is it too late to say FIRST!!!
Mexicans playing pool
- Thread starter corvette1340
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corvette1340 said:
I love you ......
not in a gay way or anything ( not that there is anything wrong with that)
corvette1340 said:
Next week they are gonna put Roundup on all your plants and shrubs:wink:
BigCat said:
ahh ...what???
where did he say anything about "Mexicans" in particular.... he said ILLEGAL folkks should be sent home...
I mean hell it is illegal after all
Dead Money said:
I wish the hell they would, then I could pay them to take all the dead stuff away and be done with all of that shrubery.
smokeandapancak said:
you are correct smoke. I have nothing against Mexicans or any hispanic people as long as they are in this country legally.
nfty9er said:
I have to disagree, they picked up the cue stick and played of their own accord. They earned the money and they lost it, if they believed it was an unfair game it is up to them to either stop playing or get more weight to make the odds more even. I earn my money and if I get in a bad game is it my opponents fault? Should he have to give me back the money he won from me? I think not. And by the way, they mowed his lawn and trimmed and whatever lawn people do. They are not on a payroll and I am sure they don't get tax's taken out, they didn't pay SS. So your looking at this in the wrong perspective. Even if you were to gamble with a young hotshot in your room that works for you and he loses, are you going to say... here is your money back, don't worry about the lesson you just learned, I don't mind, we can play any time as long as I win, since I am going to give you your money back anyways. You don't think that gives pool a bad name? I do, I don't think I want to go near your room. If I am giving someone the eight and he is still losing by 3 games I am by no means obligated to say, "Hey lets change the spot, I am stealing from you." I would get a bad rep for that in any pool hall in my area, I would be the target of every player trying to get me into a bad game. I will tell you what, they wouldn't do that for me! It's the loser's job to recognize when he is in a bad game and change it, not the winners.
smokeandapancak said:
His OP stated this "So I get home yesterday and a team of Mexicans were cutting my grass...". This is the statement to which I was referring. The truth is, he may not know what country they are from, but is just using the term "Mexican" as a generalization.
And I agree that illegal immigrants should not be allowed to work, or obtain any other benefits in the U.S. That is what makes his position of employing them contridictary and hypocritical.
Ray
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i was going off of what you had quoted........
i understand what you are saying now.
i understand what you are saying now.
BigCat said:
Yes, they are indeed Mexican and they are going to be here whether I like it or not simply because there is not enough man power to deport all illegals. If the team of illegals were from different ethnic groups then I would have stated that. The fact that a major chicken plant is here makes it much worse in this general area. I figure, if they are going to be here anyway, then I'm gonna take advantage of them in the same manner that they are taking advantage of me and my tax dollars. And if it means that I can save extra money by beating these idiots at pool then I'm gonna do that too.
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How do immigrants take advantage of our health-care system? It seems to me that most hospitals don't take people who don't have health insurance and most people who don't have legal jobs are unlikely to have health insurance. Hell, a lot of people who do have legal jobs don't have health insurance.
And I guess for the time being there are still some schools that they can enroll their children into without fear of being arrested when they pick their children up. But how are they taking advantage of our "education" system? They pay rent, buy groceries, gas, lotto tickets and other things that contribute to the tax base. So what if they don't pay income tax or SS, they are probably in an income tax bracket where they aren't going to pay tax anyway. And if they don't pay into SS then they get nothing out of it either.
And if they want to gamble with their income then that is their choice.
By the way, what is the difference between paying the kid down the block $50 to wash your car and paying an illegal immigrant? Nothing.
Or paying Fred Jones Lawn Service? Do you check Fred Jones to make sure he has a business license and a landscaping degree before you turn him loose on your grass?
Anyone who has ever paid anyone else for work "under the table" is guilty of tax evasion so get off the high horse. Every single person on this board has either paid someone this way or done work this way at some point in their lives. It's the way society works, irrespective of laws that seek to reign in human nature.
Quick show of hands; how many of us want to live in a world where we check each other's credentials with every meeting and turn each other in to the Gestapo when we find a "violator"? Aren't we living in a country that is supposed to hold as it's highest ideal the very freedoms we are eroding?
And I guess for the time being there are still some schools that they can enroll their children into without fear of being arrested when they pick their children up. But how are they taking advantage of our "education" system? They pay rent, buy groceries, gas, lotto tickets and other things that contribute to the tax base. So what if they don't pay income tax or SS, they are probably in an income tax bracket where they aren't going to pay tax anyway. And if they don't pay into SS then they get nothing out of it either.
And if they want to gamble with their income then that is their choice.
By the way, what is the difference between paying the kid down the block $50 to wash your car and paying an illegal immigrant? Nothing.
Or paying Fred Jones Lawn Service? Do you check Fred Jones to make sure he has a business license and a landscaping degree before you turn him loose on your grass?
Anyone who has ever paid anyone else for work "under the table" is guilty of tax evasion so get off the high horse. Every single person on this board has either paid someone this way or done work this way at some point in their lives. It's the way society works, irrespective of laws that seek to reign in human nature.
