then I give no refund either. That helps cover my time & material. Behind is not the beginning of trying to describe my own calander.Rocket354 said:
I've been to his shop lots of times as I too am waiting on a cue. Worried? Not the least. I've seen all the cues hes working on and how much he works. I own several and know the quality. I will wait.
He's a good guy and I call him my friend too. I just read where he's no longer taking orders to work only on already started cues and I applaude that decesion.
Give the guy a break and allow him to show he's shipping cues. I've seen my wood and while the wait is tough I know for sure its worth it.
Mark <<<<<< no hater posse connections!
The biggest problem is most of these guys have given Kevin numerous breaks and have had promises broken over and over. You are in a different situation than these other people. It is MUCH different when you can stop by his shop and look at stuff.No Illusions said:
BVal