Last Pocket 8 Ball rules and moves?
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With both players agreeing that the eight ball is trapped in a pocket you can three or more rail kick at it. Rails next to the eight ball pocket are not counted as in a biiliards game. Another way is to simply spot the eight, but again, the players can talk about it.
the 8 on the break was also a win for rod.huge spot.tommie did out run the nuts.at the utah open,same game and rod was the winner.at the open tommie was a lot rusty,had not been playing,tried to run out every game.made mistakes with the big ball.last time tommie played smart.made rod beat him.rod can't run out like he use to.theres people in utah who will play the game if they get the spot rod got for a lot of money.with the small cue ball.real tough game with the option.if anyone wants to give the breaks,8 on the break wins,option on the last ball and either cue ball,call bernie devlin-801 643 3064,you can bet as much as you want.tell him dago sent yea.
Quiz for the interested:
1. What happens if he does shoot the 8 in the same last pocket?
2. What happens if you scratch when shooting at your 8-ball?
a.
b.
This test is iniated by The Surfer Rod! The greatest Last-Pocket 8-ball player that ever lived! I asked my former partner and still friend, Omaha John and the last road player (Mike Schultz) (a great player who has a slip stroke like I use to)) to come through Ogden, Utah, they say, "He had more heart than any of them!" I'm retired now but am excited to share my knowledge and guarantee I can teach you what you need to know in last pocket 8-ball. I'm building a web site the old fashion way via Front Page 2000. It's still a working project. I should have kept a diary. I recall a lot relative to what car I was driving at the time. Two ways to get to my personal web site: http://konnections.net/rodcurry/index.htm or www.rodcurry.com. Does AZBilliards Forum relay messages to my personal email? It is on my web site just in case.
The only "move" I can recommend is to freaking run ALL the WAY out when you attempt a run out.
Failed runouts in last pocket 8 ball are punished much more so than in regular 8 ball.
It is MUCH more important to play your final 3 ball sequence properly in this game.
Just as important, you MUST identify your key ball before you take your first shot. If you get out of position and end up having to shoot the wrong ball, you may have to shoot 3 tough shot sin a row to even have a CHANCE at winning.
Last pocket 8 ball on a Diamond barbox is a brutal game.
Good advice but I use to think (and still do) it was fun and exciting beating the best pool players in the world in last pocket 8-ball.
Russ
(Has gambled up to $60 a game at LP 8 ball.. And pretty much chalked up any failed runout as a loss.)
My message disappeared so I'll try this again. Great advice but I don't understand where you're coming from saying, "Last pocket 8 ball on a Diamond bar box is a brutal game." I've played on just about every bar box but don't recall a "Diamond." I have mastered the game of last pocket 8-ball on the bar box and prefer loose and non-shimmed original pockets like on the Valley or Dynamo.
Underdog accepts 1 ball & the break playing 8-ball or last pocket 8-ball.
Tommy Baker was getting staked by Bernie and Rod bets his own. Well, Tommy did not run long enough to "out run the nuts." He quit a head when he clearly dogged his last stroke and de-accelerate the cue ball such that instead of hitting the 8-ball first, the cue ball clearly hit the rail first and both the 8 and the cue ball moved directly toward the middle of the table. Even if I was the only one to see it, I am also a Mathematician and can always tell a good hit versus a bad by where the balls end up. I should had cue ball in hand. In retrospect, I didn't want to look but think I had a straight on long rail bank. After arguing good hit versus bad hit, I asked, "Did anyone see the 8-ball hit the rail? Tommy said, "I did." (and another across the room said, "I did and it was a good hit. I said to Tommy, "You're a liar and owe me $300 for that game. By rights, I had cue ball in hand. That's the first time I can ever remember quitting someone (winning or losing). It was just the principle of the issue. I couldn't live like that. I thought he'd play again since I have seen him at Rick's last 2 events at the Eagles. I wasn't there for my health. It is well known I love action and still play the same game I lost--not to just Tommy but ever road player that has come though after my 2nd retirement from the irs. Tommy won't bet his own so he must depend on finding a backer. Times are tough I guess. I have a good reputation when it comes to getting to the table and rounding up action. Bottom line, I wrote down 33 ways in which I'll come out of retirement and gamble with anyone; 22 of them are "EVEN." Tommy took the fun and competitive spirit out of the game. I don't lie, still or cheat and it brings me down when another pool player colleague has to stoop so low as to lie and cheat just to round up a little bit of money. Who got heart? Especially, since I don't play anymore and am the best action in the world. I come out of retirement when a good players comes thru And have covered all bets and lost everyone of them so far. What do you do when you're 52 games loser (26 to Haddad (Bernie backing) & 26 to Oklahoma James) I thought was getting staked by Cole Dixon. Wrong; and I find out later they came to town broke and borrowed $5 G's from Rick to play me for a nickel a game? After losing all those games, most would quit. Not me. I doubled the bet, win the last 16 in a row (8 against each opponent after losing a lot the 1st 3 days. In each case, they all quit winner. Cole had my money in his pocket and only paid me half for the last game. James made metal error was out the door before I got to the table. I hope that clears things up. At my age, I play scared but never scared to play.
