man witnessed sad action last night - 2 idiots in a pool room

I get the "buttinski" comment, but the general tenor of the comments against the OP suggest that many don't see any problem with lying and cheating (in the sense used to describe what the OP said he did) as long as it is in a gambling situation. In other words, he "hustled" - and that's considered okay and his action should not be knocked.
Thank you sir
 
when i saw 2 idiots witnessed in pool hall last night

I was thinking it must have been a slow night
 
I didn't ask for no permission. Guy A was asking the owner something, I'm guessing permission to play me or maybe to pause guy B's table time. Owner ok'd it with a nod. No idea what movie you're talking about.




I played all over back then to get better - anybody on any table. House rules at this dive were if your song was up you left your table ( in the middle of the shot ), opponent went outside to smoke or grabbed a drink - I was not breaking house rules. That night though was super slow so it was especially okay for me to do a song between games. The thugs probably rolled in during my song - it was a really slow night.

Right....and there just happened to be no one at the table waiting on you to finish your song, so when the "THUGS" walked in, they saw an empty table with no one around to tell them you were in the middle of a game, and as soon as you finished singing to the crowd of people in the bar, you would be right back to play....... right?
 
I would have been all right with this post if the title was ," I saw an opportunity to steal 100 dollars last night. Then made sure I got plenty of weight, so I couldn't dog it."
Everything else is ridiculous.
You're the good guy in the story?
 
You're the good guy in the story?

Jesus. No. It's irrelevant if I'm good or bad. The entire point I was trying to make with the original post: couldn't believe a guy would drop that many games at $50 each and want to keep going. My speed forced guy A to play better and guy B could see it with his own eyes. Why in the world would he want to keep going after our race - no idea. Also when "you're in it", especially if you're a weak player it's hard to see if you have a chance or not so I'm not blaming him. I knew he had no chance and it made it painful to watch. Thought the story was worth sharing, didn't come here to get judged.

Also was shocked that guy B actually gave me games on the wire that easily. I've never really hustled anyone before and was really surprised how easy it was to ask for weight and get it ( I was really expecting to play him even ) - just stroke his ego a little bit and when he uses outside english to go 2 cushions to get shape just say "wow" and voila.
 
Also was shocked that guy B actually gave me games on the wire that easily. I've never really hustled anyone before and was really surprised how easy it was to ask for weight and get it ( I was really expecting to play him even ) - just stroke his ego a little bit and when he uses outside english to go 2 cushions to get shape just say "wow" and voila.


Any chance guy B gave you weight and lost in order to prove to guy A that he can be beaten and cement the hook in him?


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We are gonna just have to disagree, same old song and dance that comes up frequently and clearly there are two entrenched sides.Couple things we all should agree on, most times if you go in and kill someone's action like that you are gonna have a problem on you're hands.Could've been people betting on the rail. As I've said before, being able to gauge speed is more important than actually how you play. Dude was paying his dues on his way to getting better - most of us have. Lastly, pool needs money infused from somewhere otherwise what are we gonna have left? Money has to come from somewhere and it sure ain't like it was back in the day.Everyone's dead, in jail, or whatever but it just isn't there like it used to be.

It was some years ago and I lost around $500 at $5 and $10 a game a bet that would be close to $50 a game today. The last thing I wanted was to have someone come and try and save me. I learned so much from that experience and if someone would have attempted to deprive me of that experience I would have told them to mind their own business I am going to beat this guy. The best policy may be to mind your own business.
 
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I get the "buttinski" comment, but the general tenor of the comments against the OP suggest that many don't see any problem with lying and cheating (in the sense used to describe what the OP said he did) as long as it is in a gambling situation. In other words, he "hustled" - and that's considered okay and his action should not be knocked.

Not to me or any person with a shred of decency. The OP was a thief,pure and simple. With a huge streak of self-righteously justifying himself for his actions.
 
Over the years my game has improved and I've lost to certain people then stayed away from them and practiced and got stronger and eventually played them again and destroyed them. I have a few examples I can remember off the top of my head. If you saw us play the first time I would appear to be In a bad game, if you saw us play the second time my opponent would be In the bad game. Would it be fair for you to not know any history or past results and come up to my opponent and inform him he has no chance to win and make him pull up? To me one instant benefit of getting better is going back to play guys that used to whip up on me after months or years of practice and gaining experience and playing them the same game only to reverse the outcome and destroy them. In my experience they usually lose less money then they won because they can tell right away I'm a different player. But again I would be very annoyed if I was in this situation and some random person for no reason came up and stopped the game. It's never happened to me but I assure u had I been the guy who improved and came back to win only to get knocked my opportunity I'd be more than mad. Not saying this is the way the ops story actually went but for u to step into two grown men's game for no reason and with no knowledge of what's going on is very foolish and just innapropriate.
 
Over the years my game has improved and I've lost to certain people then stayed away from them and practiced and got stronger and eventually played them again and destroyed them. I have a few examples I can remember off the top of my head. If you saw us play the first time I would appear to be In a bad game, if you saw us play the second time my opponent would be In the bad game. Would it be fair for you to not know any history or past results and come up to my opponent and inform him he has no chance to win and make him pull up? To me one instant benefit of getting better is going back to play guys that used to whip up on me after months or years of practice and gaining experience and playing them the same game only to reverse the outcome and destroy them. In my experience they usually lose less money then they won because they can tell right away I'm a different player. But again I would be very annoyed if I was in this situation and some random person for no reason came up and stopped the game. It's never happened to me but I assure u had I been the guy who improved and came back to win only to get knocked my opportunity I'd be more than mad. Not saying this is the way the ops story actually went but for u to step into two grown men's game for no reason and with no knowledge of what's going on is very foolish and just inappropriate.

