Kim Jones First Black Woman to Play in World Championship

It is noteworthy.

I think it is noteworthy of any first accomplishment. Some more than others, but for any one to spend time posting that this is of little significance, the fact that this is a first for a Black or African American female, perhaps is guilty of the same hyperbole. I happen to notice things like this. In this country, there are many areas where these sorts of achievements have come rather later that one would expect, and it is news. I think one makes a good point if you're talking about the 5th or 6th, but make no mistake, if she wins the thing, this will be newsworthy to me as well. And by the way, think how noteworthy it would be if this were the first White, or Anglo Saxon female to make the event...

I know this is not the NPR section, but I do not agree that in pool the only thing that matters is what happens on the table between the sticks, balls, and pockets. I agree that there is a lot of compromise in the pool room, but even in the best of cases, race still matters, and in my opinion, for the rest of my life, it always will. Those that contend that race should not be a factor, overlook the struggle that all blacks face in every field of human endeavor. Again, race-relations have improved, and every human has their own demons to overcome, but consider the following for a moment: If you are a white man/woman, imagine playing pool on the other side of town in a predominantly Black joint, or Mexican joint, or Asian joint. Now, consider where the best players play, and the make-up of most of these rooms in America, and who these players are. If that's not enough, consider working in a predominately x environment, and add some occasional hostility for good measure etc...

In almost every field of your choosing, imagine doing it as the minority. There are few places that Kim Jones can go and not recognize herself in this context. Talk about sharking. This is the hand that she has been dealt and I have no doubt that she is happy with the results, but all things considered, I am compelled to say "Well Done Kim Jones".
 
Pool players are pool players...Black white green or whatever..But since u started this thread there was another african chick that played like 10 years ago that played better than 95 percent of these woman now days..Im gonna try to find her...But she was a hell of a pool player period but u dont hear a single thing about her..Top femal eplayer for sure..Now ladies, notice im stickin up for women's billiards and I will be accepting all women phone numbers in my inbox..Thank your David Parker...
 
Pool players are pool players...Black white green or whatever..But since u started this thread there was another african chick that played like 10 years ago that played better than 95 percent of these woman now days..Im gonna try to find her...But she was a hell of a pool player period but u dont hear a single thing about her..Top femal eplayer for sure..Now ladies, notice im stickin up for women's billiards and I will be accepting all women phone numbers in my inbox..Thank your David Parker...

You're hysterical, David. And thanks for the drink in Vegas my first night. I'll blame it all on you. :thumbup:
 
The article was not inteded to state that Kim Jones is the first ever black woman to compete at pool.
However, it states and is factual that Kim Jones will always be the FIRST black woman to compete in the FIRST women's world ten ball championships.
Congratulations to Kim and Good luck!
 
Pool players are pool players...Black white green or whatever..But since u started this thread there was another african chick that played like 10 years ago that played better than 95 percent of these woman now days..Im gonna try to find her...But she was a hell of a pool player period but u dont hear a single thing about her..Top femal eplayer for sure..Now ladies, notice im stickin up for women's billiards and I will be accepting all women phone numbers in my inbox..Thank your David Parker...

I think you are referring to Pam Bell...who played jam up when she was around.
 
The article was not inteded to state that Kim Jones is the first ever black woman to compete at pool.
However, it states and is factual that Kim Jones will always be the FIRST black woman to compete in the FIRST women's world ten ball championships.
Congratulations to Kim and Good luck!

It does say that, but it also says in the middle somewhere that she's the first African-American to compete for a world title in billiards ever (or something like that).

Does anyone know for sure that that part's true?

Edit: Uh-oh, looks like Cliff Joyner came in second in the World 10-Ball Championships...see here
 
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The article was not inteded to state that Kim Jones is the first ever black woman to compete at pool.
However, it states and is factual that Kim Jones will always be the FIRST black woman to compete in the FIRST women's world ten ball championships.
Congratulations to Kim and Good luck!

Actually, it states that she is the first black woman to ever compete in any World Championships period. It does not specify the 10-ball event. Not that it really matters...but it is a claim that I doubt has been verified as fact.

In any case, congrats to Kim....I hope she does well. And DP should be commended for putting this event together. Another World Championship for female players is a good thing...no matter how you slice it :D
 
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Actually, it states that she is the first black woman to ever compete in any World Championships period. It does not specify the 10-ball event. Not that it really matters...but it is a claim that I doubt has been verified as fact.

In any case, congrats to Kim....I hope she does well. And DP should be commended for putting this event together. Another World Championship for female players is a good thing...no matter how you slice it :D

Agreed...mis-typed/misunderstood on my part.
 
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It does say that, but it also says in the middle somewhere that she's the first African-American to compete for a world title in billiards ever (or something like that).

Does anyone know for sure that that part's true?

Edit: Uh-oh, looks like Cliff Joyner came in second in the World 10-Ball Championships...see here

I agree, I mis-typed what I said in accordance with the article.
I have no clue if what they are saying is true or not as I have only been playing pool a little under 10 years. :D
That's where I will stick with m statement....LOL
Cliff Joyner is male.....they are claiming Kim will be the 1st black woman to compete at a world championship.
 
