Mass Shooting At Maine Pool Hall & Bowling Alley

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They were your idiotic, untrue words. FYI you also do not have the right to purchase and possess firearms while mentally unstable. So again, let me know when you grow a brain and are capable of a factually correct statement
It always amazes me how people on forums, surprising so on a pool forum can’t debate civilly! My point is that it was too easy to get, purchase and keep a gun in the mental state he was. Correct me if I am wrong and I maybe but no need for peurile comments, but if he was mentally unstable why did he still have a gun. Either he didn’t give it in, it wasn’t removed from him or it was too easy to get another one!
Also to the good guys with a gun could have shot him argument- if this is a gun state then surely some of those good guys were around but didn’t shoot him. It’s not Hollywood, in real situations most people not used to being under fire will try and preserve their own lives.
Also please pay attention to my previous comments, I have not said I agree to a total gun removal (wouldn’t be possible anyway), I was just saying more controls, limitations etc should be done!!
 
It is much more likely for someone having a bad day to have a few drinks and get behind the wheel than it is for someone to go on a shooting spree. And those people most likely legally got their license just like they legally got their firearms. Just saying. There is no perfect solution but un arming law abiding citizens is just a ridiculous idea.
 
It always amazes me how people on forums, surprising so on a pool forum can’t debate civilly! My point is that it was too easy to get, purchase and keep a gun in the mental state he was. Correct me if I am wrong and I maybe but no need for peurile comments, but if he was mentally unstable why did he still have a gun. Either he didn’t give it in, it wasn’t removed from him or it was too easy to get another one!
Also to the good guys with a gun could have shot him argument- if this is a gun state then surely some of those good guys were around but didn’t shoot him. It’s not Hollywood, in real situations most people not used to being under fire will try and preserve their own lives.
Also please pay attention to my previous comments, I have not said I agree to a total gun removal (wouldn’t be possible anyway), I was just saying more controls, limitations etc should be done!!
Correct you if you're wrong. I did. Twice. You either don't know basic rights or you were purposely lying about what they are and then crying about my response and pretending you wanted to actually have a discussion. You're either untruthful or not intelligent enough to have a conversation. Either way, I'm done with you
 
It always amazes me how people on forums, surprising so on a pool forum can’t debate civilly! My point is that it was too easy to get, purchase and keep a gun in the mental state he was. Correct me if I am wrong and I maybe but no need for peurile comments, but if he was mentally unstable why did he still have a gun. Either he didn’t give it in, it wasn’t removed from him or it was too easy to get another one!
He had more than one firearm and had them for a long time. He was a certified firearm instructor. They don't do annual mental tests on all gun owners. Do you have any idea how many knife murders there are annually?
Also to the good guys with a gun could have shot him argument- if this is a gun state then surely some of those good guys were around but didn’t shoot him.
Apparently, nobody was carrying a weapon in a "fun place" to spend the evening. It all happened very quickly.
It’s not Hollywood, in real situations most people not used to being under fire will try and preserve their own lives.
Training for it can help. Otherwise just having one might not or it could. Depends on the circumstances.
Also please pay attention to my previous comments, I have not said I agree to a total gun removal (wouldn’t be possible anyway), I was just saying more controls, limitations etc should be done!!
Explain. Like what? What do you think the result of crime will be like with the influx of MILLIONS of ILLEGAL aliens allowed into this country who are involved with the cartel, drugs, and desperate for money because of nowhere to live, no jobs, and no money?
 
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Automobiles are designed for transportation. Guns are designed to kill. You pull a gun you better be ready to and know how to use it. You want to use a car, pass a test and get a license.

Interestingly, this particular POS not only knew how to use a gun, he taught others how to use them. Competence has absolutely no bearing in whether bad people do bad things.

Nor should competence be a determining factor in whether or not someone is allowed to defend themselves against bad people. The founding fathers certainly got that one right...
 
The main “reason” being that I questioned your favorite aiming system. Good thing you were only armed with a CAPS LOCK key.

lol

pj
chgo
You NEVER questioned the aiming system! You were on the attack from day ONE the first time it was posted on RSB.
Here's your attack (not question):

"This is the biggest crock of transcendental pool bull I've ever heard. Even
worse than I imagined. Is this really the line (including hook and sinker) you
Houle Pool suckers... er, students are buying? Does he do seances, too? Can he
channel Efren through me for the Chicago RSB Shootout?

You know, if you count up your fingers and toes and subtract the number of tries
it took to get it right, that leaves sixteen... exactly the number of balls in
pool! Weird, huh? You don't think that's an accident, do you?"
Pat Johnson
ChicagoN

Yep, there's good 'ol all knowing PJ for every subject there is. You were there, berserk, using all the word ammunition
and weaponry you possessed at the time. And you've done it for 25 years and still counting. A gun does not belong
in your hands.
 
