Looking at the OB differently

[Ralph Kramden]

I think it's possible to look (or aim) at the object ball differently on some shots.

The OB ball is a sphere.. but looking at it as a flat surface, or disk, is possible
if you're aiming using CTE, or if you aim by doubling the distance. Again IMO.

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[bdorman]

I think it's possible to look (or aim) at the object ball differently on some shots.

The OB ball is a sphere.. but looking at it as a flat surface, or disk, is possible
if you're aiming using CTE, or if you aim by doubling the distance. Again IMO.

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It's an interesting discussion about how our mind flips between the 3-dimensional view (reality) and 2-dimensional interpretation (practicality) in everything we see. But the "flips" happen so quickly (a couple of times per second) and automatically that it's not something we can really control. It's our brain's way of getting the most utility out of its limited resources.

 

[philly]

Is it really that complicated? There is a spot on the OB where it should be hit in order to pocket it. Why does it have to be more complicated than that?

 

[bbb]

Is it really that complicated? There is a spot on the OB where it should be hit in order to pocket it. Why does it have to be more complicated than that?

because it gives the members something to talk about..........::smile:

 

[philly]

because it gives the members something to talk about..........::smile:

I guess that's why there is so much confusion. Play the shot. Don't think about the shot. If you thought about all that went in to walking while you were walking you wouldn't be able to walk. Think during your pre shot routine not while you are over the ball.

 

[JoeyInCali]

I think it's possible to look (or aim) at the object ball differently on some shots.

The OB ball is a sphere.. but looking at it as a flat surface, or disk, is possible
if you're aiming using CTE, or if you aim by doubling the distance. Again IMO.

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That's how a lot of the Pinoy pros started playing.
Played with Pinoy Pool ( ebony discs ).
When you are picturing the tangent line, I think it comes in the picture .

 

[Ralph Kramden]

That's how a lot of the Pinoy pros started playing.
Played with Pinoy Pool ( ebony discs ).
When you are picturing the tangent line, I think it comes in the picture .

Bingo.. If picturing the tangent line you might think of a flat disc that's turned 90 degrees from the pocket.
That's something to talk about... Position.

When picturing the OB aiming point, you might think of a flat disc turned 90 degrees from the cue ball line.
That's something to talk about... Aiming.

It doesn't sound very complicated to me. You need to hit the OB on the aim point... AND play for position.
On certain shots thinking of the OB as a flat disk may help some folks visualize in doing one.. or the other.

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[Patrick Johnson]

I think it's possible to look (or aim) at the object ball differently on some shots.

The OB ball is a sphere.. but looking at it as a flat surface, or disk, is possible
if you're aiming using CTE, or if you aim by doubling the distance. Again IMO.

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I see the CB and OB as spheres and don't use any aiming system.

But I can imagine that seeing the balls as discs is more natural for others, and maybe aiming systems work well if you see the balls as discs. Could be one reason for liking systems...?

pj
chgo

 

[One Pocket John]

I've always looked at the balls as flat disc's playing. The way I see balls does not allow me to see round.


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[336Robin]

Round vs Flat

It does amaze me sometimes that there are so many different ways at looking at Pool Shots. I don't think its so important how one views the front of the shot as it is however you choose to do that, that the visualization takes into account the width of the ball because a contact point doesn't go into the pocket. A 2.1/4 in ball does and not allowing somehow for the part of the ball that you cant see on the backside of the sphere can be the difference between a make and miss.

Its been said to me that aiming is not a one size fits all proposition and I agree but there are a few things that must be constant and many folks don't get so solid on there sizing up methods to eliminate a high percentage of mistakes that are extremely easy to make.

 

[philly]

It does amaze me sometimes that there are so many different ways at looking at Pool Shots. I don't think its so important how one views the front of the shot as it is however you choose to do that, that the visualization takes into account the width of the ball because a contact point doesn't go into the pocket. A 2.1/4 in ball does and not allowing somehow for the part of the ball that you cant see on the backside of the sphere can be the difference between a make and miss.

Its been said to me that aiming is not a one size fits all proposition and I agree but there are a few things that must be constant and many folks don't get so solid on there sizing up methods to eliminate a high percentage of mistakes that are extremely easy to make.

My goodness. With all you guys take into consideration how do you ever pocket a ball? Worrying about the back side of the ball that you cannot even see? I think it was Karen Corr who said "Aiming is simple. Hit the point on the object ball that is furthest away from the pocket." I'll go with that. You know, keep it simple.

 

[LAMas]

Does Corr adjust for CIT or SIT when hitting "...the point on the object ball that is furthest away from the pocket."

Not as simple as she states.

 

[3RAILKICK]

simple concepts can be complicated, if you want them to work in a variety of circumstances:wink:


if I find the correct aim for a shot that I slow roll with just top, have I found the correct aim if I hit it hard, with some or extreme english, with stun stop action on the cb, jacked up, or force follow, or sliding drag english/.......

sometimes you need a full spectrum of easy aim solutions for seemingly simple shots...some easy shots are harder than others..

of course all come back to just hit it where needed to pocket the ball and travel the cb where needed.

much like walking without thinking on flat, uphill, downhill, sidehill, rocky, sandy, icy, slick and wet surfaces...adjustments may be necessary to remain upright..:thumbup:

where is that 'easy button'?

 

[LAMas]

simple concepts can be complicated, if you want them to work in a variety of circumstances:wink:


if I find the correct aim for a shot that I slow roll with just top, have I found the correct aim if I hit it hard, with some or extreme english, with stun stop action on the cb, jacked up, or force follow, or sliding drag english/.......

sometimes you need a full spectrum of easy aim solutions for seemingly simple shots...some easy shots are harder than others..

of course all come back to just hit it where needed to pocket the ball and travel the cb where needed.

much like walking without thinking on flat, uphill, downhill, sidehill, rocky, sandy, icy, slick and wet surfaces...adjustments may be necessary to remain upright..:thumbup:

where is that 'easy button'?

It's hard to master the effects of the "full spectrum" of hits on the CB...but necessary.
for good shape.

Be well.