There are those that wish we still lived in the 90's -- where the racks were loose, the spreads were random, and the 9-ball flying into one of the bottom corner pockets was treated as a nearly miraculous shot instead of the result of a loose rack.
Making the wingball everytime
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I have never played Corey Deuel so I wouldn't know first hand. What I do know is Buddy Hall and Grady Matthews, on separate occasions, said that he was right in front of me.
Joe Tucker states flat out in his book that he is providing the information to call out the cheaters and make people aware of what to look for so they don't get cheated. Not to tell people how to cheat.
If you weren't thinking it may be cheating, why did you even bother to post on here at all?
I guess you wanted everyone to agree with you and then, when that wasn't the case, you started making excuses for it.
If you are such a breaking expert and so worried about a perfect rack or lack of one, then why aren't you using the Magic Rack or the Accu-Rack?
Is it because you won't have an advantage anymore?
Flip_dat_Quarta
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Yes, that is the reason. If everyone uses the magic there is no advantage. Just like if you are good a jumping you will decide that jumping is allowed. Or if you a very good safe player you will decide on the 3 foul rule. I try to get the edge anyway I can, who wouldn't??
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What?!? You clearly did not read his book. He shows how to slug rack, only for the reason of showing what to look out for. Other than that, he is explaining which balls are the "correct balls to freeze" to ensure that your opponent gives you a good rack. And then he goes on to talk about the correct breaking location to get the wing ball to fall. You are so misinformed...
I don't try to get any advantage except my playing ability.
If it were up to me, I'd outlaw jump cues, too.
I'd also outlaw the 3-foul rule and go back to playing, two foul push-out.
To each their own, I guess.
Maybe we can put pockets that open and close every two seconds and you have to time your shot exactly. We can make pool into putt-putt or some other game.
Yeah right. I have everything he ever published on the subject including his DVDs and I never read or watched any of it. Got it.
We're done talking.
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That's kinda like how they sell pipes at every gas station and they are labeled " for tobacco use only " lol.
I'm kind of on the fence about this racking though. I personally don't know how to dick the rack so that does put me at a disadvantage playing someone who does but I do believe it to be a skill of sorts though. I think once racked no one should be allowed to touch the rack period - as in everyone that massages the one after rack is lifted. I also think it's oponents right to inspect each rack and demand a rerack if he thinks it's unsatisfactory. What about the Sardo? Wasn't that supposed to give a perfect, tight rack everytime? I am not a fan of the templates for several reasons one of which is when they have to be left on the table after play begins. I know a lot of people say this isn't so but I honestly believe it could affect a slow rolled ball. This may not come up that often but with my luck it would be hill hill for a G and I would be the one slow rolling the ball
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Well then why would you make such an incorrect statement?
Assuming the spot is on perfect, would the wing ball be more likely to go into the corner pocket if the 1-Ball is racked just a hair high or a hair low relative to the spot?
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Flip_dat_Quarta
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You have to adjust the break speed to account for any vertical displacement from the spot. The wing ball still goes.
100% cheating. If whoever is breaking knows that a speific ball will go into a speciific hole then its cheating. The break is and was not designed to know what is going where. If I'm playing rack your own and my opponent makes it 3 times in a row then it will no longer be rack your own. If they don't like it, I pull up.
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Ok, so what happens when I make the wing ball three times in a row when you're racking? Is that cheating too?
I'll play you ALL DAY, EVERY DAY where I rack and we can bet you don't make it.
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Ill take that bet as long as i can make u rerack until i like it
Then you would be the one cheating...
If you give a good rack, the wing ball goes every time.. Knowing what gaps can be allowed, and still make the wing ball, is not cheating, despite what you think. You are 100% wrong in this argument.
Knowledge of how to cheat and doing it is cheating.
So you should be able to quote rules that say it's against the rules to try to get a tight rack and to understand how to make the wing ball go in the corner.