Mass Shooting At Maine Pool Hall & Bowling Alley

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I'm pretty sure this debate will be settled right after someone invents the perfect aiming system for pool.
 
He had the right to carry and purchase a rifle whilst mentally unstable, which he used to kill people. It really isn’t that hard to grasp nor to be civil in discourse!
They were your idiotic, untrue words. FYI you also do not have the right to purchase and possess firearms while mentally unstable. So again, let me know when you grow a brain and are capable of a factually correct statement
 
Some people are so terrified of guns, they're even terrified of people that they acknowledge to be completely "law-abiding" having them.
Completely law-abiding citizens are responsible for a fair share of gun injuries/deaths, and they're a major source of guns stolen by crooks. Simply put, the more guns in circulation, the more gun danger for everybody. It ain't rocket surgery.

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For the same reason I don't want armed law abiding citizens living next door. They're only law abiding until they aren't, and then it's too late.

"I need a gun for protection" is an NRA marketing slogan.

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chgo
Have you ever had your home invaded? You might think differently is so.
 
Shhh!! Next thing you know the man'll make us be licensed to drive with tightly restricted rules and penalties of fines and imprisonment.

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And where are the limitations as to the availability, or the type of automobiles you can purchase?

Because don't you know, those black cars are dangerous!

We do agree though. When you screw up, you should be held accountable.

When you screw up. Because it has nothing to do with the car!
 
The same can be said about automobiles!
Automobiles are designed for transportation. Guns are designed to kill. You pull a gun you better be ready to and know how to use it. You want to use a car, pass a test and get a license.
 
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Automobiles are designed for transportation. Guns are designed to kill. You pull a gun you better be ready to and know how to use it. You want to use a car, pass a test and get a license.
IMO,'
Guns are designed to shoot, cars to drive,
knives to cut, electricity for power,
all of these have been used for unintended purposes.
Growing up was a lot of fun to shoot in the woods target shooting, hunting , etc.
Terrible that people doing really wicked, evil things....
Not just with guns either
 
it's also worth noting that the high velocity .22 center fire calibers are used for many different types of hunting, not just deer.

And of course, regardless, the second amendment has absolutely nothing to do with hunting. Something that left often struggles to wrap their heads around..
.22 Mags will bring down anything short of a Bear or Moose. Ranchers in Northern Nevada hunt down mountain lions with them. A lot cheaper than 30-30 rounds.
 
For the same reason I don't want armed law abiding citizens living next door. They're only law abiding until they aren't, and then it's too late.
Whether it was an armed law-abiding citizen or non-armed, they more than likely wouldn't want to be living next door to you either for numerous reasons. None of which involve the fact that you don't own a gun.
"I need a gun for protection" is an NRA marketing slogan.

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chgo
It's more of a "want" than a "need" but could be a "need" depending on age and health. You're an old geezer in your
mid 70's living in a high crime city. What are you going to do, scare them away with all of your Bruce Lee moves and screams learned over the years from watching his movies?

Do you have any clue how many times guns SAVE lives for law abiding citizens who own them? I didn't think so. Unfortunately, that's never reported. Except it is reported in the NRA magazine that goes out to members. Every
day people who got to live more years on Earth instead of die.
 
Here's the bad news kids. We have a problem in this country with our culture. A culture that leans toward violent solutions to end any and all problems. It has been handed down to us by our very leadership and has been accepted by millions as a solution to our problems, whatever they may be. The use of guns for evil purposes is glorified everywhere! On the visual media, on video games and in print media as well. It's everywhere! Guns are just good clean fun. Let's go shoot something or someone today! Gun use and the killing that goes with it is a way for a troubled person to gain fame or recognition in his group. This is the very sad reality of life in the USA. Guns are readily attainable by the responsible owners, as well as those that have evil intent. Doubtful that will be changing soon, or the culture that supports the use of guns for both good and bad.

We humans are evolving creatures here on planet Earth. We are relatively new here and have not yet learned how to adapt to our environment and live in harmony with it. Our genetic make-up is not much different than it was 200,000 years ago. It remains about survival of the fittest, the strongest, and today the most well armed. We humans remain a very warlike creature. War permeates our entire planet with a few dozen going on right now! Whether we will survive as species for much longer is still very much in question. The dinosaurs ruled for 100 million years. So far we've been the apex predator for less than 100,000 years. I don't like our chances to make it many million more. At least not in this form. I suspect what we will eventually evolve into will be far different than how we look today.

