Pushout said:
That's correct!
Kim vs. Morro
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That's correct!
Jimmy M. said:
I haven't seen Hutch since he & Pam went to Las Vegas many years ago. I heard they started a family and he was working at one of the casinos.
Keith's brother Mark used to play with us at the Billiard Palace on Bertha and usually did ok. I think he played in the big games at Hard Times a time or two when he had a real good streak going at the poker room, but he wasn't a regular in those games. We played $5 a point for years until Hard Times opened and Morro was the one who started getting it jacked up. John Henderson
Cliff played a fair amount of pool.
Back in the early 80's, I would have taken him over any pool player on earth, as long as the sets were long and the stakes were high.
Cliff could never get motivated playing for small stakes after his snooker career took off.
Back in the early 80's, I would have taken him over any pool player on earth, as long as the sets were long and the stakes were high.
Cliff could never get motivated playing for small stakes after his snooker career took off.
smashmouth said:
LOL. Except for one thing. He couldn't beat his road partner Denny. I don't care if they played low, high, long or short. Of course by the 80's Denny had fallen into acute alcoholism.
like I said, I, personally would bet on Cliff
I'm not sure what type of action he had with Denny over the years, I'll ask him about that.
Obviously I hold Cliff in very high regard, people overlook what he accomplished s, despite putting in very limited practice and without the benefit of a strong field to learn from. To this day, there's still less than only 10 guys in snooker to ever win the world's and hold the number 1 ranking and they're all from the UK playing umpteen hours a day since birth
I don't think he could have taken the best pool world beaters in a tourney, no way, but I've heard of world beaters turning him down when he started throwing around his cash, and he still has a standing offer to play any non pro for any amount, as I've mentioned before. and he's pushing 60
You were fortunate to see him play in his prime, it was a limited period as the coke got to him and snooker's governing body didn't do him any favours by suspending him and treating him like crap, it was just the excuse they needed to get back at the non Brit
I'm not sure what type of action he had with Denny over the years, I'll ask him about that.
Obviously I hold Cliff in very high regard, people overlook what he accomplished s, despite putting in very limited practice and without the benefit of a strong field to learn from. To this day, there's still less than only 10 guys in snooker to ever win the world's and hold the number 1 ranking and they're all from the UK playing umpteen hours a day since birth
I don't think he could have taken the best pool world beaters in a tourney, no way, but I've heard of world beaters turning him down when he started throwing around his cash, and he still has a standing offer to play any non pro for any amount, as I've mentioned before. and he's pushing 60
You were fortunate to see him play in his prime, it was a limited period as the coke got to him and snooker's governing body didn't do him any favours by suspending him and treating him like crap, it was just the excuse they needed to get back at the non Brit
btw, I'm not trying to give the impression that we're friends or anything
because we're not
I just take lessons from him occassionally when i have some extra cash, more for his stories than anything else
because we're not
I just take lessons from him occassionally when i have some extra cash, more for his stories than anything else
smashmouth said:
Tell him someone remembers when he roasted the Pay Ball game in Bellflower, Cal. many, many years ago. And beat all the top players doing it.
I think they were playing 20 and 40 back then, pretty serious money. You can win thousands. And he did.
That's $20 on the 2,3,4,5 & 6 balls, and $40 on the 7. And usually they played runouts pay double. If you make all the balls, it adds up to $140 and the game was normally four and five handed.
will do, I'm sure that will bring a smile to his face
There used to be a payball game years ago at Cochrans in San Francisco that had a waiting list to get into the game. Sometimes you would have to wait a day before your name came up. One day I was in the game that was for $10 AND $20 when this kid's turn came up to get into the game. I remember Phillipino Gene sayin to me that when this kid makes two balls in a row he was getting out. I sized this kid up and thought nothing of it. Well when this kid warmed into the game I couldn't believe what I was seeing. Gene got out and I became a believer. I found out his name was Cliff from Canada. I felt like I was on a 6 x 12 snooker table and he was on a bar table. I should have reliazed that he would be good because he had a couple of old gentelmen backing him. This was in the late sixties.
There used to be a payball game years ago at Cochrans in San Francisco that had a waiting list to get into the game. Sometimes you would have to wait a day before your name came up. One day I was in the game that was for $10 AND $20 when this kid's turn came up to get into the game. I remember Phillipino Gene sayin to me that when this kid makes two balls in a row he was getting out. I sized this kid up and thought nothing of it. Well when this kid warmed into the game I couldn't believe what I was seeing. Gene got out and I became a believer. I found out his name was Cliff from Canada. I felt like I was on a 6 x 12 snooker table and he was on a bar table. I should have reliazed that he would be good because he had a couple of old gentelmen backing him. This was in the late sixties.
dabarbr said:
About the same time he came down to LA for the Pay Ball game here. He was about 20 or so, skinny and had long hair. He looked like a young hippie.