Lining up

I've been trying to get back to the hybrid stance. After much trial and error I found with out making a conscious adjustment with the traditional stance that I would consistently aim about 3/8 off an inch from where I thought I was aiming. It looked right but wasn't. Like you said about craning your neck and your eyes. It just created more problems that needed to be fixed. If it's not broke don't fix it.
 
I use a hybrid snooker/ pool stance. I never have had a problem with my hips on any other part of my body getting in the way. However when I tried to go to a more traditional pool stance my hip and side would get in the way because I was not able to position my eyes/ head in a way to properly visualize the shot. I would catch myself either pulling my arm or adjusting my torso and playing havoc with everything else. It was horrible. Have spent the better part of a year trying to get back to where I was.

Addressing the hip and torso issue, this is absolutely true and hits the nail right on the head. At the suggestion of an instructor, I started playing with a more open hip position about 5 years ago with my feet open about 30 degrees to the cue line and both knees slightly bent. It put my head further rearward, with my weight more centered between my feet. It improved my long shots quite a bit and is very comfortable.

I also find it easier to line up standing back on the cue line and stepping forward into shooting position . This is basically a very balanced and comfortable position, easy on the back, and I believe the head is in an optimal sighting position.

For every player I see with a "too open stance" , I see a great many more with poor balance and a too closed stance. They look all twisted up and uncomfortable to me

Chris
 
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I think my head is going to explode

True, but this really is important. Once you get to a certain point you discover that most of the time the shot is made or missed while the player is lining up for it.

Chris
 
You're right Tate. Most shots are missed on the line up IMO. A person's eyes lead the way. A perfect stance means squat if you can't see the shot,have no balance and aren't relaxed. At the pace I'm going I might me back to where I started in another year :angry:. The link from Sean helped out so has some of the other info in this thread.
 
stumpie71...Remember what I told you a couple of years ago. Stand how you want to. As long as you're comfortable, balanced, and have free movement of the cue, along your swingpath, it doesn't matter if you're 90 degrees to the table (squared up snooker stance), 45 degrees (standard pool stance), or something greater or lessor than that. Find a stance that works for you. I find far too many students obsessing over what kind of stance they SHOULD have...when the best one is staring them in the face. BTW, I'll be back in VA for the Open in a couple of weeks, in case you're interested in any followup to our last lesson.

Scott Lee
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I've been trying to get back to the hybrid stance. After much trial and error I found with out making a conscious adjustment with the traditional stance that I would consistently aim about 3/8 off an inch from where I thought I was aiming. It looked right but wasn't. Like you said about craning your neck and your eyes. It just created more problems that needed to be fixed. If it's not broke don't fix it.
 
All of this info is very valuable to me at this point in time. I've been struggling the last few weeks, and I know it has everything to do with fundamentals; stance, grip, stroke. (I know, that's pretty much the entire game, but it's really become a problem the last few weeks.) This thread is helping me big time right now.

Thanks everyone.
 
I think this will cause you to reach across your body with your bridge arm, and maybe will put your hip in the way of your cue.

In the video linked by Ralph Kramden, Thorsten Hohmann shows one way to find a body-to-stick angle that might work better for you.

pj
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it depends on if he stands open or closed, open is basically what you see snooker players do and closed is the typical 45º pool stance.....if its open then then hips are square with the shot and there will be no crossing over or body parts in the way.
 
Had some tips today from an AZ poster who plays good (Banking B) he offered a few minor tips on lining up and building a stance. Does anyone have anything they do to line up. The iems Brian suggested for me were...

Square up to shot with shoulders (my left usually lagged back I shoot left handed)
Square up bridge to line of CB path
Slight head rotation (caused by left shoulder lag)

These minor items cause some misses and I will be working on them in my game. This squaring up has major implications just thought I owuld share. I am playing pretty well about to go back to 14.1 wish me luck.

Line up the center of the cueball to the center of the ghostball.
Place tip on the center of cueball in line.
Plant back foot on that line.
Go down lined up to the stick , line up where your grip hand ends-up in your follow thru ( check Allison Fisher, she lines up her right pec ).
Plant the front foot so that it's comfy once you are down and that your stroke is not interfered or being skewed away from the line.
Dominant eye and side of the chin lined above the stick ( center of the ghostball ).
 
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