Length of Back Swing

[ronscuba]

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[BeiberLvr]

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[Bob Jewett]

http://youtu.be/sToczoOaAt0?t=2m17s

I doubt that John Higgins would play nursery cannons with that backswing.

 

[BeiberLvr]

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[Scott Lee]

For most SOP shooting, which will encompass very likely 70-80% of shots in a game, the backswing will be predicated on how far back you pull your tip (Buddy Hall's ferrule disappears into his finger curled around the cue). Most of us should pull the cue back to our hand somewhere, for anything other than really soft shots (finesse speed)...and you might even do that for finesse speed, if you shorten up your bridge enough. The finish (aka how far your tip should go, past the CB), is dictated by how your arm works with your body (for a pendulum stroke). You don't "follow through", you finish your stroke (which automatically gives you 'follow through'). How much depends on the person. Letting cue weight and timing create the speed of the stroke is one way to achieve more consistent, higher level play.

Scott Lee
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I didn't think Nic was saying you should use that type of backswing on every shot. He was just pointing out the fact the length of the backswing is independent of the speed required. Which in my opinion is true, with maybe a minor exception.

Using "his" speed scale of 1-10. Let's say the majority of shots (excluding the break) will fall into the 2-7 range. To shoot a 7 speed shot, you might need a minimum backswing length, but with that backswing length you can shoot any speed under 7 as well.

That's ideal to me. Much more consistent than having a different backswing for different speeds. Of course during match play, I'm certain most players sub consciously alter their backswing length slightly according to the speed required. That's fine as well.

 

[BilliardsAbout]

1. There are very capable players who take short backswings of a few short inches on many of their shots.

2. When a player says "my backswing is too long" then it usually equals when Fran said, bridge is too long. Shortening the bridge has to reduce much of the oomph in the stroke as the fingers of the hand bridge limit the backstroke length. The culprit in hitting the cue ball too forcefully could be lifting the backstroke, a hard grip, an attempt to get leverage instead of smooth movement. The player should shorten the bridge and then have his stroking mechanics examined by a teacher if he's still striking the balls too hard.

 

[CJ Wiley]

in golf they allow 14 clubs, in pool there's only one

I recommend choking up on your cue to near the balance point and allowing this to automatically shorten your bridge (and your stroke's delivery distance).

Many players don't "real eyes" you can make your cue into many different lengths simply by choking up or holding the cue further back (for longer shots).....in golf they allow 14 clubs, in pool there's only one, so make the most of it (of course there's jump/break cues, but they are more for specialty shots).

I think a lot of my problems with my stroke stems from my back swing. There are a lot of times, where I try and hit the ball softer/not so hard, and still go too far on my position. I may have the mind set that I draw back the same distance and depending on how hard or soft I slow down my forward movement. I realize that this is wrong and I would like some thoughts on this issue. Is the length, depending on the hit controlled by your back hand or in looking at how far you bring the tip of your cue back? I have made great strides in my stroke by working on my grip and wrist. Looser grip and am cocking my wrist towards the cue ball. Are there any guidelines in relation to the speed of cue ball as to how far you bring the tip back or is it strictly regulated by the speed of your forward stroke?

Thanks in advance for comments/suggestions.

 

[Cardigan Kid]

In the TAR podcast between Alex pagulyan and Francisco bustamante, they talk about each other's stroke, and Alex demonstrates three different strokes he uses. In one, he barely had a back swing, but it's deadly accurate. I've seen this become very effective on very long shots with cue ball frozen to the rail.

Here is the link. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Y2qoCtdiak