What are you talking about. I didn't "stop" anybody. Both are grown men. Guy A could have said "No". We both asked guy B if it was cool for us to squeeze in a quick race - he had a chance to say "No". The owner was there and could have said "No". I didn't force anybody into anything. If guy A used to lose to B and was now getting his money back ( seriously doubt that was the case ) he should have asked me to come back another night, it's that simple. All I did was give guy B AN OPPORTUNITY to quit if he wanted to. Turns out he didn't want to. To me that was idiotic hence the title but it's his money he can do whatever he wants. In other news my break cue got stolen last night ( right before my trip to Vegas :/ ) so I'm not in the best of moods, apologies if I'm a little "dense" right now.

Also guy A could have easily been hiding his true speed while still beating guy B so I could have easily lost. My eyes were telling me it wasn't risky but you never know. Plenty of people can destroy me on the pool table even with games on the wire, like I said I'm nowhere near pro speed; I don't break and run nearly often enough to be playing for big bucks.
 
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Jesus. No. It's irrelevant if I'm good or bad. The entire point I was trying to make with the original post: couldn't believe a guy would drop that many games at $50 each and want to keep going. My speed forced guy A to play better and guy B could see it with his own eyes. Why in the world would he want to keep going after our race - no idea. Also when "you're in it", especially if you're a weak player it's hard to see if you have a chance or not so I'm not blaming him. I knew he had no chance and it made it painful to watch. Thought the story was worth sharing, didn't come here to get judged.

Also was shocked that guy B actually gave me games on the wire that easily. I've never really hustled anyone before and was really surprised how easy it was to ask for weight and get it ( I was really expecting to play him even ) - just stroke his ego a little bit and when he uses outside english to go 2 cushions to get shape just say "wow" and voila.


First you played guy A but now Guy B gave you games on the wire??? Quote below, and directly above. This story keeps getting stranger and stranger.


Guy A had his student there hanging out. So I dragged the student to another table and raced him to 2. I "lost" both games. Then I go back to the main table and start whining - I wanna get in! please race me to 5 for 500! I'm gonna need some weight though. To my shock guy A without negotiating just straight up offers me 3 games on the wire in a race to 5 ( he already knew his student "beat" me ). Wow. What an idiot. ( I'm nowhere near pro speed but significantly better than both guy A and guy B. Unfortunately he only wanted to race for a 100 since he didn't know me. Fine. I wasn't looking for action, I hate gambling - just wanted to stop the bleeding. Guy B lets us race on his table, I easily beat guy A. Take my 100. Guy A says next time we play without handicap. I go sure. Then the idiot guy B just can't wait to get back to the table. He wants to keep playing guy A!! What an idiot. That was his chance to say he's tired. Did you just not witness a guy on a totally different level than you? What are you doing. go home. ( I didn't say that ). I went home. They kept playing. I'm guessing guy B ended up dropping a few thousand.
 
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Sorry if I'm wrong but is anyone else's bs meter pegging? I thought it was extremely weird the way it was initially said to go down but know I'm really scratching my head.
 
What are you talking about. I didn't "stop" anybody. Both are grown men. Guy A could have said "No". We both asked guy B if it was cool for us to squeeze in a quick race - he had a chance to say "No". The owner was there and could have said "No". I didn't force anybody into anything. If guy A used to lose to B and was now getting his money back ( seriously doubt that was the case ) he should have asked me to come back another night, it's that simple. All I did was give guy B AN OPPORTUNITY to quit if he wanted to. Turns out he didn't want to. To me that was idiotic hence the title but it's his money he can do whatever he wants. In other news my break cue got stolen last night ( right before my trip to Vegas :/ ) so I'm not in the best of moods, apologies if I'm a little "dense" right now.

Also guy A could have easily been hiding his true speed while still beating guy B so I could have easily lost. My eyes were telling me it wasn't risky but you never know. Plenty of people can destroy me on the pool table even with games on the wire, like I said I'm nowhere near pro speed; I don't break and run nearly often enough to be playing for big bucks.

What do you mean you gave him the opportunity to quit ? He could have quit at any point he wanted from after game 1 until game 100 or whatever it was.

" Breaking news " - guy a took your stick for knocking his action!
 
No no no. I never played guy B. Meant opportunity for guy B to quit donating to guy A. They werent racing nor playing x ahead they were playing $50 a game. That break should have made him think.

Also meant guy A could have beat me - I wasnt stealing, I was very confident going in but anything can happen in a short race. He also could have been hiding his true speed so I could have lost.
 
Like I said I wasn't saying that ur situation was the same as the one I was describing but to me if I don't know the guys playing I'd never interfere for any reason and I simply gave just one reason as to why but there's a million others. I wasn't saying anything to u sorry if it appeared like that but to me I'm not gonna get into two peoples business especially if I don't know them. And like I said many times I've lost to guys having a bad day couldn't win a set then came back n beat their brains in n I know I sure wouldn't want someone interfering but anyway sorry to hear about ur break cue that sucks. But chances are u can get a good deal on one while in Vegas n good luck while ur out there who knows maybe u will win some money and get a brand new break cue. Just don't get In any good games chances are karma will set In n someone will step in n try to help ur opponent to save his money lollolol. Seriously have fun I wish I was going to vegas
 
When someone is losing their money, let em. The lesson is more valuable when your mom does not come in and tell you its a bad idea. How you do not understand this speaks volumes.
 
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