Mike Sigel 150 & Out vs Jim Rempe

Nice find.
Cruel game this straight pool.
Rempe didn't deserve that.
I guess I happens to us all.
Now I gotta watch Mike run out.
 
dmgwalsh said:
Steve: It's from the 1989 US Open. No Commentary. Accu-stats sold it as a vhs but never converted it to dvd.
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I have that one in my collection as well as the one where Mike goes 150 & out on Mike Zuglan in the 1992 US Open Straight Pool Championship.
The commentary by the late Grady Matthews & Weenie Beenie Bill Staton is almost as good as Mike's play. Zuglan was a great sport about the whole thing too.

Accu-stats still sells it for $19.95 + shipping.

http://www.1vshop.com/Accu-Stats/store.cgi?CMD=011&PROD=1181085191&PNAME=Mike+Sigel+vs.+Mike+Zuglan%2A+%28DVD%29
 
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To illustrate the vagaries and even "streakiness" of any professional and amateur pool career, the day after Sigel's outstanding 150-and-out performance here against Rempe, in this same 1989 Chicago US Open, with puzzlingly zero self-confidence, he figuratively "couldn't make a ball" against Mizerak. Pro 14.1 is indeed a "man-killer" as Mosconi often asserted.

Miz easily defeated him 150-8 in one of Mike's worst pro 14.1 performances ever. I'm an ultra-huge Sigel fan and felt badly for him, although Steve's smooth Mosconi-reminiscent playing certainly merited the victory that night against Mike. (Btw, both Ortmann and Miz played horribly (as they themselves admitted) in the looong, error-filled final match, which was won by Oliver.) I flew to Chicago just to watch this entire 1989 US open tournament.

Arnaldo (lifelong 14.1 addict)
 
Mike never had a stop shot key ball the entire run up until the last rack.
hmmm...
 
michael4 said:
I don't get the safety, looks like Rempe had an easy shot into the lower right corner??

(hard to tell for sure on this poor video however)
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kinda hard to tell, from the looks of it Jim was frozen to the backside of that ball he played safe off of. I am sure Jim played the right shot at the time, he just didnt look it over well enough to see what he was going to be leaving afterwards. i think his intention was to freeze Mike up against the backside of the 10, Jim just hit it too softly.....Something that i would do...LOL
 
stevekur1 said:
kinda hard to tell, from the looks of it Jim was frozen to the backside of that ball he played safe off of. I am sure Jim played the right shot at the time, he just didnt look it over well enough to see what he was going to be leaving afterwards. i think his intention was to freeze Mike up against the backside of the 10, Jim just hit it too softly.....Something that i would do...LOL
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It is an interesting position. If he had rolled a little farther he would have blocked the ball in the side but left the long cut down the rail which Sigel probably would have made. His best move might have been to just touch the cue ball and leave it for Sigel and be willing to take three fouls and re-rack.

The shot Sigel made at 6:00 was subtle but sweet. Perfect angle off the rail to bump the balls where he wanted them. It is hard for a banger like me to imagine somebody is that good.
 
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michael4 said:
I don't get the safety, looks like Rempe had an easy shot into the lower right corner??

(hard to tell for sure on this poor video however)
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There was no direct shot at the OB you're referring to because the ball nearest the CB was certainly occluding the path to it or Rempe would have instantly taken the hypothetical shot. I was at this Rempe-Sigel 1989 match in Chicago.

However, there was so little occlusion, that a soft-masse possibility to pocket the ball in that lower right corner did exist. Efren pulled several of those off during his infrequent 14.1 tournament ventures over the years to stay at the table. Were Efren in Rempe's situation I believe he'd have attempted (and made) the masse shot.

I've never seen Efren miss one. But I'd agree that Rempe's attempted lock-up safety was the right shot for himself. I think that the fully understandable frustration at his truly bad luck at having no reasonable shot after coming with that long-odds money shot on the 9-ball, kind of threw off his execution of the safety shot he intended.

