Least favorite thing about the Derby?

skogstokig

AzB Silver Member
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another thing. the number of entrants has gone up, and presumably with that the buyback $$, but the prize money is stagnant?

(i'm assuming entry fee hasn't been lowered, and the casino still gives added money)
 

Biloxi Boy

Man With A Golden Arm
Seating. The fact that it is so lacking in so many areas demonstrates the absolute disrespect which Diamond holds for its "guests". If a venue is inadequate, it is inadequate. Period. End of story. Find another space.

DCC today is a perfect example of the emperor's clothes. DCC at EW needed improvement, but it was poised for greatness. Sadly, it has gotten worse not better. After all these many years, DCC should be running like a top. The reason it does not function correctly is it cannot because it suffers from a fundamental flaw -- an inadequate venue.

The recurring theme I get from DCC today is "Hooray for me, and #($% you." As long as people continue to take it, Diamond will keep dishing it out. I voted with my feet a long time ago. My time and money are too precious to travel so far for pleasure only to be disrespected and disappointed. Is a simple chair in which to rest and watch a sport I love too much to ask?

It hurts me to write this but I am compelled as I experienced a nascent DCC -- when it was really incredible and had potential to become so much more.
 
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JAM

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I applaud Greg Sullivan for keeping the Derby City Classic alive. It is a pool player's mecca, welcoming to players of all caliber, whether you're a tournament soldier or an action player. That's what it's all about for some.

The time of year, January, sucks for traveling to this region of the country. I remember driving there from D.C. and seeing 18-wheelers slide of the roads in the mountains of West Virginia due to the icing of the highways, and one year, we had to get a hotel an hour away from the Executive West and stay there for two days until the winter storm subsided. It was too dangerous to drive back home. The weather this time of year in this neck of the woods is a big bugaboo for some, I think.

The buyback makes the scheduling challenging, and it used to cause a lot of forfeits because the players did not know when their match was, which sometimes had several time changes.

As an aside, I was surprised to learn from a friend that veteran Derby goers Shannon Daulton and John Brumback did not go to this year's Derby.

Also, I'm curious what happened to the One Pocket Hall of Fame banquet occurring elsewhere instead of at the Derby

In sum, no matter where the event is held, whether a new venue is found or it stays here, it is impossible to please everybody, and in the end, people will keep coming back because of the nonstop pool action and competitions which is really the main draw.
 

Kid Dynomite

Dennis (Michael) Wilson
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I applaud Greg Sullivan for keeping the Derby City Classic alive. It is a pool player's mecca, welcoming to players of all caliber, whether you're a tournament soldier or an action player. That's what it's all about for some.

The time of year, January, sucks for traveling to this region of the country. I remember driving there from D.C. and seeing 18-wheelers slide of the roads in the mountains of West Virginia due to the icing of the highways, and one year, we had to get a hotel an hour away from the Executive West and stay there for two days until the winter storm subsided. It was too dangerous to drive back home. The weather this time of year in this neck of the woods is a big bugaboo for some, I think.

The buyback makes the scheduling challenging, and it used to cause a lot of forfeits because the players did not know when their match was, which sometimes had several time changes.

As an aside, I was surprised to learn from a friend that veteran Derby goers Shannon Daulton and John Brumback did not go to this year's Derby.

Also, I'm curious what happened to the One Pocket Hall of Fame banquet occurring elsewhere instead of at the Derby

In sum, no matter where the event is held, whether a new venue is found or it stays here, it is impossible to please everybody, and in the end, people will keep coming back because of the nonstop pool action and competitions which is really the main draw.
I assumed this thread was meant to facilitate positive changes and not meant to bash or discourage?

Squeaky wheel gets the grease type thing!

Kd

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Biloxi Boy

Man With A Golden Arm
I applaud Greg Sullivan for keeping the Derby City Classic alive . . .

Alive. Is that all there is to hope for? DCC is 27 years old this year. At this stage I would hope that we could praise Mr. Sullivan for a "thriving" DCC -- one which had improved with each and every iteration. Considering all of the pool hall closings which have rocked our sport in recent times, I can appreciate that we might should be overjoyed with mere survival. Sadly, however, this seems to be the present nature of our game, but I can't help believing that pool and pool players deserve so much more.
 

tableroll

Rolling Thunder
Silver Member
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The food
The smoke
The lack of seating
The fact that year after year, more people find my private viewing section (which hasn’t been private for 15 years.
No more Louie Roberts Award

But none of it is so bad that it would ever stop me from coming year after year.
Bad food.
 

iusedtoberich

AzB Silver Member
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another thing. the number of entrants has gone up, and presumably with that the buyback $$, but the prize money is stagnant?

(i'm assuming entry fee hasn't been lowered, and the casino still gives added money)
The entry fee has actually gone up over the years.
 

decent dennis

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Bad food.
Yeah, there’s 5places set up for food , two were open pretty much all the time. The pizza place I’ve never seen open in three years and the cantina wasn’t open this time.
These places are all right outside the tournament room.
 

garczar

AzB Silver Member
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Alive. Is that all there is to hope for? DCC is 27 years old this year. At this stage I would hope that we could praise Mr. Sullivan for a "thriving" DCC -- one which had improved with each and every iteration. Considering all of the pool hall closings which have rocked our sport in recent times, I can appreciate that we might should be overjoyed with mere survival. Sadly, however, this seems to be the present nature of our game, but I can't help believing that pool and pool players deserve so much more.
Might want to try again. First yr was 1999. Think they clearly announced this as the '25th year' for it.
 

Biloxi Boy

Man With A Golden Arm
OFM! Two years? What a nit. No, wait, what a Nit. Guess I best wait two more years before my observations approach validity.
 

tableroll

Rolling Thunder
Silver Member
another thing. the number of entrants has gone up, and presumably with that the buyback $$, but the prize money is stagnant?

(i'm assuming entry fee hasn't been lowered, and the casino still gives added money)

Yeah, there’s 5places set up for food , two were open pretty much all the time. The pizza place I’ve never seen open in three years and the cantina wasn’t open this time.
These places are all right outside the tournament room.
 

CaptainBly

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Alive. Is that all there is to hope for? DCC is 27 years old this year. At this stage I would hope that we could praise Mr. Sullivan for a "thriving" DCC -- one which had improved with each and every iteration. Considering all of the pool hall closings which have rocked our sport in recent times, I can appreciate that we might should be overjoyed with mere survival. Sadly, however, this seems to be the present nature of our game, but I can't help believing that pool and pool players deserve so much more.
I would say its doing better than just 'alive"
Sells out every year, faster and faster. This year there was a slew of posts from "pro's" who waited to long to sign up. Are there problem's? For sure, but it isn't dying or fading out anytime soon. Even if the top pro's leave it will still sell out. Look at the SBE, no pro's in that and it sells out.
What solutions are you offering? It's a unique event and that is what a lot of the draw is. I would hate to see it become just like every other tournament.
 

Bob Jewett

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How much does the casino contribute?
I think the only reason the DCC is at the Horseshoe is the money and rooms they give to the event. I doubt anyone here knows the details.

The Horseshoe hotel is currently having a room sale at $87/night. The DCC fills the hotel -- southern Indiana in the middle of winter -- for a week at higher rates.
 
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