Tommy Baker was getting staked by Bernie and Rod bets his own. Well, Tommy did not run long enough to "out run the nuts." He quit a head when he clearly dogged his last stroke and de-accelerate the cue ball such that instead of hitting the 8-ball first, the cue ball clearly hit the rail first and both the 8 and the cue ball moved directly toward the middle of the table. Even if I was the only one to see it, I am also a Mathematician and can always tell a good hit versus a bad by where the balls end up. I should had cue ball in hand. In retrospect, I didn't want to look but think I had a straight on long rail bank. After arguing good hit versus bad hit, I asked, "Did anyone see the 8-ball hit the rail? Tommy said, "I did." (and another across the room said, "I did and it was a good hit. I said to Tommy, "You're a liar and owe me $300 for that game. By rights, I had cue ball in hand. That's the first time I can ever remember quitting someone (winning or losing). It was just the principle of the issue. I couldn't live like that. I thought he'd play again since I have seen him at Rick's last 2 events at the Eagles. I wasn't there for my health. It is well known I love action and still play the same game I lost--not to just Tommy but ever road player that has come though after my 2nd retirement from the irs. Tommy won't bet his own so he must depend on finding a backer. Times are tough I guess. I have a good reputation when it comes to getting to the table and rounding up action. Bottom line, I wrote down 33 ways in which I'll come out of retirement and gamble with anyone; 22 of them are "EVEN." Tommy took the fun and competitive spirit out of the game. I don't lie, still or cheat and it brings me down when another pool player colleague has to stoop so low as to lie and cheat just to round up a little bit of money. Who got heart? Especially, since I don't play anymore and am the best action in the world. I come out of retirement when a good players comes thru And have covered all bets and lost everyone of them so far. What do you do when you're 52 games loser (26 to Haddad (Bernie backing) & 26 to Oklahoma James) I thought was getting staked by Cole Dixon. Wrong; and I find out later they came to town broke and borrowed $5 G's from Rick to play me for a nickel a game? After losing all those games, most would quit. Not me. I doubled the bet, win the last 16 in a row (8 against each opponent after losing a lot the 1st 3 days. In each case, they all quit winner. Cole had my money in his pocket and only paid me half for the last game. James made metal error was out the door before I got to the table. I hope that clears things up. At my age, I play scared but never scared to play.
I agree but take exception to the less skilled player comment. Should be less skilled shot make! Rod
You need to ask for a bigger spot if you are losing that bad.
Were I’m wintering they play an even more bizarre version of LP8, all the stripe most be made on one side of the table and the solids on the other side. 1-15 have to be made in the side pocket. Balls are racked with all the stripes on the side opposite the side the go in, likewise the solids. The eight ball is at the head of the rack. There are many other rules about what happens if balls are made in the wrong pocket and the like. Personally I don’t like the game since run outs are virtually impossible and it’s rare to make more than two balls in a row. The typical game normally ends with both sides shooting the eight, we usually play partners. I guess if you like to play strange position and take weird banks it can be a challenging game.
Same last pocket options:
As others have said, the most popular is having your opponent choose your last pocket (leaving the side a viable choice serves as "punishment" for making it in the opponents last pocket :grin
Personally I like allowing the same pocket for the eight. Shooting to make the shot while at the same time adjusting the speed and english so as not to leave your opponent a shot just in case you miss can be fun.
Scratch on the eight = you lose.
As others have said, the most popular is having your opponent choose your last pocket (leaving the side a viable choice serves as "punishment" for making it in the opponents last pocket :grin
Personally I like allowing the same pocket for the eight. Shooting to make the shot while at the same time adjusting the speed and english so as not to leave your opponent a shot just in case you miss can be fun.
Scratch on the eight = you lose.
On my personal website, I wrote down 33 ways I'll come out of retirement; 22 of them are even. It takes 2 or 3 years before a road player comes through to play me. In my day, no one got to the table/action quicker than I. At this stage of my life though, I probably do need a bigger spot but I'm not a nit and cannot turn down a challenge.
I know this is an old thread that someone bumped, but I saw on page 2 you mentioned you were the best last pocket 8ball player ever. I called a friend of mine in NJ for verification on this and he said he wasn't sure - although he'd like to find out and says you can even choose the cue ball (since he knows you like the big heavy ones).
I only mentioned since you said you can't turn down a challenge
What's his name? I might know him if an old timer like I. I played for a living from 1964 to 1983 and played less and less since then. Now, I play about 3-6 hours a month when a friend calls. No local gives me action. A champion road player comes through every 2 or 3 years but usually it takes a local to back him or loan him money to play. If I played more often, I might be broke! Did you see the 33 ways I'll come out retirement to play? I use to have a slip stroke; now, I have a choke/poke stroke but still get to the table every time challenged.I know this is an old thread that someone bumped, but I saw on page 2 you mentioned you were the best last pocket 8ball player ever. I called a friend of mine in NJ for verification on this and he said he wasn't sure - although he'd like to find out and says you can even choose the cue ball (since he knows you like the big heavy ones).
I only mentioned since you said you can't turn down a challenge
Rod:
I was just ribbing you!
I love your website and you have great information on there. Your bio is quite fascinating. I'm a younger guy (34) so I wasn't up to speed with who you were and when you said you were the best last pocket 8b player ever, I was just calling a friend to find out more.You know Allen
He likes the big ball and last pocket 8b too.Dave
Allen who?Rod:
I was just ribbing you!
You know Allen
Dave
This is the was we played the game in the early 70's. I think Fargo plays as good as anyone I've seen play the game. Gary Cey played pretty sporty also.
Last pocket
Usually only seen much in bars when the fellow feels he needs some edge or longer game or tougher game. Doesn't realise the better player will play all games better. Only thing that queers the game is if the eight ball gets deep in a corner pocket right off the break. How's anybody going to dig it out. Nobody wants to finish shooting their group. Solution is rerack or spot or whatever, great partners game. When playing in a bar and holding the table, I would never let someone change the game. And then some think bank the eight can not be a rail first kick. Bull. Kicking is a bank that goes rail first, which is a bank to me. I know this will get some comments, but I am too old to really care. I know I am right and don't need to convert anyone to my way of thinking. Don't argue with old guys, we have been right way too long!!!