Mcdermott cues

flowerpower2016

flowerpower2016

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Ok this is gonna seem like a rant but not really. haha. Why does everyone always concentrate on the so called "custome" stick? I just dont see why mcdermott sticks dont get the recognition that they deserve. I mean when it comes to overall value and shooting, you cant beat them. you can send them back twice a yr for like 15 bucks a pop and get a practically brand new stick sent back. most of them have wood to wood flat face joints with a big pin (3/8 x 16) and thats what most look for in a player. man they shoot as good as any other custom out there imho but everyone concentrates on the custom cues, i guess primarily bc theyre harder to get their hands on. i dont know, it just seems like a no brainer to me. Is it bc mcdermott makes so many stick or what? anyone have any thoughts for me? is this just in my imagination?
 
I am a McDermott fan myself and I doubt that I ever find something that fits better to me
However to say there is no reason to get a custom made stick, is a little out of line...
First of all, if you get yourself a custom made stick, they will make up the right weight distribution (and overall weight), get the inlays perfectly to your likes, you get to choose joint, ferule, and whatever else is to be chosen on a cue, so the cue is made to be abolutely to your likings
Additionally even if you do not go for a custom stick, there are lots of other great cuemakers (Mezz, Joss, Bear, Falcon, maybe even Predator, etc) who make high quality cues in big series. And each of them have their own customers, who would say "there is noone better"
To me, I found what I searched regarding weight distribution, hit and feel for now. No matter if I talk about my Hustler, or the Dubliner....
 
The joint you're referring to is 3/8-10 flat face. The old D line McDermotts were as good as any production cue ever made - better than most. They were short spliced w/ veneers, sharp points & inlays. The new ones are done with inlaid points, & mostly 2nd tier materials. Often the cnc work is done, and worse left with, quite a large radius. Sometimes ridiculously so.
Mcdermott does a great job at their price point, for their demographic, and they provide good service (someone pays for that service, somehow - think about it). They make a solid cue with a good hit & reasonable consistency. But their re-sale is poor for all those same reasons. They're a strictly production entity, not to be confused with "custom" makers. So there's no reason to be overly confused as to why they've become thought about on a different level.
They are what they are.
btw - I still own two D line cues, one of which I had made 'one off' thru their "custom shop" at that time - a D21, w/ D25 joint rings & MOP inlays. It's a great cue, and represents the pinnacle of the McDermott history.
 
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'nuff said bro . . . "

mdavis228 said:
btw - I still own two D line cues, one of which I had made 'one off' thru their "custom shop" at that time - a D21, w/ D25 joint rings & MOP inlays. It's a great cue, and represents the pinnacle of the McDermott history.
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Amen to that . . . I saw many a jam-up A player and/or wandering road dudes back in the 80's with "D" cues . . . they were still a steal and played way beyond their price point. Amazing to see that McDermott has survived through all of the cue imports, copy cats, etc. They been bought out by a management group from the existing staff . . . hopefully they'll continue on the same path of building a great playing, AMERICAM made, very good quality cue for an ultra fair price . . . a true success story. I've owned dozens of 'em and still have four that I've kept over the years, and I only own U.S. manufactured cues now. I'll go out of my way to support Americans that can build products worth owning . . . many of our custom builders, a McD etc. need all of the support we can give them!

Here's a couple of pretty ones . . .
 

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I like custom cues. I've played with them, different ones, for about 30 years or more. Why do you have a problem with that?? I don't care for production cues. I've never hit a production cue that hit as well as any of my custom cues. That's why I play with them.
 
I totally get the custom cue appeal and I love my Jeff Olney and will likely never get rid of it, but I can appreciate a great production cue too. I like McDermott, they have outstanding support, some nice designs, and a good platform (3/8-10 wood-to-wood joints). I have my first one coming this week actually and I'm looking forward to trying it out, especially the new G-Core shaft.

Sure they don't have the craftsmanship of the custom cues, but the playability I'm sure is all there.
 
flowerpower2016 said:
Ok this is gonna seem like a rant but not really. haha. Why does everyone always concentrate on the so called "custome" stick? I just dont see why mcdermott sticks dont get the recognition that they deserve. I mean when it comes to overall value and shooting, you cant beat them. you can send them back twice a yr for like 15 bucks a pop and get a practically brand new stick sent back. most of them have wood to wood flat face joints with a big pin (3/8 x 16) and thats what most look for in a player. man they shoot as good as any other custom out there imho but everyone concentrates on the custom cues, i guess primarily bc theyre harder to get their hands on. i dont know, it just seems like a no brainer to me. Is it bc mcdermott makes so many stick or what? anyone have any thoughts for me? is this just in my imagination?
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I was a McDermott dealer when they first started. They were unbelievable. They made a C and D series that I wish they made today. They made if I remember it right a C-6 that was really nice. I must have sold 500 of that one model cue. They made a SP for $50.00 that could not be beat for the price.

I am sorry to say, I don't think they are the quality they used to be. For one thing they make too many models. They got away from their original concept that they built the company on.
 
