Having this endorsement from a player and person like Oscar is huge.
If Oscar says it, it is true. Can't wait for mine now and will give it a try at Hard Times in Sacramento.
Magic Ball Rack Introduction (Perfect Rack Everytime)
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Having this endorsement from a player and person like Oscar is huge.
If Oscar says it, it is true. Can't wait for mine now and will give it a try at Hard Times in Sacramento.
It sure looks like the WTB used the Magic Ball Rack. I'm sure it is. I've been using the MBR for @ 3 months. It was given to me as demo and it's still in great shape.
We leave it at the pool hall and many have used it or seen it for the first time. It's absolutely awesome. I'm so sick of bad racks or just "ok" racks. Having a perfect rack every time outweighs 50 times over the disadvantage of the periodic ball on the rack after the break or even far more rare - a miniscule roll off.
In the rare instance a ball rests on the rack after the break, I simply mark the ball. Llike in the US Open, where the ref forms a "V" with their thumb and index finger, moves it right up to the ball and leaves the hand there. Then you remove the ball with your other hand, then remove the rack, and then replace the ball. It takes 5 seconds. Ball placement integrity is not a factor.
ADVANTAGE > disadvantage
It's a no brainer. The best rack ever IMO.
We leave it at the pool hall and many have used it or seen it for the first time. It's absolutely awesome. I'm so sick of bad racks or just "ok" racks. Having a perfect rack every time outweighs 50 times over the disadvantage of the periodic ball on the rack after the break or even far more rare - a miniscule roll off.
In the rare instance a ball rests on the rack after the break, I simply mark the ball. Llike in the US Open, where the ref forms a "V" with their thumb and index finger, moves it right up to the ball and leaves the hand there. Then you remove the ball with your other hand, then remove the rack, and then replace the ball. It takes 5 seconds. Ball placement integrity is not a factor.
ADVANTAGE > disadvantage
It's a no brainer. The best rack ever IMO.
Carrying tube idea?
Troy,
How @ rolling these racks up and storing/carrying them in a tube? Something that can fit in a cue case will make the product more useable and will increase sales. What might happen to the rack if it were rolled up? Will it adopt to the rolled shape? Will the weight of balls during racking negate that?
Troy,
How @ rolling these racks up and storing/carrying them in a tube? Something that can fit in a cue case will make the product more useable and will increase sales. What might happen to the rack if it were rolled up? Will it adopt to the rolled shape? Will the weight of balls during racking negate that?
Do you have a website?, if not you should, you are missing out on the power of it. You might if your able to financially advertise on AZ Billiards with a banner as they are affordable or even on my site On The Rail www.ontherailtv.com . We get thousands of viewers watching pool for free there every month. :wink:
You sure?
Earlier in this thread Oscar explained that "this rack" (or probably something similar) was used in the Philippines Open. That tournament was in May. This thread started in September. Can you blame me for speculating that the Magic Ball Rack is simply a knockoff of the rack used in the Philippines Open (and the WTB)?
Now knockoff products happen all the time, and assuming no patent infringements occurred, then that's all fine and dandy. But the original poster claims that he "came up" with this idea. I would rather not send my money to someone claiming that an idea was his when it clearly was not.
But who knows, maybe the original poster came up with the idea first and the maker of the rack used in the WTB and Philippines Open ripped it off from him. Maybe the MBR really is the rack used at the Philippines Open and the WTB (though I'm curious as to why the original poster didn't advertise this fact in the OP). Or maybe the original poster coincidentally came up with the same idea completely independently from the other rack at about the same time.
Just looking for some answers, because I'm actually interested in the product.
Gosh, I dunno which came first jsp, the Invisible Rack which is black, or the MBR which is white. Obviously the one in use in that pic from the WTB with Mika stretched over the table, that's a MBR.
Having not tried the Invisible Rack, I sure can't say which is better. So when I said the MBR is "the best rack ever IMO", I should have said the best rack I ever used.
And if one of these entrepreneurs outright stole someone else's idea, that would not be cool.
Having not tried the Invisible Rack, I sure can't say which is better. So when I said the MBR is "the best rack ever IMO", I should have said the best rack I ever used.
