Low-ranked Female Pros

crawfish said:
Maybe. I don't remember. I am by no means a champion and she asked for the eight. That's my point. I should've played that. Bartable and a wild ball though. I had easier action somewhere else if I remember correctly.
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Nikki is a good gambler. She DRILLED Rachel Abbink at the DCC maybe 2/3 years ago.
 
Ken_4fun said:
This is pretty easy.

Have her go play some players on tour or former players. When I was in Terre Haute, one of our AZers here was on the tour. She is great person and would play cheap sets with anyone.

The advantage to pool, is the accessablity to the players. Another one Sarah Rousey is about the nicest person you would ever meet. Trust me, they are approachable and usually pretty nice folks.

Have her play some cheap $50 sets with a few and get a feeling.

JMO,

Ken
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I second that about how nice Sarah Rousey is. I did a post about cues a while back and she PM'd me and gave me some real good advice. I haven't met her personally but messaging a few times back and forth i could tell she was really nice.
 
I know that at the end of 1992 Nikki was ranked 11th. Can't speak for how high she climbed.
 
Andrew Manning said:
Having watched on TV, it's pretty apparent what the level of play is among the small crowd of Allison Fisher, Ga Young Kim, Karen Corr, Monica Webb, and whoever else rounds out the top 7 or 8 female pros. My question is, what's the level of play among the lowest ranked players on the WPBA tour?

I have a female team-mate (APA 8-ball), who dreams of one day playing on the WPBA tour. She's currently an SL6. She thinks that once she has improved enough to be a solid 7 in the APA, she has a chance against the lesser players in the WPBA. My gut instinct is that can't be the case; that those women would be much much better than your average APA 7. But I don't really know, because I've never really seen them play. Perhaps some of you have, and can weigh in?

-Andrew
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The big question is, what is the level of play that she faces in the APA. There are plenty of SL7s out there who can't run out of a burning building, but are ranked as such because they play in an area where the competition isn't exactly tough. I've played a few 7s that I thought were AWFUL.

But if she is playing and competing with the likes of some very solid players, it could never hurt to try for the WPBA. Like someone else on here said already, some of the women you see in those tournaments are just 'filler', much like you see in some of the men's tourneys.
 
Andrew why not tell your friend to try one of the regional tours. She can then judge for herself what her speed is against the pros and maybe pick up a few bucks.


Terry
 
She might want to take a look at the WPBA site. They have their first Satelitte Tour coming up in July 2009 at Borderlines Billiards in Tenn. I have been saying the WPBA needed to have 6-12 smaller tour stops in nice sportsbars across the US with smaller entry fees and smaller purses for years. If they can come up with 6-8 of them a year in between the regular Classic stops it will help out the players on tour that are thinking of dropping out for financial reasons, and not enought tour stops.

IMO this will lead to more women amatuer players practicing more to play in these events and bring the tour to more fans and players that don't have Classic stops near them. I think these smaller stops will be very good for the WPBA. Johnnyt
 
mia said:
The big question is, what is the level of play that she faces in the APA. There are plenty of SL7s out there who can't run out of a burning building, but are ranked as such because they play in an area where the competition isn't exactly tough. I've played a few 7s that I thought were AWFUL.

But if she is playing and competing with the likes of some very solid players, it could never hurt to try for the WPBA. Like someone else on here said already, some of the women you see in those tournaments are just 'filler', much like you see in some of the men's tourneys.
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amen to that - we have some apa 7s (8ball) and 9s (9ball) here in the atlanta area that can just torture you. run racks, safe you to the point of attrition, and then we have some who hate playing even somone like me because they know spotting me or not they are going to have a tough time (i'm a 5 sometimes 6 in both). that's why i think the regional tour idea is the best course. if she starts to play well there it is a very good measuring stick. judging your skill by the apa is tough due to the fluctuation in talent you face and the ever present sandbagging.
 
Hi Andrew,

This is Andy Lincoln. I've been involved with the local DC area regional pool tour for about 9 years. Planet-pool, Falcon, Tiger. Unfortunately, this year is kinda on hold but certainly playing the regional tours will be very beneficial to judge talent level.

I've seen and played many of the local ladies on our regional tour and have a good feel of their skill level. Sueyen Rhee, Pamela Treadway, My-Hanh Lac and now Ming Ng all played many tournaments with us on their way to the WPBA. I've also played Linda Shea who used to play top 20 WPBA.

All of these ladies have one thing in common. They've won numerous regional events.

Do I know your friend? You can PM me if you like and I'll let you know what I think.

Andy
 
Sam Waltz said:
I mention the gambling due to one aspect of professional play, supreme pressure! When you can shoot "your" game under the extreme conditions provided in most hardcore gambling sessions then you have developed your mental game and focus to a high enough level to play through the pressure and expectations that will be required on the tour.
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How do you explain Jasmin Ouschan - as i understand when asked if she gambles - she said she does not - and she handled the pressure in that 14.1 tournament against men - I understand Raymond Cuelemans did not gamble either - how do you explain his dominance in billiards for so many years - it might just seem that it depends on an individuals make up or how they react to competition.
 
I believe that Ralph Souquet has stated in print that he doesn't gamble. He certaintly has the focus, etc to play at the highest levels.
 
maldito said:
How do you explain Jasmin Ouschan - as i understand when asked if she gambles - she said she does not - and she handled the pressure in that 14.1 tournament against men - I understand Raymond Cuelemans did not gamble either - how do you explain his dominance in billiards for so many years - it might just seem that it depends on an individuals make up or how they react to competition.
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The will to win and hate to lose is enough for some people. But if you have a chance to hang around with and gamble cheap with top players you will get to the top much faster IF you have the natural talent to go with it. You can learn so much from hanging with top players. Some of the best thngs I evever learned from them were what shots NOT to shoot and learn to think 3 balls ahead so you don't need to use english to juice the ball to get back in line. Johnnyt
 
best advise you can give to her, is to play on 9ft tables, play 8ball and 9ball and straight pool......

If she can play well on a 9ft table, like a diamond and consistently run from the break 5 to 7 balls you'll do well on the WPBA tour's

learning lock up saftey's and being able to break well is a plus....
 
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