Making the corner ball in Straight pool

leaguedude

leaguedude

Elio D'Andrea
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Hi all,

Stumbled over this shot today in my practice. I briefly tried searching the site for anything similar. Anyways, I got bad on my break ball and missed the break up. So, I long banked the corner ball. Again, no sure if this has been documented before but here it is. CB is struck at 12:15. Check it out let me know what you think. 1 min long video


http://www.poolvids.com/view/57/making-the-corner-ball-in-straight-pool/
 
I got the chance to try this today (unfortunately! :) ). I didn't make it - how full are you hitting the OB? My shot wasn't even close!
 
md5key said:
I got the chance to try this today (unfortunately! :) ). I didn't make it - how full are you hitting the OB? My shot wasn't even close!
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Hit the object ball as full as possible using top with half tip inside english.
 
Nice shot. This shot is well-documented, and much older than I am.

My personal favorite "rack shot" is to kick behind the corner ball and send the head ball 2 rails into the side pocket on the opening break. It's not as big a flier as one would think on good equipment. If you make it, you start your run on an open table and it rattles the hell out of your opponent.

Dave
 
leaguedude said:
Hi all,

Stumbled over this shot today in my practice. I briefly tried searching the site for anything similar. Anyways, I got bad on my break ball and missed the break up. So, I long banked the corner ball. Again, no sure if this has been documented before but here it is. CB is struck at 12:15. Check it out let me know what you think. 1 min long video


http://www.poolvids.com/view/57/making-the-corner-ball-in-straight-pool/
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Yeah, that shot is as old as the hills. For the right corner ball, you use high left and for the left corner ball, high right. It goes, but it's not a cinch. I personally would never use it in a regular game, only if I was horsing around and desperate to keep a run going.
 
SpiderWebComm said:
Nice shot. This shot is well-documented, and much older than I am.

My personal favorite "rack shot" is to kick behind the corner ball and send the head ball 2 rails into the side pocket on the opening break. It's not as big a flier as one would think on good equipment. If you make it, you start your run on an open table and it rattles the hell out of your opponent.

Dave
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hmmm. very interesting shot there. Geez i just realized how little I know about this game. Do you think you could make a little video of that shot being made sometime? Would be cool to have some of these advanced shots on file for future reference on poolvids. Also great job on the Joe T instructional video. OOOOOOOdles of knowledge there.
 
SpiderWebComm said:
Nice shot. This shot is well-documented, and much older than I am.

My personal favorite "rack shot" is to kick behind the corner ball and send the head ball 2 rails into the side pocket on the opening break. It's not as big a flier as one would think on good equipment. If you make it, you start your run on an open table and it rattles the hell out of your opponent.

Dave
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Would this be considered legal? You have to get object balls plus the CB to hit the rail on the opening break.
 
Chris_Lynch said:
Would this be considered legal? You have to get object balls plus the CB to hit the rail on the opening break.
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As long as you call that ball, it is a legal opening break. The requirements are either 2OB+CB to a rail, or make a called shot.

My favourite "missed the rack" shot is from behind the stack, sending the wing ball one rail cross side. I can probably make it about 30% of the time if in optimal position. I wouldn't do it in a real match tho, unless i was close to beating my high run (which isn't that high anyways).

These specialty shots are pretty well documented in 14.1 books (like Phil Capelle's)

My cuetable skills are pretty feeble, & I don't recall exactly where on the long rail the OB contacts, but looks something like this. You hit the wing ball as full as you can without hitting the 6, speed is important, and I think it rubs off the 13 ball, narrowing the path so it doesn't miss on the far side of the pocket. I usually use a little inside english IIRC. It also depends based on the pos of the CB.

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SpiderWebComm said:
Totally legal. You decide. How would you like winning the lag, making someone break, and then fading this opening?


http://www.poolvids.com/view/60/2rail-14.1-opener/


Dave
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You're correct that it's legal. I bet there are a lot of people that don't know that. Maybe if Corey plays in the World 14.1 Championships next year he'll figure out a way to break and run out on opponents. Wouldn't that be something?
 
i'm not real good with the cuetable

so i hope this came out.

i am surprised these shots have not been discussed before as most people i know have been using them for quite a few years.

even i have been shooting these for around 40yrs.

here is another "low percentage" shot i have been known to take a flier at.

M.C.

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leaguedude said:
Hi all,

Stumbled over this shot today in my practice. I briefly tried searching the site for anything similar. Anyways, I got bad on my break ball and missed the break up. So, I long banked the corner ball. Again, no sure if this has been documented before but here it is. CB is struck at 12:15. Check it out let me know what you think. 1 min long video


http://www.poolvids.com/view/57/making-the-corner-ball-in-straight-pool/
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Like the other posters have said this is certainly a shot that has been around for awhile. However, while it is certainly an option, in my opinion it is certainly not a high percentage shot. It may be ok for practice of even against a weaker player, but against a 100 ball or even a consistant 50 ball runner, a safty is your best bet.

Take care
 
curlyscues said:
so i hope this came out.

i am surprised these shots have not been discussed before as most people i know have been using them for quite a few years.

even i have been shooting these for around 40yrs.

here is another "low percentage" shot i have been known to take a flier at.

M.C.\
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I usually have better luck with that shot if the cue ball is a bit higher up
 
manwon said:
Like the other posters have said this is certainly a shot that has been around for awhile. However, while it is certainly an option, in my opinion it is certainly not a high percentage shot. It may be ok for practice of even against a weaker player, but against a 100 ball or even a consistant 50 ball runner, a safty is your best bet.

Take care
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I agree. I would almost never try this in a serious game. It's a low percentage shot. I've known people to practice this shot often, only to miss it by a huge margin in even casual competition.
 
Chris_Lynch said:
Would this be considered legal? You have to get object balls plus the CB to hit the rail on the opening break.
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Definitely legal. If you're hitting the stack hard enough for that head ball to go up table 2 cushions into the side pocket you're going to get quite a few balls getting to a rail. Only thing is that the cue ball may not get a rail so you would definitely have to call the shot beforehand or it would be a foul.
MULLY
 
This is a shot that a couple of times went in when I was playing a weaker player, but I think it's a 5-8% shot :grin: :rolleyes:

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I think I've seen this also in a video on youtube...
 
curlyscues said:
so i hope this came out.

i am surprised these shots have not been discussed before as most people i know have been using them for quite a few years.

even i have been shooting these for around 40yrs.

here is another "low percentage" shot i have been known to take a flier at.

M.C.

CueTable Help

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From there I like hitting the two ball and making the ten in the corner. I haven't tried your shot but I will give it a try.
 
alstl said:
From there I like hitting the two ball and making the ten in the corner. I haven't tried your shot but I will give it a try.
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that shot is actualy a bit of a throw shot. the throw creates the proper angle to go crossside.

it's a low percentage shot but shooting the low percentage shots when just screwing around will teach you things you can use in other situations.

M.C.
 
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