And if one of these entrepreneurs outright stole someone else's idea, that would not be cool.
Ya. I video would help a lot.
my friends had the idea that the invisible rack is the real stuff which is invented firstly. and saying the MBR is the fake stuff. cuz the WTB is using the invisible rack(black). not sure about this though, but seems like the MBR is the true invention?
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f-50evolution; said:
Thanks for the interest in my product guys
mbr was tested extensivley in Asia before I even decided to launch in the US or European markets, I tried numerous different colors that's why you see different versions
I have taken players comments into consideration and the mbr will have a big launch in next coming weeks
roy
Tats good to hear. But they are using IR in WTB right?
Anyway I have this MBR and it's really good. Getting tight racks consistently
Anyway I have this MBR and it's really good. Getting tight racks consistently
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Not trying to ruin this guys sale thread, but just to educate the public. This Magic Ball Rack is not the same one as the one used in the WTB. The one used in the WTB is made in Japan and thinner, which means its less likely to affect ball rolls. But, I have not seen where to buy the ones made in Japan yet. The Japanese version is more of a film than paper. I have tried the Magic Ball Rack though, and is a very good rack. Plus, it seems like the Magic Ball Rack is much easier to acquire than the ones made in Japan.
yeah its diff. but i am nt sure in regards to being thinner than the MBR. being a film itself seems thick already haha. and yeah u can only get the IR through the newart website which is fully jap
Hi Guys
If you read through the posts for MBR, you will notice that I am the Canadian distributor of this product. I've been pretty low key with this for the past couple of months cause I wanted to be completely comfortable with what it is meant to do. I recently provided enough MBR's for a tournament at Strokers Billiards in London Onatrio which had 50 players regsitered. Guess what..... no arguements about bad racks, and 49 of the 50 palyers were pretty happy with the results which was to take away some of the bad elements of this game - arguements about the tightness of the balls and sharking on the break.
I currently have these MBR's in stock and am taking orders for the Canadian market.
Regards
Walter
If you read through the posts for MBR, you will notice that I am the Canadian distributor of this product. I've been pretty low key with this for the past couple of months cause I wanted to be completely comfortable with what it is meant to do. I recently provided enough MBR's for a tournament at Strokers Billiards in London Onatrio which had 50 players regsitered. Guess what..... no arguements about bad racks, and 49 of the 50 palyers were pretty happy with the results which was to take away some of the bad elements of this game - arguements about the tightness of the balls and sharking on the break.
I currently have these MBR's in stock and am taking orders for the Canadian market.
Regards
Walter
Sounds good. Probably we should sponsor some MBR in major tournament haha
Hrmmm... I think what you meant to say is that you improved the design on the Invisible rack. But there is a possibility you though of it first and just took a lot longer to just convert ideas into a product. Like many months later. But whatever the case is ... i've got the "original" product quite a few months ago, and it breaks fantastically! I have no doubt that this "replica" is just as good... and cheaper as well!
Good on ya mate for your innovation. :grin:
check this out. MBR is retailing at mezz website. http://mezzusa.com/index.php?main_p..._id=87&zenid=8bee8ee1012767971e40f314ab7979d0
Well, despite my doubts and the statements regarding the validity of the product, I'm proud to say that it works as stated on crappy pool tables here at the local MWR in Kandahar, Afghanistan. Can't say that I've ever seen such a tight rack like this, even on brand new equipment, with 860 installed. With every ball frozen to each other, the break is very unusual, in the manner that all the balls except the 9 (usually) fly around the table with even speed. To get the 9 ball to move, I have to use the cut break, with either bottom left or right, depending on which side I break on. One ball can be almost counted on to drop or come near the side pocket. After the break, we usually remove the paper rack from the table, the couple of times that we've left it on the table during play a ball ran across and was deflected enough to either miss or change the direction of an object ball. Overall, I'm impressed with it, whether it's original or not, makes no difference to me, it works and all the top players here really like it. If the op decides to come up with a fifteen ball version, I'd be glad to test it out. Thanks!