runingman said:
Put me on your list too bugs. I would like to give your shaft a try.
Laminated shafts
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Put me on your list too bugs. I would like to give your shaft a try.
True radial? Every piece of wood that is on the outside radius should be tapered in thickness so that a cross section of the shaft looks like an 8 or 10 slice piece of pizza. In other words every piece of wood on the outside needs to continue and meet at the center.
Personally, as an old guy, I've never found anything wrong with sugar maple. Up through the 1990's that was what there was and it is still available in great quality. After it has been around for 5 or more years it is extremely stable.
Anything that is glued together should remain straight.
To each his own.
Personally, as an old guy, I've never found anything wrong with sugar maple. Up through the 1990's that was what there was and it is still available in great quality. After it has been around for 5 or more years it is extremely stable.
Anything that is glued together should remain straight.
To each his own.
Kelly_Guy said:
Ah yes, let's call a bug a bug.
I doubt my recollection is any better than yours, but perhaps my
bluntness is more 'radial'
The bug refered to a certain Indiana based cue lathe co, who shall remain
un-named, as theives...because they wanted to get
paid for a part that he broke. This on a world wide public forum.
As for your question on profit, I've bought and whacked a lot of
hard Maple in the last 30 years. My more than just a little educated
guess:
Gross profit<material costs vs sale price> about Ten Thousand Per Cent.
For now, I'll pass on the shafts, I need to save up for the
Language Skills seminars that I am sure are just around the corner.
After all, don't we all need a little redirection
Paul Dayton said:
That from Dominiak looks radial to me.
JoeyInCali said:
Nice pic Joey. I have shot with a Dominiak. It wasn't quite the feel I prefer, but the splices were very clean both in the butt and shaft. It looks like there was some very good efforts to position the pieces so the grain lines eminate out from the center.
Kelly
shotmaker said:At $50 an oversized dowel. They must be really super.i saw your post on how do I make a ferrule. Makes me wonder about the workmanship on these dowels
I never poseted a topic on "how to make ferrules" as I doubt any cue maker makes ther own material. They may refine the product made by plastic companies. I wanted advise on how to install meaning thread or not to thread.
Kelly_Guy said:
Kelly,
a 4x 8 sheet yealds 187 9/16x 9/16 squares. This yeilds 46 shafts with 3 left over which I also use for ferrule material. the cost of the sheet plus mailing is $1850 and some change. You do the math. the wood alone cost $40 bucks. now figure in glue, electricity, sandpaper, and time and I am actually losing money. I have seen this same shaft sell for $175 bucks completely finished. Yes, it does have a taper. The one im sending out Monday is .650 at the tip end and .900 at the joint end as he wants to put the final taper on it. I dont need anyones approval on anything. I have a new hobby and I am trying to meet people who share the same interest. As I said before I make a good living do other things to those who want to bring up the past. REMEMBER!
pdcue said:
Lets not rehash old memories! While that said company in my opinion is not the leader in the billiard industry they do have quality products and superior customer service. If you read their mission statement this is what there goal is. I certainly believe that they have acheived this. don't you? Before you start casting stones look in you own closet. I have asked the said company for fogiveness and to my knowledge I have received it. Because of my actions I have jeoperdized a potential relationship with a quality cuemaker right here in my own back yard. For that I will always carry a burden of greif and regret. One thing is certain, and that is this, I don't owe you or anybody else an explanation! $10 bucks a blank profit margin is respectfull considering Im a wannabe!
runingman said:
So would I. A reply to my PM of three days ago would be appreciated, Bubsbug!!!
Bob Flynn
Denali Pool Cues
denalicues@ca.rr.com
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My long-term memory doesn't go that far.bandido said:
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Paul Dayton said:
But those guys didn't play with maces either. Not going one way or the other on the performance debate but I don't think it's really fair to proclaim that sometime between 1910 and 1975 the evolution of pool cues reached it's pinnacle. It could very well be that those guys of that era would have turned in even greater performances had they better equipment. Who knows.
Ronnie O'Sullivan uses ash so why aren't we using ash? Torbjorn Blohmdahl and Raymond Cuelemans use tiny tips on straight tapered shafts so why aren't we using that style of construction?
The truth is that know one knows what the absolute best way to construct a pool cue is. Almost every accomplished cuemaker has their idea of what that is and almost every accomplished player has their idea of what works best for them.
The whole idea of laminated shafts has been around for over 100 years. But it wasn't until Predator became successful at marketing them that anyone started really paying attention to whether they work or not.
If it's all hype, the why do you throw out 100 of 440 shafts? I know why Bill Stroud throws away most of the shaft wood he gets and it's performance first. That's why his shafts cost $250 each. Why do you measure deflection if it's all hype?
This does remind me of a quote from either the Blue Book or the Billiard Encyclopedia; the story goes that George Balabushka was watching a tournament and someone was playing with a Paradise and the Paradise was making some clearly audible noise each time it struck a ball. George supposedly said, 'rodden vood, rodden vood'. Which was an indication of how careful he was in his wood selection.
I'll agree with you Paul about the fact that Mosconi and Co. played with one piece maple shafts. I'll submit however that their cues were as finely tuned as they could possibly be in their day and that this type of performance is exactly what the makers of laminated shafts are attempting to standardize.