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Kim Jones, the first African American ever to compete for a World Championship in Billiards!

I wasn't saying anything about what you wrote, Dragon81, just what the OP stated. :)

It falsely claims that she's the first African-American ever to compete for a World Championship in Billiards, not that I really care...I was just curious. :)

Link to article about Cliff Joyner here.
 
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I wasn't saying anything about what you wrote, Dragon81, just what the OP stated. :)

It falsely claims that she's the first African-American ever to compete for a World Championship in Billiards, not that I really care...I was just curious. :)

LOL-ok, ok.....they say multiple different things....my mistake! :)
 
You're hysterical, David. And thanks for the drink in Vegas my first night. I'll blame it all on you. :thumbup:

Expensive ass crown and cokes..15.75 for doubles until of course i found out I could carry a bottle witch I spilled all over my self..Your welcome though..
Thanks for escorting me to the restroom..Hahahaha :thumbup:
 
The real reason that this thread has stretched is that people are kicking a post by DP News.

The fact that Kim Jones is in it is "mostly" irrelevant - the fact that DP News made some statements in it that could / can and have been picked apart... is.

Please lets just separate the issues and the weight of public opinion here :

- I'm very sure that everybody on this thread wishes Kim all the very best in this tournament, regardless of her colour / heratige.

- I'm sure that the statements made in the DP News post highlighting statistics surrounding Kim's inclusion in this event, has provided ammunition to members who can spot ambiguity and / or want to outline sensationalist phrases from DP / Charlie Williams' org.

Considering the already HOT active thread on this forum containing peoples opinions on Charlie / DP... any post from either of them will get picked to shreds.

All I'm saying is - we all wish Kim well and every success in playing the sport of pool. As for DP / Charlie, how she was picked etc, people can and certainly will express their opinion.

Kim hasn't done anything wrong apart from play pool like all of us.
I don't know Charlie or any DP rep personally - my main frame of reference on both come from this forum.

Can we please be mindful of our amazing community here and support the player first; after that - let the chicken bones fall where they may with regards to any other issue ?

Peace out.
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I wasn't saying anything about what you wrote, Dragon81, just what the OP stated. :)

It falsely claims that she's the first African-American ever to compete for a World Championship in Billiards, not that I really care...I was just curious. :)

Link to article about Cliff Joyner here.

Cliff wasn't the first African-American to compete for a World championship. Don't forget that Cisero Murphy won a world championship in the 1960's. Also, Earl Herring came a solid fourth in a world straight pool championship in the late 1970's.

As for the women, I'm thinking that the claim that Kim is the first Black Woman to compete in a world championship is valid unless the Women's Junior World Championships are included in the discussion.

To my recollection, the most noteworthy titles won by a non-junior African-American woman were the two BCA National 8–BALL Championships won in the Women's Masters Division by Pam Bell of Wisconsin, but they were national, not world championships.

Wishing Kim the best of luck.
 
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Cliff wasn't the first African-American to compete for a World championship. Don't forget that Cisero Murphy won a world championship in the 1960's. Also, Earl Herring came a solid fourth in a world straight pool championship in the late 1970's.

As for the women, I'm thinking that the claim that Kim is the first Black Woman to compete in a world championship is valid unless the Women's Junior World Championships are included in the discussion.

To my recollection, the most noteworthy titles won by an African-American woman were the two BCA National 8–BALL Championships won in the Women's Masters Division by Pam Bell of Wisconsin, but they were national, not world championships.

Wishing Kim the best of luck.

If you include juniors (and I don't see why not...) then Mary Rankin played & won in Germany a couple of years ago at a World Championships. She's just one that popped up in my mind . There could well be many more.
 
If you include juniors (and I don't see why not...) then Mary Rankin played & won in Germany a couple of years ago at a World Championships. She's just one that popped up in my mind . There could well be many more.

Yes, that's who I thought of, too. That's why I noted that I only agreed with the claim if the Women's Junior World Championships were omitted form the discussion.
 
Yes, that's who I thought of, too. That's why I noted that I only agreed with the claim if the Women's Junior World Championships were omitted form the discussion.

Too be fair, it would be UNFAIR to rule that tourney out.

Not only was it one hell of a field (talent-wise), but she qualified, she won it and she got the title of World Champion.

If you win the 9 ball worlds - you're a world champ, if you win the 10 ball worlds - you're a world champ, if you win the straight or 8 ball worlds - you're a world champ. The discipline makes no difference to you being a world champ, and sex or age shouldn't either.
 
Agreed 100%. Until this thread, I never would've known this "statistic". To me there's no difference between humans that are different colors/races. We're all human and distinguishing someone by their race is taking steps backwards, IMO.

I think Dragon Promotions is trying to make pool an International Sport and highlighting the different ethnic backgrounds of all of their players.

I don't see the problem with pointing out the diversity in our sport regardless of the entity doing it.

I am going to play in the Gem City Classic in Atlanta as a Croatian-American-Jarhead. :D

JoeyA
 
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