Quick show of hands; how many of us want to live in a world where we check each other's credentials with every meeting and turn each other in to the Gestapo when we find a "violator"? Aren't we living in a country that is supposed to hold as it's highest ideal the very freedoms we are eroding?
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Guess u don't comprehend well
First of all what u are saying has nothing to do with the point. You do not steal from employees. First it is immoral and second not too smart. Think of the possible consequeces. Like what someone said maybe Roundup on the lawn. Do you not get it? Your scenario has nothing to do with an employee. And no room owner in his right mind would play an employee for money.
And in case you did not know it, it's against the law to hire anyone w/o paying taxes and it goes both ways. So they are both illegal. Get it?
rcarson said:
First of all what u are saying has nothing to do with the point. You do not steal from employees. First it is immoral and second not too smart. Think of the possible consequeces. Like what someone said maybe Roundup on the lawn. Do you not get it? Your scenario has nothing to do with an employee. And no room owner in his right mind would play an employee for money.
And in case you did not know it, it's against the law to hire anyone w/o paying taxes and it goes both ways. So they are both illegal. Get it?
Everyone knows Mexicans can't play pool. Be sure that if you come to Southern California, make sure to play the ones named Ernesto, Ismael, Oscar, Bernardo, Marcos, Luis, Elias, Francisco, Frank, and most of all be sure to play the 1/4 Mexican named Corey - you know those 1/4 breed's are suckers for sure!
Be sure to bring a hell of a lot more than $25 though, cause those guys are all big, big suckers and like to lose a lot more than $25.
Be sure to bring a hell of a lot more than $25 though, cause those guys are all big, big suckers and like to lose a lot more than $25.
We have a room in PHX called Lucky Cue, it is in a Mexican Area, and they have several (3) Cushion players that are BETTER than real good.
gamble
say what you want about mexicans but they love to gamble and will lose everything they got and then some as long as you are not cheating them they will keep playing. i have taken some of the biggest scores off in dallas in some mexican pool rooms, you could walk into these places and think that there is not 30.00 to be won in this type of room but meanwhile you could very easily walk out of there with thousands, i know i did and continue to do it to this day.
say what you want about mexicans but they love to gamble and will lose everything they got and then some as long as you are not cheating them they will keep playing. i have taken some of the biggest scores off in dallas in some mexican pool rooms, you could walk into these places and think that there is not 30.00 to be won in this type of room but meanwhile you could very easily walk out of there with thousands, i know i did and continue to do it to this day.
cost of illegal labor
John,
According to the state of Oklahoma they found that the illegal workers in Oklahoma cost the state a total of $30 an hour for every hour an illegal worked. This was the drain on the entire social system. Illegal labor isn't cheap, it is actually very expensive. It is only cheap for the employer. That is why I do favor making employers responsible for knowing the legal status of their workers. Fines in line with what their illegal laborers actually cost our society and triple damages for repeat offenders. A prison sentence isn't out of line for flagrant or repeat offenders either.
If we need more workers, we need legal channels to hire them. The fact is that most people who hire illegals hire them because they don't want to pay fair market price for the work performed. If a business can't survive without employing illegal workers it shouldn't survive.
Hu
John,
According to the state of Oklahoma they found that the illegal workers in Oklahoma cost the state a total of $30 an hour for every hour an illegal worked. This was the drain on the entire social system. Illegal labor isn't cheap, it is actually very expensive. It is only cheap for the employer. That is why I do favor making employers responsible for knowing the legal status of their workers. Fines in line with what their illegal laborers actually cost our society and triple damages for repeat offenders. A prison sentence isn't out of line for flagrant or repeat offenders either.
If we need more workers, we need legal channels to hire them. The fact is that most people who hire illegals hire them because they don't want to pay fair market price for the work performed. If a business can't survive without employing illegal workers it shouldn't survive.
Hu
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nfty9er said:
So, your saying you have NEVER done anything Illegal? Do you have gambling in your pool hall? Do you have a license? Or do you not need one because in your City, County, State it is not against the law to gamble in non sanctioned establishments. Also have you never had the kid who lives down the block mow your lawn and then paid him? Or is that different? Have you never purchased a cup of lemonade from a child who setup a lemonade stand? If you going to be a purponant of not hiring people under the table then your dumper better be squeaky clean!
What an idea! Maybe I can take off the other people who provide services for me too.
I'm sure the guy who changes the oil in my car has no chance of beating me in 9-ball.
The gal who does my taxes would certainly be outclassed if we matched up in some straight pool.
The kid who tosses the newspaper would easily get trapped if I could steer him into a bank pool game.
When the electric utility folks call for payment of my bill, I'll ask if they want to do some One Hole instead, race to three. They can have all the breaks!
I'm sure the guy who changes the oil in my car has no chance of beating me in 9-ball.
The gal who does my taxes would certainly be outclassed if we matched up in some straight pool.
The kid who tosses the newspaper would easily get trapped if I could steer him into a bank pool game.
When the electric utility folks call for payment of my bill, I'll ask if they want to do some One Hole instead, race to three. They can have all the breaks!