linen wraps

People still order cues with linen wrap? :D

Dunk the spool flat inside a plastic coffee can.
Small oil funnel with the spout coming out of a hole.
Feed the linen through that hole.
I'd patent it but not worth it .
 
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Arnot Wadsworth said:
It is amazing to hear how fast some of you cuemakers install a linen wrap.

I never considered speed in the equation when it came to any aspect of cuemaking. The main consideration here at Arnot Q Custom Cues is in doing the job to perfection. If it takes a little more time to do it right then that's just the way it has to be.

Please don't take this as a "slam" because I know many of you build a great cue and do wonderful repair work. I'm just never thinking about how long it takes when I am working.

Good Cuemaking
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I've timed out almost every aspect of building and repairing so I can set fair prices. I know what shop time cost per hour, materials, and time to perform each task. Now, I don't sit here and get in a hurry but I am always conscientious. I win most and lose some but that's how I roll with it.
 
I do them by hand also but it takes me a while to wrap the linen on because I allways start from the shaft end and go uphill and I run the elmers about an inch wide and make 6 to 8 turns and shove the linen tight and start over with the glue. Like I say it ain't fast but I don't like gaps before pressing, how many makers wrap either way uphill or down.--Leonard
 
I'm not knocking your method but there's a reason that we do it quickly
and all at once. Guaranteed, no gaps.
We lay the glue on the whole area and as they say, let `er rip.
Actual time of applying the linen is maybe a minute or less.
The glue hasn't even thought of setting-up by the time I'm cinching the end.
I want my glue still in semi-liquid form when I start pressing because I want
to see it squishing up between the cordage to insure adequate coverage.
Light misting of water will remove it from the surface during & after pressing.
At that point, you can take all the time in the world.

If you get a chance, watch someone like Joe Blackburn do a wrap some time.
It'll be an A-HA moment.
BTW, I start at the 'A' jnt and work towards the butt end.
 
I have had good sucess either way KJ but I don't have a footpedal and when I set the dc motor at a strong pull I end up with an overlap at least twice a wrap and I just need more practice (and a foot pedal maybe). One thing about this dc motor is you ain't going to stall this sucker holding a string or both hands on both chucks, it ain't happening so I rest 1 hand on the headstock and turn the chuck while feeding on the 6 to 8 turns of linen with the motor off. And since It is slower I don't glue the whole handle at one time so I know I have a good glue bond all the way up the line. Funny that you mention watching Joe do wraps, two years ago at the US Open I stood and watched his co worker do a few great leather wraps. I was amazed how quick and precise he was and sad when I heard a few weeks later he was dead. Thanks for the input KJ and I'll go back to trying your way and so far the cues I have made from scratch or converted have all been wrapless so it's just repair customers cues with linen. This is the second time you helped me out and I do apreciate it, you are at the top of my list.--Leonard
 
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The only place I can see where time would be an issue really is how it relates to what KJ mentioned,maintaining a wet bed for the wrap,however re-wetting with your spray bottle fixes that,:cool:.

The whole idea is once again as KJ put it,getting it down as close as possible,so that gaps are so minimal they are filled in with glue,which either cleans itself up during finishing,or adds a step. The amount of time is irrelevant,and props to those of you that do it right AND quick :thumbup:.

I've done 2 linen wraps at this point. One was for a customer. I did both of them in about about 2 hours EACH. That is doing it 4" at a time,turning it by hand in the lathe with the spindle off because my big lathe has no reverse or foot control,giving the sections time to dry,cleanup and cosmetics.

I had about 15 feet left off a single-cue Prather roll the first time,close to 3 the 2nd :wink:. On my cue,there were a couple small gaps that weren't obvious,but were both within 1/2 of the ends,and small enough even I have to look for.

On the customer's cue,it looked like Eddie's Joss when he handed it to Vincent in the office :grin-square:. The last time I saw it,you still couldn't feel a single strand anywhere,flat from one end to the other.

If I can spend that much time,those can do it in 30 even having snags should just breathe a little,LOL. Tommy D
 
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