growing up in the seventies, all the players in the pool room I frequented all wanted Meucci Cues. They seemed to be the cue of choice. It probably didn't hurt that I lived a few hundred miles from their manufacturing facility, so all the good players had one. Growing up, I always wanted one. Well, after marriage, the pool playing kind of faded away. Now, after about 25 years, I have begun to play again, and I finally got a Meucci. Not one of the high dollar ones, I think this one sold for about $300 retail, and I paid a lot less on EBay. I must say that after shooting with it, I was extremely disappointed. The shaft just didn't feel right, and didn't feel solid. I immediately sold it. I hope this is not a common thing, and I still want to own a Meucci, but I want to to be a high quality cue. Any comments or suggestions?
Meucci Cues
- Thread starter Mole Eye
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I've not played with the newer Meucci cues, but did play with a couple of different ones in the 1980's. I never liked them. I always thought the shafts we two flexible (whippy is what comes to mind). That being said...a lot of people had them and liked them.
Back then, I played with McDermotts, Heublers and Dufrins (mid-1980's). The McDermott was nice (one thing I remember is that the but was fatter than most other cues)...the more expensive Heubler's were nice (didn't like the less expensive ones...sounded funny when you hit) and the Duffrin was a cheap (1st) cue...but it was decent.
The one thing I remember about the early Meucci's is you could get a ton of English on the cue ball with that flexible shaft...I just never cared for the way they felt.
John
Back then, I played with McDermotts, Heublers and Dufrins (mid-1980's). The McDermott was nice (one thing I remember is that the but was fatter than most other cues)...the more expensive Heubler's were nice (didn't like the less expensive ones...sounded funny when you hit) and the Duffrin was a cheap (1st) cue...but it was decent.
The one thing I remember about the early Meucci's is you could get a ton of English on the cue ball with that flexible shaft...I just never cared for the way they felt.
John
Are you near Savannah? If so, a visit to this guy may impress you.
Meucci cues are like the old gray mare...not what they used to be.
http://www.joseycues.com/
Meucci cues are like the old gray mare...not what they used to be.
http://www.joseycues.com/
MoleEye , here's a great bit of advice for newer users (I notice you started with us in April , and currently have less than 50 posts ~ Welcome Aboard !):wave::welcome::wave3:
The SEARCH key is your friend ! It's on the toolbar , 3rd from the left . Want TONS of opinions on "Moochies" , both old & new ? Type it in , there's LOTS of discussion about them already out there !
The SEARCH key is your friend ! It's on the toolbar , 3rd from the left . Want TONS of opinions on "Moochies" , both old & new ? Type it in , there's LOTS of discussion about them already out there !
The newer Meucci's are JUNK! I have a few that were made right after they started the cursive logo and even they play 100x better than the newer ones. I lost about $200 on my newer stick but was glad to get rid of the p.o.s. as it was made very cheaply and the inlays looked like I did them...
I know that some of the newer Meucci's have problems with the shafts. Out to the 20+ of the newer Meucci's as well as the dozen or so Originals that I own, only one black dot shaft has a slight table roll in it. While not perfectly straight, it is still a good shooter. My son and I both have BMC Copperhead's, mine has two 13mm tip black dot shafts(both straight after a year or so in my possession), my son's has one black dot shaft with 12mm tip shaft.
I noticed a huge difference between the two cues from the very first shot, I skunked my son two games back to back with his cue. He won't let me use the cue ever again.
I tested the shaft from his cue with the butt of my cue and had the same result's. Both butt's weigh nearly the same and the balance point of the cue is very close.
I've come to conclusion that the glue that is used in making the laminated shafts has the same cure rate. In doing that the core will cure faster the the outer layers resulting in an eventual warp-age. Although I can't verify the glue cure rate at this time as I haven't talked to Bob about this yet.
I myself prefer the older cues to the newer ones as they aren't as front heavy.
I know that all cues are different in every way. It takes a well practiced hand to get the right cue, same as there is a car for every butt.
On a off note, Bob has resumed overseeing operations and is determined to turn things around.
I noticed a huge difference between the two cues from the very first shot, I skunked my son two games back to back with his cue. He won't let me use the cue ever again.
I tested the shaft from his cue with the butt of my cue and had the same result's. Both butt's weigh nearly the same and the balance point of the cue is very close.
I've come to conclusion that the glue that is used in making the laminated shafts has the same cure rate. In doing that the core will cure faster the the outer layers resulting in an eventual warp-age. Although I can't verify the glue cure rate at this time as I haven't talked to Bob about this yet.
I myself prefer the older cues to the newer ones as they aren't as front heavy.
I know that all cues are different in every way. It takes a well practiced hand to get the right cue, same as there is a car for every butt.
On a off note, Bob has resumed overseeing operations and is determined to turn things around.
As a young player the only custom cues I had were Meuccis. I still have one of my old ones and like all the others, it continues to play great and is still straight as an arrow.
Unfortunately, time has not been good to Meucci and their quality and even their customer service.
As someone suggested, you can do a search here and you can read on the subject for days, one unhappy customer after another.
