Market cooled !!!

I Don't Think That Over 1800 For A Conversion Cue Shows That The Market Cooled. There Are Only A Few Makers Out There That Bring This Kind Of Money For A Conversion Cue, Ecspecially Considering That One Of The Shafts Is A Toothpick.

I Will Also Say That Although I Really Like Dennis' Work, And I Really Like Dennis As A Person, I Personally Wouldn't Lay Out This Kind Of Cash For This Cue.
 
FAST_N_LOOSE said:
I Don't Think That Over 1800 For A Conversion Cue Shows That The Market Cooled. There Are Only A Few Makers Out There That Bring This Kind Of Money For A Conversion Cue, Ecspecially Considering That One Of The Shafts Is A Toothpick.

I Will Also Say That Although I Really Like Dennis' Work, And I Really Like Dennis As A Person, I Personally Wouldn't Lay Out This Kind Of Cash For This Cue.

what happen to the capslock?:rolleyes: :confused:
 
agree with fast and loose.basically the guy is paying $1800 for the name and two shafts.he may not realize it is a conversion cue.i wouldn't give $1000 for it unless i had the bad intentione to sell it off as a real dennis searing(not a conversion)
 
I also agree with F and L. This looks like one of Dennis' earlier sneaky pete cues and it is one of the reasons why he won't make a sneaky pete anymore (other than no time!). If the cue was a full custom 4 point w/veneer cue in excellent or better condition I believe it would fetch at least $3500.00.

Because of the meticulous build quality and 3-4 year waiting list, I don't see any market cooling in sight for Searing cues. Rather, I believe that his cues are destined to be regarded in the same light as George Balabushka and Gus Szamboti cues with upward drifting secondary market pricing.

Martin



FAST_N_LOOSE said:
I Don't Think That Over 1800 For A Conversion Cue Shows That The Market Cooled. There Are Only A Few Makers Out There That Bring This Kind Of Money For A Conversion Cue, Ecspecially Considering That One Of The Shafts Is A Toothpick.

I Will Also Say That Although I Really Like Dennis' Work, And I Really Like Dennis As A Person, I Personally Wouldn't Lay Out This Kind Of Cash For This Cue.
 
FAST_N_LOOSE said:
I Don't Think That Over 1800 For A Conversion Cue Shows That The Market Cooled. There Are Only A Few Makers Out There That Bring This Kind Of Money For A Conversion Cue, Ecspecially Considering That One Of The Shafts Is A Toothpick.

I Will Also Say That Although I Really Like Dennis' Work, And I Really Like Dennis As A Person, I Personally Wouldn't Lay Out This Kind Of Cash For This Cue.

Thanks for educating me ,I didnt realize it was a conversion cue,basically assumed anything with searing on it was gold. I was going to hit it with a bid but figured there must have been a reason for it not jumping up there at the end.As far as the skinny shaft,it must have been a players cue,13mm really isnt the most desirable size for shooters. 13mm great for collectors and basically says the shafts haven't been messed with but most play with a slimmer shaft IMO. Thanks Marcus
 
cuedoctor said:
Thanks for educating me ,I didnt realize it was a conversion cue,basically assumed anything with searing on it was gold. I was going to hit it with a bid but figured there must have been a reason for it not jumping up there at the end.As far as the skinny shaft,it must have been a players cue,13mm really isnt the most desirable size for shooters. 13mm great for collectors and basically says the shafts haven't been messed with but most play with a slimmer shaft IMO. Thanks Marcus
If it a true Searing blank, routinely the forearm would be signed and dated.
For all other cues (conversions, SP's, and other blanks), there is only the logo in the butt.
 
Either way...

alpine9430 said:
If it a true Searing blank, routinely the forearm would be signed and dated.
For all other cues (conversions, SP's, and other blanks), there is only the logo in the butt.

Either way its way over-priced especially with lopsided points.
 
I am on his list

His cues really are competatively priced. But a couple hurricains have put him a little behind.What gets me is a sweet new players cue with 2 shafts is roughly 2/3 the cost of what that cue brought.
Nick
 
cuedoctor said:
Thanks for educating me ,I didnt realize it was a conversion cue,basically assumed anything with searing on it was gold. I was going to hit it with a bid but figured there must have been a reason for it not jumping up there at the end.As far as the skinny shaft,it must have been a players cue,13mm really isnt the most desirable size for shooters. 13mm great for collectors and basically says the shafts haven't been messed with but most play with a slimmer shaft IMO. Thanks Marcus



I play with full 13's...... and I take the shaft diameter into major consideration before a purchase. All the top players in my town play with a 12.75 or 13mm tip. FWIW

Tony
 
the anti capps thing is a modification that they can do the forum so people dont post in all capps.. its pretty neat actually.. but i wouldnt know why it works sometimes and not others.. weird..

chris
 
A Searing cue is better than money in the bank. I believe that Searing cues will continue to increase in value. Dennis' attention to detail and absolute dedication to building the highest quality cue he possibly can. He builds each cue with the same quality no matter what the price of the cue. Dennis loves building cues and it shows.

No, the market hasn't cooled.
 
Talk about beating a old horse to death!

this is starting to turn into a thread about searing cues and its about market trends so let close it,marcus has answer me about the difference in levels of dennis's cues and if its a conversion then the price was decent. The thread was more about the market especially with summer arriving and pool slowing down.
 
You really think so?

HIRUN526 said:
A Searing cue is better than money in the bank. I believe that Searing cues will continue to increase in value. Dennis' attention to detail and absolute dedication to building the highest quality cue he possibly can. He builds each cue with the same quality no matter what the price of the cue. Dennis loves building cues and it shows.

No, the market hasn't cooled.

I think there is a bubble and that cue pricing will go down. Too many good cuemakers out there and the prices are out of line.

Searing is highly regarded, but is not bala or Szam, trust me.

It is like a 60's musclecar and a new musclecar.

The old ones will increase in value because of rarity and significance, these new ones will not increase in the same way.

Sorry but just wont happen.

Ken
 
Ken_4fun said:
I think there is a bubble and that cue pricing will go down. Too many good cuemakers out there and the prices are out of line.

Searing is highly regarded, but is not bala or Szam, trust me.

It is like a 60's musclecar and a new musclecar.

The old ones will increase in value because of rarity and significance, these new ones will not increase in the same way.

Sorry but just wont happen.

Ken

I'm not quite sure why you threw in that comment about Dennis.

In my opinion Gus Szamboti is the greatest cuemaker followed by Frank Paradise. I don't see why there won't be rarity and significance with Searing cues, they are highly sought after because of their quality and playability and with very limited production. I don't knew the future, but "trust me" Searing is no passing fad. We all love different cues for many reasons and we as collectors buy the cues we think will not only increase in value, but also ones that we love by the way they look and/or play.

As far as pricing being out of line, I don't think so. The workmanship of todays top cuemakers keeps getting better and better ( heck, the workmanship is amazing) the design work is limitless. Every new cue I buy I feel like I got a great value for my money and pleased to have spent the money. There are several cuemakers today that will be the future Bushka's and Szamboti's for their era.

You are right there are some really great cuemakers out there and I'm real happy about that, that means I can keep on buying more and more cues....Life is good!!

Just my thoughts.
 
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