I recently picked up a (circa 1984?) McDermott D-1 in
a local pawn shop. Got it and the McDermott emblem
Porper 1X1 case for $100. Had it retipped...it's a great
playing "bar cue"...for the places I'm afraid to use my
Josey in. :wink:
 
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flowerpower2016 said:
Ok this is gonna seem like a rant but not really. haha. Why does everyone always concentrate on the so called "custome" stick? I just dont see why mcdermott sticks dont get the recognition that they deserve. I mean when it comes to overall value and shooting, you cant beat them. you can send them back twice a yr for like 15 bucks a pop and get a practically brand new stick sent back. most of them have wood to wood flat face joints with a big pin (3/8 x 16) and thats what most look for in a player. man they shoot as good as any other custom out there imho but everyone concentrates on the custom cues, i guess primarily bc theyre harder to get their hands on. i dont know, it just seems like a no brainer to me. Is it bc mcdermott makes so many stick or what? anyone have any thoughts for me? is this just in my imagination?
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I have been making CUSTOM ONE-OF-A -KIND CUES for 23 years & selling Mcdermott cues for 25 years. I think last year, Mcdermott made 60,000 pool cues. There must be a lot of people that like them. There is room for both, but maybe production cue owners, are not as interested in this or other forums. Owners of custom cues tend to talk more about what they own...JER
 
I love my McDermotts. I've been playing with McDermott cues since the 80's. I have a D15 and a LE. The LE is my main player. I've had customs and they are good too and will continue to get a custom. You just have to find what is right for you. Either production or custom. For me thats one of the joys of playing. Getting a new toy. :thumbup:


Shane
 
My first production cue was Mcdermott EK3 it had chess pieces inlaided on it with floating points. I have not found a cue with any better hit then this cue. I have cues in my collection that feel as good but none better.
 
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i never said you shouldnt own a custom cue and i never said i have a problem with people who shoot customs. thats just stupid to say that. i know why people own customs and i myself own two. thats not what im saying. but if a newbie came in here and read up everything he would be so confused bc everyone talks about customs and nobody talks about any production cues. if they do i havent seen it much. reading the posts on here would seemingly drive someone away from a production cue that cost around 150 bucks and hits just as good. i dont know, just a thought. and like i said, i love custom cues. my post was in no way hating on custom cues. in fact i said nothing like that i dont know where that guy up there got that i said you shouldnt own a custom. i was simply saying there are alot of great sticks out there that arent made in someones garage.
 
btw,what exactly does it mean when someone says they had a cue made "one off?" btw jacoby ellsbury stole home straight up against the yanks tonight for anyone who cares!
 
flowerpower2016 said:
btw,what exactly does it mean when someone says they had a cue made "one off?" btw jacoby ellsbury stole home straight up against the yanks tonight for anyone who cares!
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Cindy & I cared...a LOT! The pride of Madras, Oregon..#46 for the Red Sox, Jacoby Ellsbury! I have an autographed hat from his Portland ME "Sea Dogs" minor league year...:D! He was also on the College world series championship Oregon State Beavers team...
 
flowerpower2016 said:
i never said you shouldnt own a custom cue and i never said i have a problem with people who shoot customs. thats just stupid to say that. i know why people own customs and i myself own two. thats not what im saying. but if a newbie came in here and read up everything he would be so confused bc everyone talks about customs and nobody talks about any production cues. if they do i havent seen it much. reading the posts on here would seemingly drive someone away from a production cue that cost around 150 bucks and hits just as good. i dont know, just a thought. and like i said, i love custom cues. my post was in no way hating on custom cues. in fact i said nothing like that i dont know where that guy up there got that i said you shouldnt own a custom. i was simply saying there are alot of great sticks out there that arent made in someones garage.
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People mostly talk about what they know about and play with. What I don't understand, is why people start threads like this. When someone asks about a cheaper cue, the responses are usually about production cues, so I don't get why you started this. People here talk about production cues frequently. If you did a search you might find more than a few. If people want to play with production cues, I don't really care. Threads like this say to me that custom cues aren't worth the money, they don't hit any better, and that's just not true. If it was, we'd all play with production cues. Didn't mean to ruffle your feathers, but all too often, this is the way it reads.
 
I have a D series McDermott, and it plays nice. But I have a custom on order from Crown Cues. Im getting what I want, at a very good price, cheaper than some production cues. So in my opinion it makes since to get a cue tailored to me, then one off a shelf. Im still going to keep my D series though.
 
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People mostly talk about what they know about and play with. What I don't understand, is why people start threads like this. When someone asks about a cheaper cue, the responses are usually about production cues, so I don't get why you started this. People here talk about production cues frequently. If you did a search you might find more than a few. If people want to play with production cues, I don't really care. Threads like this say to me that custom cues aren't worth the money, they don't hit any better, and that's just not true. If it was, we'd all play with production cues. Didn't mean to ruffle your feathers, but all too often, this is the way it reads.
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there are players... and their cue is a player.... take it with you everywhere... shoot with it exclusively... live it, love it they know nothing else...

that player is in tune with his instrument...

THAT is the most important point.

I am so tired of cue snobs that scoff at anything below a certain price point.
or made by someone the feel is inferior....

these same people seem to be the ones with hermetically sealed cues that are never allowed to see a piece of chalk much less a game of pool.

(cuesnob) I have the best cue EVER!!!!!

(player)do you play with it?

(cuesnob)OHHHH GOD NO!!! that would kill the resale value

(player)why did you buy it?

(cuesnob) to have the best cue ever

(player)what good is a cue that never sees a table?

(cuesnob) but it's the best cue ever

/insert obscure spinal tap reference/

( but this one goes to 11)


it's a waste..

get something nice that you like.. and stop looking for cues

That is what I did..

I have a nice Mcd with CNC inlays and AAA hard rock Michigan maple

it plays like a part of my arm and IT'S NOT FOR SALE!!!
 
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