Man is this guy on ebay mis-informed

By the way. Since I know a lot of people will be viewing this thread. Where can I find information on the Willie Mosconi series made by Joss? I think they made the same amount as his high run which was what? 526? This one is numbered 253. I searched the net but couldn't find anything. I wrote Joss but nothing back yet. Any help or info would be great.

Thanks,
Josh Hillard
 
Joss made (2) of the Mosconi commemorative cues....one being numbered to 526 to commemorate his record high-run and the other I believe was limited to 82, his age.
 
ragbug74 said:
Joss made (2) of the Mosconi commemorative cues....one being numbered to 526 to commemorate his record high-run and the other I believe was limited to 82, his age.
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Where can I find information on the series that goes to his high run? I'm looking for the value on the one numbered 253.

Thanks,
Josh Hillard
 
I'm not sure if there is any definite source for info for these cues, I know of them because I know someone who has a few of each model and I picked up a used one a few years back.

Unless you have a "key" number such as a low number or #526, the individual number probably won't add to the value. You see them on eBay occasionally. I think used ones generally go for $250.00 and up, depending on condition. They originally came with 2 shafts, a black leather-like pouch soft case, and a certificate of authenticity signed by Dan Janes and Flora Mosconi.

Search completed auctions on eBay and there were a few of the more limited model up for auction recently. BTW, the more limited cue was numbered to 80, not 82 as I previously posted.
 
Unless you have a "key" number such as a low number or #526, the individual number probably won't add to the value. You see them on eBay occasionally. I think used ones generally go for $250.00 and up, depending on condition. They originally came with 2 shafts, a black leather-like pouch soft case, and a certificate of authenticity signed by Dan Janes and Flora Mosconi.


I looked on eBay in completed listings and found this one for $1500. Item number: 230094269438. This is number 11 out of 80 I think it was. I was speaking of the other series which went up to 526 I think and this one is number 253. Not sure where you got $250? This has a letter and all that with it.
 
He probably picked it up in a garage sale for $.50 after haggling down from $2.00.
 
There were (2) different cues produced.....the run of 80 cues were 2-3 times more expensive than the 526 run. The 80-run cues are usually priced from several hundred up. The 526-run cues are usually between $250.00 and several hundred, but not as much as the 80-run cues. Both series of cues came with the letter of authenticity you saw in the eBay listing.
 
Mosconi

There were actually 3 different cues in the 526 run type. They were distributed by Crystal Liesure and made by Joss. If you need more help finding more info. don't bother with CL or Joss they are both the least helpful of any company I've ever dealt with. I happened to meet a former employee of Crystal that filled me in. I own 1 model, the number doesn't seem to matter. They sell for $700 and up, in new condition. Taking offers on mine, if any one is interested. Those that play with them say they are great players. Jossfull.jpg
 
From a Gates Billiards catalog in 1997
JWM 80 available for 2250
JWM 526 available for 495
There is alsosome thing about CRYSTAL in the pics
 
Nine Ball said:
By the way. Since I know a lot of people will be viewing this thread. Where can I find information on the Willie Mosconi series made by Joss? I think they made the same amount as his high run which was what? 526? This one is numbered 253. I searched the net but couldn't find anything. I wrote Joss but nothing back yet. Any help or info would be great.

Thanks,
Josh Hillard
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I don't have the Joss version, but this Helmstetter Commorative AH-10 version had a retail of around $800-900. I always liked this cue, so I bought it a few years ago and have it put away. Mine is #14 of 526. Joe

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rodcar said:
There were actually 3 different cues in the 526 run type. They were distributed by Crystal Liesure and made by Joss. If you need more help finding more info. don't bother with CL or Joss they are both the least helpful of any company I've ever dealt with. I happened to meet a former employee of Crystal that filled me in. I own 1 model, the number doesn't seem to matter. They sell for $700 and up, in new condition. Taking offers on mine, if any one is interested. Those that play with them say they are great players.View attachment 37378
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Requests for more photos. Will start new thread,WillieButt.jpg

WillieForarm.jpg here's a couple pics.
 
Only 526 made

Nine Ball said:
Unless you have a "key" number such as a low number or #526, the individual number probably won't add to the value. You see them on eBay occasionally. I think used ones generally go for $250.00 and up, depending on condition. They originally came with 2 shafts, a black leather-like pouch soft case, and a certificate of authenticity signed by Dan Janes and Flora Mosconi.


I looked on eBay in completed listings and found this one for $1500. Item number: 230094269438. This is number 11 out of 80 I think it was. I was speaking of the other series which went up to 526 I think and this one is number 253. Not sure where you got $250? This has a letter and all that with it.
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In no way is 526 of one cue going to qualify it as a "rare" cue! Espescialy one thats new enough that they are still all in circulation, and look like all the cues made by the same mass producer more or less. I know cue makers who make many different cues, but it would take them seven or eight years to produce five hundred and twenty six cues TOTAL, much less all the same model! And yes you see people asking, but not getting silly high prices for them. But they trade hands in the 250-350 range generaly.
 
He sure is on a dream trip..dreaming of that price and dreaming that he will attract a customer with those awful pics..:eek:
 
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