I may not have worded this in the best possible way but I think you get my drift. By the way, I am spending more time in the Philippines, also a very well armed country. Over there most criminals and civilian gun owners opt for a .45. They are not messing around with wounding anyone. They shoot only to kill, and that includes the police. What's interesting is there are NO mass murders like we see here! No school shootings, no mall murders, no nothing like what we just saw in Maine. There is also no mob thievery like we see in high end stores and malls happening here nearly every day. There is virtually no road rage (a few rare cases) on crowded streets full of bad drivers. These things just don't happen there! Why is that? Because their culture is different than ours. People do not think that way. Basically they let bygones be bygones and go about their business even if they feel wronged somehow. Why start trouble if you don't have too. That is their mind set! Yes, there are often one on one murders, as a result of a feud over money or a woman. But there are no mass murders for no reason. There is simply a different mind set there, where some things are not acceptable to anyone. Here we have no such mind set. Anything is now acceptable as a possibility for a troubled mind.

I hope this makes sense to many of you. I don't profess to have the answer, but I see what I see, and there is no easy answer. We here are saddled with this dilemma for a long, long time I'm afraid. It could take many generations for our national/world mind set/culture to change in a positive way. In the meantime take care of yourself, avoid bad situations, walk away when angry, always be aware of who and what is around you (I call that my poolroom radar). Be extra careful at night, when the vampires come out. Bad actors like to operate under the cover of darkness.

And yes, to answer your next question, I am a gun owner, ready to protect my home, property and loved ones if need be. I'm sorry but that is the reality of the world I live in today. So far have only had two or three occasions to lock and load, but I was ready when I did. In the meantime my weapons are kept well hidden and locked up.
 
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Here's the bad news kids. We have a problem in this country with our culture. A culture that leans toward violent solutions to end any and all problems. It has been handed down to us by our very leadership and has been accepted by millions as a solution to our problems, whatever they may be. The use of guns for evil purposes is glorified everywhere! On the visual media, on video games and in print media as well. It's everywhere! Guns are just good clean fun. Let's go shoot something or someone today! Gun use and the killing that goes with it is a way for a troubled person to gain fame or recognition in his group. This is the very sad reality of life in the USA. Guns are readily attainable by the responsible owners, as well as those that have evil intent. Doubtful that will be changing soon, or the culture that supports the use of guns for both good and bad.

We humans are evolving creatures here on planet Earth. We are relatively new here and have not yet learned how to adapt to our environment and live in harmony with it. Our genetic make-up is not much different than it was 200,000 years ago. It remains about survival of the fittest, the strongest, and today the most well armed. We humans remain a very warlike creature. War permeates our entire planet with a few dozen going on right now! Whether we will survive as species for much longer is still very much in question. The dinosaurs ruled for 100 million years. So far we've been the apex predator for less than 100,000 years. I don't like our chances to make it many million more. At least not in this form. I suspect what we will eventually evolve into will be far different than how we look today.

I may not have worded this in the best possible way but I think you get my drift. By the way, I am spending more time in the Philippines, also a very well armed country. Over there most criminals and civilian gun owners opt for a .45. They are not messing around with wounding anyone. They shoot only to kill, and that includes the police. What's interesting is there are NO mass murders like we see here! No school shootings, no mall murders, no nothing like what we just saw in Maine. There is also no mob thievery like we see in high end stores and malls happening here nearly every day. There is virtually no road rage (a few rare cases) on crowded streets full of bad drivers. These things just don't happen there! Why is that? Because their culture is different than ours. People do not think that way. Basically they let bygones be bygones and go about their business even if they feel wronged somehow. Why start trouble if you don't have too. That is their mind set! Yes, there are often one on one murders, as a result of a feud over money or a woman. But there are no mass murders for no reason. There is simply a different mind set there, where some things are not acceptable to anyone. Here we have no such mind set. Anything is now acceptable as a possibility for a troubled mind.

I hope this makes sense to many of you. I don't profess to have the answer, but I see what I see, and there is no easy answer. We here are saddled with this dilemma for a long, long time I'm afraid. It could take many generations for our national/world mind set/culture to change in a positive way. In the meantime take care of yourself, avoid bad situations, walk away when angry, always be aware of who and what is around you (I call that my poolroom radar). Be extra careful at night, when the vampires come out. Bad actors like to operate under cover of darkness.

And yes, to answer your next question, I am a gun owner, ready to protect my home, property and loved ones if need be. So far have only had two or three occasions to lock and load, but I was ready when I did. In the meantime my weapons are well hidden and locked up.
You put a lot of thought and emotion into this post. Well done. My weapons are hidden and locked up also, except for the one being carried and a few known only to me and my wife for quick access if needed. I have never, ever had the anger, desire, or any other emotion to pull it out and shoot another human being (or animal) for any reason.
 
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