Measles cb adjustment

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3RAILKICK

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How do you adjust (quickly) to playing with the 'measles' ball when you generally play w 'red dot'? EDIT: RED CIRCLE/ NOT RED DOT

I chose to change shafts- I used 13mm instead of 12.5mm. I tried to make 'rolling shape' instead of a normal variety of shape options. It was harder than I thot.

Your experiences/suggestions? Note: Cash league-4 man teams /9 ball/last league night vying for 1st place-measles ball appeared unexpectedly. Our table only. 1st vs 2nd place teams playing each other. We lost.

Observations/comments other than the obvious sour grapes? Opponent returned measles ball to his case at conclusion of match. I didn't notice until match was underway-I didn't feel i could ask to change since we had already played 3 games. My bad -I should have paid more attention rather than practice w/red dot (actually red circle)awaiting my turn.

Thanks

3railkick
 
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From my experience the measles ball plays heavier than the red Circle .

When I adjust to new equipment I try to keep things as simple as possible, (stop position where possible)

I am surprised most leagues I was in are kinda specific about what Cue ball to use, (Cue ball that is on that table). If a team wants to change it they have to inform the opposing captain of their request.
 
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If you through them on a scale I don't know what the difference would be if any.

I've found the biggest problem a lot of people have with the measles cue ball is they let all the dots distract them (not saying its true in this case).

I would like to know what makes it cost so much?

Seems to be about 10 dollars higher than a red circle I think its marketing since pros on TV use it.
 
Don't confuse Red Dot with Red Circle

Tony_in_MD said:
From my experience the measles ball plays heavier than the red dot.

When I adjust to new equipment I try to keep things as simple as possible, (stop position where possible)

I am surprised most leagues I was in are kinda specific about what Cue ball to use, (Cue ball that is on that table). If a team wants to change it they have to inform the opposing captain of their request.
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Folks:

Red Dot or Red Circle -- there's a difference! The Aramith Red Dot [Dynamo] is a heavyweight cue ball for the Dynamo bar-boxes that use weight to distinguish the cue ball from the rest of the object balls (the Red Dot cue ball weighs in at 6.75oz -- a full ounce heavier than the object balls).

The Aramith Red Circle, on the other hand, is the very popular general purpose cue ball used on a lot of non-coin-op tables for tournaments, et al. It weighs the same as the object balls, at 5.75oz.

The measles ball weighs in at 6oz even, so it's heavier than the Red Circle by a quarter of an ounce -- still noticeable!

And yes, I agree it should be against the rules to arbitrarily change the cue ball mid-tourney just because a certain player decides he/she prefers playing with the measles ball. That is, unless, both teams agree to it, which in this instance, it sounds like not the case.

Hope this is helpful,
-Sean
 
I won't begin to guess what the standards are for bar box balls (OBs or CBs)

But for the rest of the pool playing world, the standards are pretty well accepted as being 6 ounces for object balls and cue balls. There is an accepted tolerance for the weight and diameter.
Replacement OBs and CBs are still required to be a standard weight and diameter.

Older balls with lots of playing time will wear down and lose weight and diameter. If you've been playing with a RED Circle Cue ball that is 5 to 10 years old, it will play much lighter than a brand new RED Circle Cue ball and you will notice the difference.

The Poka dot ball weighs 6 ounces and is 2 and a quarter inches in diameter. Just like the standards require.

Adjustments will be required. But if you've been playing with the BLUE circle cue ball that came with the original set of Aramith the poka dot ball plays almost exactly the same.
 
I don't adjust at all. I have both and can play immediately with either. I can't really tell a difference.
 
Tom:

Not to be nit-picky, but the world standards for pool balls are defined as follows:

Excerpt from the WPA rules:

"16. Balls and Ball Rack
All balls must be composed of cast phenolic resin plastic and measure 2 ¼ (+.005) inches [5.715 cm (+ .127 mm)] in diameter and weigh 5 ½ to 6 oz [156 to 170 gms]."

Indeed, when I weighed each ball in my Aramith Super Pro kit, each ball was exactly 5.875 (5 and 7/8) ounces. (I stand corrected on my previous post above where I mentioned the object balls were 5.75 ounce.)

I also re-weighed my measles ball (geniune Aramith Super Pro Cup, not the cheaper copy that's floating around the marketplace), and it weighed in at exactly 6.00 ounces on the nose.

I do notice a slight weight difference between my Aramith Red Circle, and the measles ball; the measles ball is a bit (and I mean only a bit) sluggish as compared to the Red Circle. Or, worded differently, the Red Circle seems a bit zippier -- especially on draw shots.

Hope this is helpful,
-Sean

Tom In Cincy said:
I won't begin to guess what the standards are for bar box balls (OBs or CBs)

But for the rest of the pool playing world, the standards are pretty well accepted as being 6 ounces for object balls and cue balls. There is an accepted tolerance for the weight and diameter.
Replacement OBs and CBs are still required to be a standard weight and diameter.

Older balls with lots of playing time will wear down and lose weight and diameter. If you've been playing with a RED Circle Cue ball that is 5 to 10 years old, it will play much lighter than a brand new RED Circle Cue ball and you will notice the difference.

The Poka dot ball weighs 6 ounces and is 2 and a quarter inches in diameter. Just like the standards require.

Adjustments will be required. But if you've been playing with the BLUE circle cue ball that came with the original set of Aramith the poka dot ball plays almost exactly the same.
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ouch!

Their own cue ball was a move plain and simple. Some of the old time gamblers wouldn't play unless they could sneak their own cue ball into the game. I would have kicked up a fuss the first time I found the measle ball.

