Mass Shooting At Maine Pool Hall & Bowling Alley

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Bad guys or crazy guys or guys having a bad day or drunk guys or suicidal guys (or women or children)…
with guns.

pj
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Did you know cars can be and have been used as weapons? If guns were removed we would be talking about the next easiest tool for killing. We have a people problem that needs to be fixed, until something is done about that we will continue to talk about mass killings. If the politicians really wanted to reduce gun crime we would have some gun laws with teeth about felons carrying guns.
 
We were sucessful at keeping the casualties at a min back in the 60s because these idiots were just using standard low cap rifles. Dumping a few million ARs out there was the biggest mistake we ever made.
Back in the 60's one could buy war used rifles including semi automatic weapons (AR means nothing when it comes right down to it, its the media that made them "a thing") I think the mistakes lie with the government and media. This crap with CRT, racism, inclusion, letting men in the girls restroom, etc is where society is becoming unhinged. People acting like they were wronged somehow because they need to wear shoes in a place serving food is the normal and everything escalates from there. The fact that we could bring guns to school in the 70's and there were no school shootings kinda points towards people and not guns being the problem. I take comfort in the fact that my neighbors have guns and know how to use them, I hear them sighting their rifles and practicing every time a new hunting season arrives. The world wont see the "peaceful protests" that had looting, burning businesses, beatings, and even murders that were going on a few years ago in my neighborhood, BLM, Antifa, and all other terrorists will need to find other areas to prey on. Lets not forget that there were government leaders on TV encouraging the terrorists to "not let up". These are the people in our government running our country and some of you continue to vote for that, like I said, the USA has a people problem.
 
I'm not sure I understand. You confronted gangsters that wanted to take over your business, but you 'NEVER EVER' pointed a gun at them?
I think this story is in Pool Wars. Anyway two guys came into my poolroom in Bakersfield, both wearing suits (1970's). One stayed at the bar and the other one came over to where I was standing by the cash register. He introduced himself and told me in so many words that he had an insurance offer for me. I told him I had insurance and he said not my kind of insurance. He then asked me if there was ever any trouble in there and I told him only a little bit once in a while. He said that he and his partner could make sure nothing ever happened in there again. I was now beginning to catch on what he was up to.

I can't remember now the whole conversation but he went on to add that it would only cost me 100 a week for each of them to handle this "problem." I got it now. So I paused a bit and told him I had to talk to my partner. I reached down under the cash register and pulled out my snub nose S&W .38. I held it by my side, along my leg and walked out from behind the counter, where he could see me. I looked him straight in the eye and told him that we were not interested in his offer. He looked down and saw the gun. He looked at me and said nothing. Then he turned and walked back to get his partner and they left. I called the cops and they sent out a detective that I knew well. I told him what happened and he informed me that these same guys had been collecting from several local businesses in downtown Bakersfield for some time now.

This was a very different time in my life. I had struggled as a pool player for the last five or six years. All I wanted was my own poolroom and now I finally had it. My whole life was invested in that poolroom. Someone would literally have to kill me to take it away! That was exactly how I felt at that moment. I never saw or heard from those guys again. I found out that the cops drove them out of Bakersfield sometime later. 1970's Bakersfield was kind of the wild west. The police ruled but bad guys were all around. Many of them were my customers and many "bad guys" came into my poolroom (some cops too when off duty). It was kind of a neutral zone in town. I liked it just that way, kind of kept the peace in there. In six years we only had two or three fights early on until I got things straightened out (you fight in there, you get 86'd). After that I may have had one serious fight during the next five and half years.
 
Back in the 60's one could buy war used rifles including semi automatic weapons (AR means nothing when it comes right down to it, its the media that made them "a thing") I think the mistakes lie with the government and media. This crap with CRT, racism, inclusion, letting men in the girls restroom, etc is where society is becoming unhinged. People acting like they were wronged somehow because they need to wear shoes in a place serving food is the normal and everything escalates from there. The fact that we could bring guns to school in the 70's and there were no school shootings kinda points towards people and not guns being the problem. I take comfort in the fact that my neighbors have guns and know how to use them, I hear them sighting their rifles and practicing every time a new hunting season arrives. The world wont see the "peaceful protests" that had looting, burning businesses, beatings, and even murders that were going on a few years ago in my neighborhood, BLM, Antifa, and all other terrorists will need to find other areas to prey on. Lets not forget that there were government leaders on TV encouraging the terrorists to "not let up". These are the people in our government running our country and some of you continue to vote for that, like I said, the USA has a people problem.
Oh we can agree to disagree and let this thread go to the dumpster. I carried a high capacity rifle for 20 years in the AF as a special weapons tech. The high cap function was great! I would have never attempted that job with my 300 win Mag. There is a reason these idiots are using high cap rifles and not moose guns.
 
Jay. You will get a kick out of this

I went to a public high school and we had a mandatory ROTC program for all the boys from their sophomore year forward.

We also had a rifle range in the school! All 22 caliber, but we loved it. I got my first 22 at age 10 followed up with a side by side 12 gauge at the age of 12.

The best times in America are well behind us now!
I went with my dad to shoot skeet (20 gauge pump) when I was 14 for the first time. Hit three out of five, lol. Took ROTC my first year in college, so when I went in the Army they made me a PFC right off. That got my monthly pay up to $99/month. The regular draftees (E-1's) were only getting $78! The year was 1967 at good old Ft. Polk, LA. First stop on the way to Nam!
 
Dang Jay, I see you went in the same time as me, I could tell just by the pay. Don't ask me how I can remember $77 , but it's like it was yesterday.
 
The founding fathers could answer that.

So could the Nazis.
There he is, and so dramatic. Finally came with the nazi's. What took you so long?
Nobody is going to ban guns and take them away from you. How many guns do you have buried in the backyard?
 
Dang Jay, I see you went in the same time as me, I could tell just by the pay. Don't ask me how I can remember $77 , but it's like it was yesterday.
Ft. Polk, close to Leesvile? When I got my first overnight leave (after one month) I went into town and the streets were lined with bars, and every one of them had a pool table (7'). I was in heaven! From then on made an extra $25-50 bucks every weekend playing one and two dollar Eight Ball. I thought I was good until I went to Johnston City after leaving Polk and getting my butt waxed.
 
I went with my dad to shoot skeet (20 gauge pump) when I was 14 for the first time. Hit three out of five, lol. Took ROTC my first year in college, so when I went in the Army they made me a PFC right off. That got my monthly pay up to $99/month. The regular draftees (E-1's) were only getting $78! The year was 1967 at good old Ft. Polk, LA. First stop on the way to Nam!
US median annual income back than was about $7K, so $78 a month was about 1% of that (plus room, board and all the harassment you could stand).

Today's median income is about $75K, so 1% monthly would = $750. Don't know what a private's pay is now.

pj
chgo
 
There he is, and so dramatic. Finally came with the nazi's. What took you so long?
Nobody is going to ban guns and take them away from you. How many guns do you have buried in the backyard?
A question was asked and I answered it.

Certainly you don't think that the second amendment has anything to do with hunting, do you?

But I agree. It won't happen here. We have a constitution that won't allow it and "we the people" certainly won't.

No matter how badly some want to see it.
 
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A question was asked and I answered it.

Certainly you don't think that the second amendment has anything to do with hunting, do you?

But I agree. It won't happen here. We have a constitution that won't allow it and "we the people" certainly won't.

No matter how badly some want to see it.
Yep. Mark my worrds.... once the second amendment falls, the rest of them will follow.
 
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