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Sorry TRX. This guy had a .223. Is an assault rifle only a full auto? I can lay out 60 rounds in less than 3 minutes. How many can I do with a REM 700. 5. Rem 742 with clips loaded 10 maybe?
JAB. I'm not talking a ban. I think we need more responsibility. Yes. I guess that guy had fun.
3 minutes to get off 60 rounds??? I think I could almost do that with a 6 shot revolver.
 
Completely law-abiding citizens are responsible for a fair share of gun injuries/deaths, and they're a major source of guns stolen by crooks. Simply put, the more guns in circulation, the more gun danger for everybody. It ain't rocket surgery.

pj
chgo
Last I checked, the ATF was a major source of guns stolen by crooks 😆
 
It is much more likely for someone having a bad day to have a few drinks and get behind the wheel than it is for someone to go on a shooting spree. And those people most likely legally got their license just like they legally got their firearms. Just saying. There is no perfect solution but un arming law abiding citizens is just a ridiculous idea.
It not un-arming or disarming, it’s the illusion and fear mongering that we’re going to lose our right to bear arms. The same fear mongering that gays and pedophiles are one and the same and on and on. Taking advantage of the ignorant and unwashed who interpret the Constitution and the Bible to achieve their end goals.
 
Here's the bad news kids. We have a problem in this country with our culture. A culture that leans toward violent solutions to end any and all problems. It has been handed down to us by our very leadership and has been accepted by millions as a solution to our problems, whatever they may be. The use of guns for evil purposes is glorified everywhere! On the visual media, on video games and in print media as well. It's everywhere! Guns are just good clean fun. Let's go shoot something or someone today! Gun use and the killing that goes with it is a way for a troubled person to gain fame or recognition in his group. This is the very sad reality of life in the USA. Guns are readily attainable by the responsible owners, as well as those that have evil intent. Doubtful that will be changing soon, or the culture that supports the use of guns for both good and bad.

We humans are evolving creatures here on planet Earth. We are relatively new here and have not yet learned how to adapt to our environment and live in harmony with it. Our genetic make-up is not much different than it was 200,000 years ago. It remains about survival of the fittest, the strongest, and today the most well armed. We humans remain a very warlike creature. War permeates our entire planet with a few dozen going on right now! Whether we will survive as species for much longer is still very much in question. The dinosaurs ruled for 100 million years. So far we've been the apex predator for less than 100,000 years. I don't like our chances to make it many million more. At least not in this form. I suspect what we will eventually evolve into will be far different than how we look today.

I may not have worded this in the best possible way but I think you get my drift. By the way, I am spending more time in the Philippines, also a very well armed country. Over there most criminals and civilian gun owners opt for a .45. They are not messing around with wounding anyone. They shoot only to kill, and that includes the police. What's interesting is there are NO mass murders like we see here! No school shootings, no mall murders, no nothing like what we just saw in Maine. There is also no mob thievery like we see in high end stores and malls happening here nearly every day. There is virtually no road rage (a few rare cases) on crowded streets full of bad drivers. These things just don't happen there! Why is that? Because their culture is different than ours. People do not think that way. Basically they let bygones be bygones and go about their business even if they feel wronged somehow. Why start trouble if you don't have too. That is their mind set! Yes, there are often one on one murders, as a result of a feud over money or a woman. But there are no mass murders for no reason. There is simply a different mind set there, where some things are not acceptable to anyone. Here we have no such mind set. Anything is now acceptable as a possibility for a troubled mind.

I hope this makes sense to many of you. I don't profess to have the answer, but I see what I see, and there is no easy answer. We here are saddled with this dilemma for a long, long time I'm afraid. It could take many generations for our national/world mind set/culture to change in a positive way. In the meantime take care of yourself, avoid bad situations, walk away when angry, always be aware of who and what is around you (I call that my poolroom radar). Be extra careful at night, when the vampires come out. Bad actors like to operate under the cover of darkness.

And yes, to answer your next question, I am a gun owner, ready to protect my home, property and loved ones if need be. I'm sorry but that is the reality of the world I live in today. So far have only had two or three occasions to lock and load, but I was ready when I did. In the meantime my weapons are kept well hidden and locked up.
The answer you're looking for is the gospel, the (good news) of Jesus Christ, the Son of God. I'm a Christian, a veteran, and an old man. I don't worry about the future of our planet because God is in control. I have no doubt that things will work out according to His will. And this is the gospel... John 3:16, 'For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.'
You might want to check it out. God doesn't send anyone to Hell, they choose to go there.
 
