Very good points you make here (and at your previous post), all this is true, however "split parallel" method seems to work fine in other cases by approaching CB center (Grady's systems)..
Thank you!
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Very good points you make here (and at your previous post), all this is true, however "split parallel" method seems to work fine in other cases by approaching CB center (Grady's systems)..
Thank you!
Thanks again!
How can I put it more specifically?
Let's take again the example in the second video at 4:30. We easily estimate here how to get to middle pocket from 4.8, that's fine.
The question is: how do we estimate rail target in order to reach from 4.8 not the middle pocket but the diamonds below and above it?...
I tried to find a way, tried to establish a reference line first and use split parallel or distance compensation (like when you kick from 9-first diamond at short cushion to the corner and you aim at 4.5+0.25 at the opposite long cushion).
Tried to establish a way to calculate how to get from short cushion origin to diamond 6 for example (2 diamonds down from the middle pocket), no reference line seems to work (to the opposite 4,3 and 2 diamonds respectively)...
Same problem appears in kicking from short cushion to the diamonds at the opposite short cushion.
I really appreciate everybody's time here, thank you!
Again, you can use the visual method illustrated here: point in NV D.13 illustrating the visual kick-shot aiming system. This system works for almost any situation. The video demonstrates targeting a ball in the middle of the table, but you could also be targeting a pocket or any point along a rail. No math or diamond counting is required. You just move the tip until the projected distances look equal. I hope that makes sense.
Regards,
Dave
Not exactly what I'm looking for but it's always helpful to watch any realtive systematic approach.
Thanks a lot eveyone for your time!
Petros
Thanks a lot eveyone for your time!
Petros
count how many diamonds away from cue ball you want to hit
divide by 2
hit that spot
no english rolling cue ball
for example
cue ball in the corner
you want to hit a ball one diamond above the side pocket
ie 5 diamonds away
aim 2 1/2 diamonds from corner pocket on opposite long rail
does that help??
divide by 2
hit that spot
no english rolling cue ball
for example
cue ball in the corner
you want to hit a ball one diamond above the side pocket
ie 5 diamonds away
aim 2 1/2 diamonds from corner pocket on opposite long rail
does that help??
sid system for short rail to long rail
http://www.poolstudent.com/2010/01/22/system-sid-1-by-scott-rohleder/
btw scott is a poster here
thanks scott
http://www.poolstudent.com/2010/01/22/system-sid-1-by-scott-rohleder/
btw scott is a poster here
thanks scott
Not the one I'm looking for.
Taking those diagrams as example, I'm looking for a system about kicking from short cushion (1 - 3 area) to opposite short cushion (10 - 40 area) and side rail (1.0 - 5.0 area), not kicking into the pockets and not by using any spot outside the table.
Thanks!
Taking those diagrams as example, I'm looking for a system about kicking from short cushion (1 - 3 area) to opposite short cushion (10 - 40 area) and side rail (1.0 - 5.0 area), not kicking into the pockets and not by using any spot outside the table.
Thanks!
do you consider the diamonds "outside the table"?????
sid system will get you to hit the spots you are looking for if i understsand you correctly
No, I only wrote I'm looking for a system that doesn't include consideration of any spot outside table.
I'm looking for a system of one rail kicks to various diamonds at opposite short or close by side rail by kicking to the side rail which has no number markings in those diagrams, sorry if I wasn't clear enough on this.
I'm looking for a system of one rail kicks to various diamonds at opposite short or close by side rail by kicking to the side rail which has no number markings in those diagrams, sorry if I wasn't clear enough on this.
For eg how do you get from area 1 - 3 to various diamonds at area 10- 40 and area 1.0 - 5.0 besides pockets. There are systems to get to the pockets one rail (corner or middle) but there is no similar system (taking into consideration actual diamonds at short origin rail and no double-distance or outside table spots) for what I'm looking for, none as far as I'm concerned.
Anyone that might know a system for that (no side english, just perfect rolling CB) please share it.
Thanks again for your replies.
Anyone that might know a system for that (no side english, just perfect rolling CB) please share it.
Thanks again for your replies.
Unfortunately it's not. Thanks for your time, I really appreciate it as well as everyone's who tried to help.
Hi Petros;
I'm joining the party late so I am not sure exactly what was covered so far but, since I am a graduate of the H.A.M.B. (hit a million balls) school, or more accurate to this thread, K.A.M.B., :smile:, I am not able to give you direct advice on aiming for these shots as a system.
However, I have looked at some kicking 'systems' and I will say that the one that made the most sense to me, hands down, was Little Joe Villalpando's "clock system". His is an easy, straight-forward system that will get you making good hits and with the right amount of repetition and practice, you can fine tune for even more accuracy.
It's a beautiful thing going from simply making a good hit to either potting the ball or kicking safe just as you intended.
dr. dave also is a wealth on knowledge.
good luck with your quest.
burn your jump cue! just kidding, I have one in my bag for when the spirit moves me.
best,
brian kc
Unfortunately it's the pay pal problem again, I can't use it (long story, I once made the mistake of selling a cue to another az member and they simply made it impossible..).
I'm only looking for a system about this specific situation (one rail from short to opposite short or same side long rails for all diamonds, no pockets) without the use of extended diamonds or any other method of spots outside table.
Thanks for your input!
I'm only looking for a system about this specific situation (one rail from short to opposite short or same side long rails for all diamonds, no pockets) without the use of extended diamonds or any other method of spots outside table.
Thanks for your input!
The Sid system is what you are looking for. It doesn't just go to pockets, it is to hit balls along the rail in a one rail no English kick. Search for Sid Banners kicking system. As long as you can remember diamond numbers and are able to do basic math, it's pretty accurate.
Chuck
Chuck
Dr Dave's diagram is good. Here is another way of looking at it, sorry for the quick sketch
It's pretty basic, you just have to remember the diamond numbers.
To note, it also works across the short table, I like to change the numbers on the starting rail and contact rail though. Short table, the starting rail diamonds are in 2's 2,4,6 etc, the contact numbers are in 20's 20,40,60 etc
Chuck
It's pretty basic, you just have to remember the diamond numbers.
To note, it also works across the short table, I like to change the numbers on the starting rail and contact rail though. Short table, the starting rail diamonds are in 2's 2,4,6 etc, the contact numbers are in 20's 20,40,60 etc
Chuck
Attachments
Not sure exactly what you are looking for, but check out my website at mypoolblog.com. I have all of my original articles on kicking systems hosted here now, along with other information and drills that I'm slowly adding. All free, look under the Pool Lessons and Articles link and look at Instructional articles.
I show 8 - 10 ways to kick a ball 1 rail, all based on various geometric systems, as well as 2 in depth articles on System Sid for kicking from end rail to a spot on the long rail using no english. There are many other systems I know from playing 3 cushion, and not all are applicable directly to pool, but eventually I will find the time to diagram and publish them on the site as well.
Scott
I show 8 - 10 ways to kick a ball 1 rail, all based on various geometric systems, as well as 2 in depth articles on System Sid for kicking from end rail to a spot on the long rail using no english. There are many other systems I know from playing 3 cushion, and not all are applicable directly to pool, but eventually I will find the time to diagram and publish them on the site as well.
Scott
Unless I am completely misunderstanding you, the Zero-X video is for you. Well worth the less than $10.