Longer cues

I cant wait for Mike Gulyassy to finish making me the new "Earl" shaft for this 60" cue of his. 14mm with a black phenolic ferrule.

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Not sure what you mean. The balance point moves back on the cue no matter where you grip it.

pj
chgo

Correct. But the distance from you grip hand to that balance point (the center of mass of the cue) might change if I move my hand back to take advantage of the extra space. It's that difference from the center of mass that you feel on your fingers (or not, I don't think a few inches matters).

In my example above, if I grip my hand at the very end of the cue in both examples, my hand is 18 in from the balance point pre extension and 22 inches from that balance point when using the extension.
 
Correct. But the distance from you grip hand to that balance point (the center of mass of the cue) might change if I move my hand back to take advantage of the extra space. It's that difference from the center of mass that you feel on your fingers (or not, I don't think a few inches matters).

In my example above, if I grip my hand at the very end of the cue in both examples, my hand is 18 in from the balance point pre extension and 22 inches from that balance point when using the extension.
Oh, I get you now. Thanks for the patient replies to my nitpicking.

pj
chgo
 
1. Does a 30" shaft have more deflection?

2. I grip a 58" cue with my pinky finger a the very end of the butt, and my elbow barely forms a 90 degree angle. If I got an extension for my cue, I think I would grip the cue right on the interface between the butt and the extension. Does anyone else do that? Is it distracting? I was thinking of having a custom cue made in a 60" length AND get a 4" extension. That way, I could grip the cue just ahead of the butt/extension interface.
 
With so many trying longer cues now days, I decided to make a short extension for one of my Schons to try. While the piece of Birdseye I had laying around in the shop wasn't near as nice as what was on my cue, I decided it would be OK for an experiment.Was a fun little project and added 2 1/2" to the cue. Any more and it wouldn't fit my case. As to added weight, wasn't much as I hollowed it out as much as I could, and put a aluminum weight screw in my cue in place of the steel one it had. Added about 1/2 oz when all said and done. Weight with extension, 19 3/4 oz, cue length with a 30" shaft 61 1/2". Used it at home for about 3 weeks now and took it to league this week and had a couple shots where I was bumping a table with the bumper a couple of times so I took it off when getting home. The cue balance remained good with how I lightened it up. Really liked it, but if it's going to interfere when out shooting, I'll leave it off for now. Total cost to make about 60 cents for a longer bumper bolt. Also purchased a couple of extensions from Rick Roper about the same time and ended up using his bumper on the wood extension while I had it on. So the other pic is of the Rick roper extensions.
Exactly what I need. The butt of my sneaky Pete cue is hollowed out about 18" deep. So would the void need to be completely filled, then tapped for the extension bolt? Not really worried about the extra couple ounces, but as little as possible and still achieve the desired outcome.
Eddie
 
Ok. Is this new for, to use a 14mm playing shaft?
I have used 14mm shafts since I was a teenager and used to have all my cues made with 14mm shafts.

Only the cues I have purchased in the last several years have less than 14mm shafts.

Earl just recently started playing with a 14mm.
 
I am a taller guy with longer arms. I like longer cues as long as they are balanced. My next custom I am going have a 60 or 61 built. Playing solely on 9 ft tables the length is very convenient especially with my longer arm span.
 
Eddie, here is some pics of what I experimented with. I have since taken it off as it interfered at times with the seating in our pool league. I do prefer it on though. I now use Rick roper carbon extensions with his quick detach replacement bumper. They are really nice and incredibly light, and can be made in any length desired. May take a couple of posts for all pics. Just so there is no confusion, I now only use the extension when needed.
 

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Eddie, here is some pics of what I experimented with. I have since taken it off as it interfered at times with the seating in our pool league. I do prefer it on though. I now use Rick roper carbon extensions with his quick detach replacement bumper. They are really nice and incredibly light, and can be made in any length desired. May take a couple of posts for all pics.
Rick Roper carbon Extension……Looking it up
 
Really nice guy. Look him up on facebook. I do have his phone #, pm me and I'll give if needed. I think he makes the quick release bumpers to fit most all cues. They added a couple of tenths of an oz of weight compared to my Schon bumper. I have a bunch of Schon weight screws though, so I just shortened one to get back to my weight. He builds and ships fast.
 
I’m wondering how they ( Shane , Jayson and Earl ) have cues 64-66” that are not over 20oz ? If the cues are over 20oz , how heavy and how they adjusted, like them and anyone else here tried it ? Thanks 😊
It feels good at the start and it has some benefits like you feel the hand is going straight + you could draw easier with less power. However, in the grand scheme of things, I think the negative outweighs the positive. I feel that they really believe that this longer cue is benefiting them and it's true they believe this which has some psychological effect added with the advantage that I've told previously which is true BUT in reality, they would do better in the normal length cue.

Jayson used to have better results with his Meucci normal length cue.
Shane used to have better results with his older Cuetec normal length cue.
Earl used to have better results with his normal length cue "Cuetec".

Most other guys who use normal length cues are doing better, Albin, Filler, and a lot of the rest.

Some players who used to be using the extension in the butt have removed them and seem to be performing better.

Check stats.
 
When I got a cue with an extension a couple years ago, I tried playing with the extension attached full time, but I found it to be distracting and took it off after a few games. I instead opted to use it just for shots where the extra length was needed. I've been meaning to test the full-time extension again, and after reading this thread, I decided to give it another try. This time it felt better. I noticed myself using the extra length for several shots I didn't think it was needed, causing me to reevaluate how I'm holding the cue in certain situations. The extra weight feels a little strange, but I'm going to continue experimenting with it.
 
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