It not un-arming or disarming, it’s the illusion and fear mongering that we’re going to lose our right to bear arms. The same fear mongering that gays and pedophiles are one and the same and on and on. Taking advantage of the ignorant and unwashed who interpret the Constitution and the Bible to achieve their end goals.
If people actually still read the Bible, there would be much less death
 
I think you have an optimistic idea of the risk/reward of gun carrying citizens. Here are some findings from Harvard School of Health's study on that:

  • Guns are not used millions of times each year in self-defense
  • Most purported self-defense gun uses are gun uses in escalating arguments, and are both socially undesirable and illegal
  • Firearms are used far more often to intimidate than in self-defense
  • Guns in the home are used more often to intimidate intimates than to thwart crime
  • Adolescents are far more likely to be threatened with a gun than to use one in self-defense
  • Criminals who are shot are typically the victims of crime
  • Few criminals are shot by decent law-abiding citizens
  • Self-defense gun use is rare and not more effective at preventing injury than other protective actions
pj
chgo
And you are using an organization where the students support Hamas?

1.Guns are not used millions of times each year in self-defense

Harvard students and not smart enough to realize not all self defense occurrences are reported to the police. Remember, self defense with a firearm doesn't mean a trigger was pulled.
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  • Most purported self-defense gun uses are gun uses in escalating arguments, and are both socially undesirable and illegal
This sentence is void when they used the word purported. Apparently Harvard doesn't teach the definition of the word. Purported means assumed to be so. So the conclusion is they made this statement based on emotion, not fact. It means they don't have a clue.
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3. Firearms are used far more often to intimidate than in self-defense.

4. This is the only thing they have correct. According to the FBI, firearms are used far more often as a way to put a stop to a crime without ever firing a shot. And most of these occurrences are not reported. I myself would report it. Maybe the authorities could apprehend the bastard before he can do it to someone else. Not that it would do any good considering the catch and release policies of some of our jurisdictions.
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4. Guns in the home are used more often to intimidate intimates than to thwart crime.

And they proved this how? They based this statement on point #1.
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  • Adolescents are far more likely to be threatened with a gun than to use one in self-defense
Of course this is true. Adolescents are not allowed to possess a firearm except for hunting under the supervision of an adult. But there are many cases where a teenager used a gun in the home for self defense. Remember the teenage girl in Texas, who was also a junior skeet champion, grabbed a shotgun and killed an illegal alien breaking into the house?
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  • Criminals who are shot are typically the victims of crime
This makes absolutely no sense. If they are "criminal", according to these morons, how are they victims?
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  • Criminals who are shot are typically the victims of crime
If this data was cherry picked from areas such as Chicago or New York, of course this would be true.
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Self-defense gun use is rare and not more effective at preventing injury than other protective actions.

Like what protective actions do they mean? Telling your assailant to hold on a minute while you dial your cell phone? How about cowering in the corner while your wife is being assaulted? This is called passivecism. It doesn't work.
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All of this conjecture is crap. None of it passes the smell test. The only thing these students are not taught is common sense. Men have been killing other men since the beginning. And if you've ever studied history, you'll know that it was much worse before the firearm was ever invented. When a wolf attacks your flock, you kill the wolf... not pull the teeth out of your sheep.
 
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It always amazes me how people on forums, surprising so on a pool forum can’t debate civilly! My point is that it was too easy to get, purchase and keep a gun in the mental state he was. Correct me if I am wrong and I maybe but no need for peurile comments, but if he was mentally unstable why did he still have a gun. Either he didn’t give it in, it wasn’t removed from him or it was too easy to get another one!
Also to the good guys with a gun could have shot him argument- if this is a gun state then surely some of those good guys were around but didn’t shoot him. It’s not Hollywood, in real situations most people not used to being under fire will try and preserve their own lives.
Also please pay attention to my previous comments, I have not said I agree to a total gun removal (wouldn’t be possible anyway), I was just saying more controls, limitations etc should be done!!
In every state that allows concealed carry that I know of, the establishment can put up a sign to create a "gun free" zone in their property. Why do you think all of the mass shootings happen in these fairyland places? Does the sign they put on their doors have magical powers?
 
I’m sure your research qualifications outshine Harvard’s. Please share them so we can applaud.

pj
chgo
Some of the stupidest people I know went to college to become that way.

When I see college students supporting and actually celebrating Hamas killing of women and children, I have zero respect for them. And these atrocities are being committed by GOVERNMENTS with guns.... not civilians.

I don't trust any government. Not even our own. They do not have our best interests at heart. Just look how they are spending money we don't even have.
 
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