Bottom line: If you really want a Meucci, get one that says Meucci Originals in block letters on the butt cap. These are of the same excellent quality that you remember from the old days. They can be found fairly easy either here on the For Sale forum or on eBay.
The ones that are much more likely to dissapoint have "Meucci" in cursive letters, also on the buttcap.
I noticed that another member provided you with a link to Josey Cues. This is a great cuemaker and a great guy to deal with plus he is quite reasonable.
Good luck.
Best,
Brian kc
Unfortunately, time has not been good to Meucci and their quality and even their customer service.
As someone suggested, you can do a search here and you can read on the subject for days, one unhappy customer after another.
Bottom line: If you really want a Meucci, get one that says Meucci Originals in block letters on the butt cap. These are of the same excellent quality that you remember from the old days. They can be found fairly easy either here on the For Sale forum or on eBay.
The ones that are much more likely to dissapoint have "Meucci" in cursive letters, also on the buttcap.
I noticed that another member provided you with a link to Josey Cues. This is a great cuemaker and a great guy to deal with plus he is quite reasonable.
Good luck.
Best,
Brian kc
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Possible evidence of Bob Meucci trying to get things turned around is *gasp* an attempt at customer service!
I emailed about a flawed joint collar design, and instead of giving me a price for repair I was told to send it in and they'd correct it. Hopefully I'm more impressed with this repair than my last- an abortion of a refinish on my Meucci Originals cue that was my first "real" cue... time will tell
I emailed about a flawed joint collar design, and instead of giving me a price for repair I was told to send it in and they'd correct it. Hopefully I'm more impressed with this repair than my last- an abortion of a refinish on my Meucci Originals cue that was my first "real" cue... time will tell
MoleEye , here's a great bit of advice for newer users (I notice you started with us in April , and currently have less than 50 posts ~ Welcome Aboard !):wave::welcome::wave3:
The SEARCH key is your friend ! It's on the toolbar , 3rd from the left . Want TONS of opinions on "Moochies" , both old & new ? Type it in , there's LOTS of discussion about them already out there !
Mole eye , redinda has a bad attitude. The Forum is a forum. That is, a place where people can talk to one another. Otherwise we could have put this whole thing together as an alphabetical index after the first 2 years.
If a member refers you to something specific posted in the past , that's cool. But to tell you to go look it up is bullshit.
Thanks for the replies. As for the search button, I appreciate the tip, because I really didn't know about it. I still like to get my 2 cents worth in though. I was hoping that Meucci still produced SOME high quality cues, but it doesn't sound like they are there yet. Maybe they'll get it right before the imports put them out of business. That and poor quality
I bought my first Meucci at a pool hall in Milwaukee in 1980. It was used Larry Hubbart L-2, and I bought it because it was pretty and I thought I could make a buck re-selling it. I put it in the closet and forgot about it for a couple months. Then I found myself in a bit of a slump and decided to try the Meucci. I broke and ran my first six racks and used the cue for the next seven years with some success. When I retired for a couple years in '87, I sold the cue to a friend and really regret doing so. And he won't sell it back!! Anyway, I've owned some 9 Meuccis since. All the old ones played great, especially a 1999 Sneaky Pete that I played with from '91 to '93 when it was stolen. I bought two of the production Meuccis (post 1989) and found them not to play nearly as well, and amazingly, when I switched shafts on these two brand new cues, I found that they didn't line up at the joint! I currently own three MEUCCI ORIGINALS, an 84-4, an 84-5 and an MO-4 from 1974! They all play very nicely, and are for sale at the right price.
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I have been playing with an meucci org for about 20years,it is from the 70s,this cue is priceless to me,this cue is very flexable and does spin the ball better then any other cue out there,to me making it the best 1pocket playing cue avaliable!
My 95-8 is a or the remake of the MO-4 and I love it! Simple 2 point design, and I've owned it for 10 years as my Father bought it for me for my 21st birthday and it was my first cue. I hope to get Ryan at Meullers to refinish it for me when I get my Jim Lee in (if I dont die first.....lol). My repair guy cleaned up the shaft for me and it feels "brand new" today and its the original shaft. He does a helluva job on it and I love it. Had to get rid of the cheap LePro tip though, I hate them. Moori Soft for me and I can get some serious spin on it...
Edit: I think the 95-8 is a remake of the M-4, not MO-4 like I originally said. I'm generally wrong with this stuff....lol
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You did nothing wrong bro. We enjoy helping or we wouldnt have replied to your thread. Some people just have to gripe or they are not happy. I dont care how many posts there are on a subject, the answers are not the same so why search is my thoughts. When people get on here and get smartass to people like you that are "new" to forums that is what scares you off from posting again and that defeats the purpose of even having a message board.
You are correct if Bob Meucci doesnt get this straight he'll go down. As long as he has let it go down though it might be "too late". He shouldnt have waited this long, all the while trying to make el cheapo cues across seas hurt too. They were probably in better shape that the new Meuccis though. Thats how bad its gotten in Mississippi....