Getting back to the subject though, my measle ball comes off of the rails pretty good but rolls a little long compared to a red circle. Knowing that, I don't have too much problem adjusting but I still quit practicing with the measle ball because I compete with a red circle. I don't know how it plays compared to the red dot ball.

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3RAILKICK said:
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How do you adjust (quickly) to playing with the 'measles' ball when you generally play w 'red dot'?

I chose to change shafts- I used 13mm instead of 12.5mm. I tried to make 'rolling shape' instead of a normal variety of shape options. It was harder than I thot.

Your experiences/suggestions? Note: Cash league-4 man teams /9 ball/last league night vying for 1st place-measles ball appeared unexpectedly. Our table only. 1st vs 2nd place teams playing each other. We lost.

Observations/comments other than the obvious sour grapes? Opponent returned measles ball to his case at conclusion of match. I didn't notice until match was underway-I didn't feel i could ask to change since we had already played 3 games. My bad -I should have paid more attention rather than practice w/red dot awaiting my turn.

Thanks

3railkick
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I don't consider it being 'nit picky' more like ACCURATE on your part (thanks for the link)

5 ½ to 6 oz (14 grams difference) and if it is 5 7/8 oz. that is certainly within specs.

If the red circle is 5 ½ oz and the poka dot ball is 6 oz (pretty much what everyone of them I weighed so far is) then of course they will play differently.

But, older balls, IMO, are what everyone is mostly having a problem with and getting use to. If you played with the older cue ball that probably weighs closer to the 5 ½ oz. that would really throw your game off using the newer poka dot ball.

sfleinen said:
Tom:

Not to be nit-picky, but the world standards for pool balls are defined as follows:

Excerpt from the WPA rules:

"16. Balls and Ball Rack
All balls must be composed of cast phenolic resin plastic and measure 2 ¼ (+.005) inches [5.715 cm (+ .127 mm)] in diameter and weigh 5 ½ to 6 oz [156 to 170 gms]."

Indeed, when I weighed each ball in my Aramith Super Pro kit, each ball was exactly 5.875 (5 and 7/8) ounces. (I stand corrected on my previous post above where I mentioned the object balls were 5.75 ounce.)

I also re-weighed my measles ball (geniune Aramith Super Pro Cup, not the cheaper copy that's floating around the marketplace), and it weighed in at exactly 6.00 ounces on the nose.

I do notice a slight weight difference between my Aramith Red Circle, and the measles ball; the measles ball is a bit (and I mean only a bit) sluggish as compared to the Red Circle. Or, worded differently, the Red Circle seems a bit zippier -- especially on draw shots.

Hope this is helpful,
-Sean
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The biggest thing I notice is you have to pay close attention when you are drawing the ball. The red circle almost draws itself while the measle requires a nice stroke. The mid range draw shots are a little tougher to control until you get use to the ball. Otherwise the ball rolls so true and squirts so much less than the red circle.
 
qb

3RAILKICK said:
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How do you adjust (quickly) to playing with the 'measles' ball when you generally play w 'red dot'? EDIT: RED CIRCLE/ NOT RED DOT

I chose to change shafts- I used 13mm instead of 12.5mm. I tried to make 'rolling shape' instead of a normal variety of shape options. It was harder than I thot.

Your experiences/suggestions? Note: Cash league-4 man teams /9 ball/last league night vying for 1st place-measles ball appeared unexpectedly. Our table only. 1st vs 2nd place teams playing each other. We lost.

Observations/comments other than the obvious sour grapes? Opponent returned measles ball to his case at conclusion of match. I didn't notice until match was underway-I didn't feel i could ask to change since we had already played 3 games. My bad -I should have paid more attention rather than practice w/red dot (actually red circle)awaiting my turn.

Thanks

3railkick
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o.k how about the difference in the measel qb and red circle????:confused::confused:
 
best advice

3RAILKICK said:
:confused:

How do you adjust (quickly) to playing with the 'measles' ball when you generally play w 'red dot'? EDIT: RED CIRCLE/ NOT RED DOT

I chose to change shafts- I used 13mm instead of 12.5mm. I tried to make 'rolling shape' instead of a normal variety of shape options. It was harder than I thot.

Your experiences/suggestions? Note: Cash league-4 man teams /9 ball/last league night vying for 1st place-measles ball appeared unexpectedly. Our table only. 1st vs 2nd place teams playing each other. We lost.

Observations/comments other than the obvious sour grapes? Opponent returned measles ball to his case at conclusion of match. I didn't notice until match was underway-I didn't feel i could ask to change since we had already played 3 games. My bad -I should have paid more attention rather than practice w/red dot (actually red circle)awaiting my turn.

Thanks

3railkick
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the best way to adjust is to pick up the measle ball and throw it in the closest trash can! and then put a red circle on the table and play proper pool!

Jeremy
 
Hey 3rail kick....I almost don't have to ask who the opponent was. (Asian dude, first name starts with an F?) I have a bit of trouble adjusting to the measle ball too. I wouldn't have let that go if it happened on position night.
 
DAMN -good guess

:p;)
CharlesUFarley said:
Hey 3rail kick....I almost don't have to ask who the opponent was. (Asian dude, first name starts with an F?) I have a bit of trouble adjusting to the measle ball too. I wouldn't have let that go if it happened on position night.
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Yeah, but I didn't notice until my game (4th game). I need to pay more attention. I learned something. You got to watch EVERYBODY, buddy!

Best wishes to you and the 'old lady'.

3railkick
 
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