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poolgoddess

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How does the length of the ferrul affect the hit? Is the hit,
also affected with different materials along with the length
of each? For an example, how does the hit differ from a 1/2",
3/4", or 1" ferrul of Ivory, compare to a 1/2", 3/4" or 1" ferrul
of Juma? And please, I don't need a smart ass answer, just
some useful and helpful comments, would be appreciated.
Forgot one parameter, the tip. So before everyone goes
balistic, about how it depends on what tip one uses, how about
I pick the tip for every length,and material. I'll go with a Moori Med.
Have fun.
 
poolgoddess said:
How does the length of the ferrul affect the hit? Is the hit,
also affected with different materials along with the length
of each? For an example, how does the hit differ from a 1/2",
3/4", or 1" ferrul of Ivory, compare to a 1/2", 3/4" or 1" ferrul
of Juma? And please, I don't need a smart ass answer, just
some useful and helpful comments, would be appreciated.
Forgot one parameter, the tip. So before everyone goes
balistic, about how it depends on what tip one uses, how about
I pick the tip for every length,and material. I'll go with a Moori Med.
Have fun.
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There will be a lot of different answers here.
It depends on the which ferulle you use.
I like the 5/8 " xtc ferulles they hit softer in my opinion than the juma.
Juma to me also has a tink sound to it. It also feels harder to me. I have tried it in several lengths. 5/8 3/4 and 1" I also used Kamui SS tips on each of these. I havent tired the xtc ferulles with moori med. I personally dont care for them tips.

What kind of hit are you looking for?
 
I prefer 1/2 inch for playing cues. For us , it seemed to produce the nicest most solid hit. We felt it showed less deflection also. Never was a fan of ivory for ferrulles. And to go much shorter in ivory ferrulles usually resulted in pre mature cracking for us. I agree with Patrick Cues, we didn't care for juma no matter the length as we too also did not like the sound it produces. For us a good ferrulle was linen. Harder to keep clean at times for players, but felt it produced the best hit with a variance of tips installed. So 1/2 inch for players cues, and really liked a tad shorter for break cues. We also threaded all of our ferrulles. And also like Patrick Cues, never been a big fan of Moori, especially after the first wave of them. Actually just not a fan of layered tips at all. Hope this helped.
 
danieldakota53 said:
I prefer 1/2 inch for playing cues. For us , it seemed to produce the nicest most solid hit. We felt it showed less deflection also. Never was a fan of ivory for ferrulles. And to go much shorter in ivory ferrulles usually resulted in pre mature cracking for us. I agree with Patrick Cues, we didn't care for juma no matter the length as we too also did not like the sound it produces. For us a good ferrulle was linen. Harder to keep clean at times for players, but felt it produced the best hit with a variance of tips installed. So 1/2 inch for players cues, and really liked a tad shorter for break cues. We also threaded all of our ferrulles. And also like Patrick Cues, never been a big fan of Moori, especially after the first wave of them. Actually just not a fan of layered tips at all. Hope this helped.
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Who is us?
 
Material type, length, bore size, design, adhesive used, etc. all make a difference. Even the tip's thickness, hardness, history, etc. make a difference. An Elk Master that has been been on for years & used by a guy who hits firm, will be a harder tip than a brand new Triangle at full height. All of your soft layered tips get harder & harder as each layer disappears from shaping & grooming. I wish there was a more comprehensive answer but there's not. With a ferrule, the variables are limitless. With tips, the variables are fluid.

If you are a cue maker then try different things, keeping notes along the way, and settle on what gives you the results you like. From here you have a baseline from which you can fine tune. If not a cue maker, then try different cues from different cue makers & stick with what you like best. Every cue maker has what they like, but not every cue maker will be willing to spend time experimenting for you. If you know what you want, many will do as you ask. Some will not. Some will only stick to the formula that works for them, and won't deviate.
 
Deflection happens when a basketball falls through the hoop and bounces off your head into the bleachers. Also see baseball for a related definition on saculation.
 
The length does not matter, Juma will always have a softer feel than Ivory.
As a general rule the londer the ferrule the more of the feel of that ferrule material it produces. So a hard hitting ferrule will hit harder if longer and a softer ferrule will hit even softer if longer. The shorter the ferrule the less effect it has on the feel.
 
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