I also think Rempe momentarily considered that he might foul the occluding OB if he attempted the soft-masse.

Arnaldo
 
thank you, Steve!

i like this even better than the 150 against Zuglan, even though it's not as clean. some exciting play, and i'm way impressed by how much trouble he goes to in order to not bump any balls.
 
Mike looked to be snookered at 38:10 and found a dead 9 ball in the rack which kept him going. From the camera angle it is difficult to see how he made it (multiple ball combination and carom?) but it was a fantastic shot!
 
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stevekur1 said:
Hey Guys,

I was cruising YouTube on my TV and i came across this 150 & Out by Mike Sigel vs Jim Rempe not sure which event this was from, but it is a great Classic run from back in the day !!!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c7we59K8kms

Steve
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Hi Steve,

1989 IW Harper 14.1 Championship, Chicago. Congress Hotel. I kept score all week for some of the matches for Don Feeney, (not this one), but I watched it live. What a blast it was for a 19 year old! Rubbing shoulders with the greats, Oliver Ortman won I believe? What a great week.

Kevin
 
Hal2 said:
Mike looked to be snookered at 38:10 and found a dead 9 ball in the rack which kept him going. From the camera angle it is difficult to see how he made it (multiple ball combination and carom?) but it was a fantastic shot!
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Here's slo-mo of Sigel’s gutsy out-of-the-pack shot at 38:10 that enabled his 150-and-out run to continue (he's going for the high-run money prize, needless to say).

Clip is shown first at normal speed, then at 1/8 slo-mo. Four balls are involved in combo, plus the 2-ball's whisker of a carom off the 8-ball before final two balls are struck by the 2-ball. Both portions of the clip kept long-ish for better scrutiny and drama:

https://youtu.be/S2QvVtWBoDE

Enjoy.

Arnaldo
 
arnaldo said:
Here's slo-mo of Sigel’s gutsy out-of-the-pack shot at 38:10 that enabled his 150-and-out run to continue (he's going for the high-run money prize, needless to say).

Clip is shown first at normal speed, then at 1/8 slo-mo. Four balls are involved in combo, plus the 2-ball's whisker of a carom off the 8-ball before final two balls are struck by the 2-ball. Both portions of the clip kept long-ish for better scrutiny and drama:

https://youtu.be/S2QvVtWBoDE

Enjoy.

Arnaldo
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thanks for that Arnaldo, looks like the ball brushed the rail on the way in too !!!

plus he almost didnt have a shot afterwards.

I saw the shot the whole time, i wonder if Mike was playing it up to be the showman that he was. love it when he says "Wait a Minute, Wait a Minute"

-Steve
 
Arnaldo, thank you very much for providing the slow motion and posting it. Mike read that shot/rack perfectly. Another guy that can do that so very well, is Danny Diliberto. I learned to read racks from him. Once he told me that the cue ball was going airborne after hitting a Custer of balls and making a combo (which it did). Thanks again, Hal
 
Glad you enjoyed it, Hal. As you'll already know, there was a lot more pool physics to that shot than initially meets the eye.

Lay the long edge of a business card along the centerline of the final two balls (the 3 and the 9) and it's alarmingly evident that the shot was actually aligned to miss the corner pocket by more than 8 inches or so.

Mike eventually perceived, and was counting on, the 3-ball cutting the nine into the corner after the 3 was impacted by the 2-ball.

Who doesn't love finding one of these far from wired beauties when faced with the all-but-certain prospect that your nice log run has ended.

Btw, that's an impressive list of old-school classic type cues you own plus modern incarnations. Those are what I commonly saw when starting out in Straight Pool in my NYC neighborhoods in the early 1950's, with more than a few Rambows also used by some of the then-oldtimers (all of them Depression era gamblers).

I bought a nice Palmer for myself in 1965 out of their first catalog -- a 19-ounce #5 model. Still own it, but I've played with Predators and others for the last 45 years or so. I'll probably sell the Palmer in the next year or two.

Arnaldo
 
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