Mike Sigel vs. Loree Jon Jones

[sjm]

Do you also realize that LLJ has retired from the WPBA and that the promoter will not have to pay any WPBA sanction fees for her to play?

Barbara

I didn't, Barbara. Loree Jon played some WPBA events in 2004, and I do not recall an announcement of her retirement from WPBA play. I figured maybe I just missed the announcement, so I checked all the AZB headlines (a couple of years worth of them) using search and also checked all the press releases in 2005 on WPBA.com. Neither had anything about Loree Jon's retirement, which, surely, would have been a very big news item in the world of women's pool, as Loree Jon is one of women's pool's best ever.

Of course, if you're right and Loree Jon has retired and is no longer a member of the WPBA, it all makes a lot of sense, as WPBA sanctioning/recognition fees are, to my knowledge, based on the total purse of a sanctioned event, and would have been pretty high on this occasion. Of course, as you know, I'd rather see the WPBA get something here, but if Loree Jon is no longer one of their own, they won't.

Whatever the facts are, I'm sure Loree Jon will try to represent herself and women's pool well.

 

[EL'nino]

You are right, SJM. The difference is this is marketing at it's best. If, no when, Mike beats Loree, everyone will say the same thing you just did. Then you have the, Sigel v Fisher/Corr, match which will generate even more interest and $$$. Absolutely nothing wrong with this either. This has the potential of pumping up the money high enough that you end up with an Efren, or similar, v Fisher/Corr for a TON of money. All great marketing.

Did you say Efren vs allison Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha He He He He He He

 

[accdealer]

With all due respect to LJJ, this matchup is totally ridiculous. And any of you out there who think that because it's 8-ball rather than 9-ball gives her a better chance are just fooling yourselves. Frankly, while I'm also happy for both players because they will have a nice payday, I can't see how this organization can possibly put up 225k for this event. I mean, do they think that people from all over are going to fly to Vegas to watch this slaughtering? LJJ has been great for the sport and in her time was a dominant female player, but to call her the 'greatest female player of all-time'
is just flat out dishonesty and false advertising. While some may find this event a landmark, I find it to be quite disturbing.

In general, this is more of an exhibition than anything else. Personally, I never liked events like this because it doesn't give the players an opportunity to really get down and dirty and play hard. They're both guaranteed a large payoff and really have nothing to lose. I would much rather watch them each put up 10k and go for each others throats. Take 2 players like say Charlie Williams and Tony Robles for example. Two men who are very friendly and if they did an exhibition, would probably laugh and joke and pat each other on the back and so on. But, watch them play a tournament match with the cheese on the line and they'll both be all business. I mean, who wants to watch a player dog it and say, oh well, guess I'll just have to settle for the 75k, which is more than I'd make winning multiple pro tournaments anyway.

 

[chefjeff]

With all due respect to LJJ, this matchup is totally ridiculous. And any of you out there who think that because it's 8-ball rather than 9-ball gives her a better chance are just fooling yourselves. Frankly, while I'm also happy for both players because they will have a nice payday, I can't see how this organization can possibly put up 225k for this event. I mean, do they think that people from all over are going to fly to Vegas to watch this slaughtering? LJJ has been great for the sport and in her time was a dominant female player, but to call her the 'greatest female player of all-time'
is just flat out dishonesty and false advertising. While some may find this event a landmark, I find it to be quite disturbing.

In general, this is more of an exhibition than anything else. Personally, I never liked events like this because it doesn't give the players an opportunity to really get down and dirty and play hard. They're both guaranteed a large payoff and really have nothing to lose. I would much rather watch them each put up 10k and go for each others throats. Take 2 players like say Charlie Williams and Tony Robles for example. Two men who are very friendly and if they did an exhibition, would probably laugh and joke and pat each other on the back and so on. But, watch them play a tournament match with the cheese on the line and they'll both be all business. I mean, who wants to watch a player dog it and say, oh well, guess I'll just have to settle for the 75k, which is more than I'd make winning multiple pro tournaments anyway.

Let me get this straight....you'd rather have a $20,000 pot made up of players' money instead of a $225,000 purse from a promoter/sponsors???!!!???

Jeff Livingston

 

[Timberly]

Let me get this straight....you'd rather have a $20,000 pot made up of players' money instead of a $225,000 purse from a promoter/sponsors???!!!???

Jeff Livingston

I would rather see a promoter/sponsor put up that money for a pro tournament.... today's players in a real tournament. Not 2 of yesterday's players in a match that's determined before it ever starts.

 

[JustPlay]

The match up between Sigel and Jones is really not the focus of what Kevin Traudau is trying to accomplish, at least I think its not. I think it is about bringing big money to pool with bigger payouts. Look at poker and its big payouts, then look how big it took off in popularity. More and more people, corporations, and media will take notice if this gets off the ground. Most everyone involved in pool will want to participate in a event that has 50K- 100K in prize funds going to the winner and runner up. Isn't that been the goal over the last 25 years for professional pool here in the US?


Also, as players, both are respected in pool as players and business persons. I also think that for tv viewers, both Sigel and Jones fit the physical profile we are used to seeing on tv. The match between the two may not be on the square, but maybe, future matches just might. And for this kind of money, Jean Balukas could be the next player to play for that 100K first prize.
Seeing here play again infront of the camera would be great and great for pool altogether. Maybe even see Allison Fisher V. Jean Balukas? Endless possiblities...Queen Jean V. the Ice Queen- great headline!

In another thread, that I posted, I critized this match between the two. But talking with a friend of mine, he saw it from a different angle and alot of things he said made sense. That is why I am posting these thoughts here...I most likely be in Vegas to see this match, I hope and will let you know what the outcome and how it was received..

Kevin Traudau could be the key to big money professional pool in the US...Lets hope so.

 

[chefjeff]

Is there a real line on this tournament?

Jeff Livingston

 

[9 Ball Girl]

I still say they should've gotten Jean Balukas--if she would do it. That would be one helluva matchup!

 

[JustPlay]

I still say they should've gotten Jean Balukas--if she would do it. That would be one helluva matchup!

Dont count Jean out. For this kind of money, it is a real good posiblity she would play if this event goes over well...

 

[StevenPWaldon]

Totally agree re: Balukas. I think everyone here would pony up some serious cash to put her in a long race format with a big name (Earl, Allison, Karen, Johnny).

Oh, to dream!

 

[opcoog]

ljj is nice, but the matchup with sigel is a joke. I realize they need a buildup before they throw corr or fisher at the men, but their should be no doubt who will win this. put one of those ladies against mike and it should be a close match. they are head and shoulders above any of the other top ladies. I will look forward to seeing this in the future. I do believe the payout for this is a little ridiculous. That should be when allison or corr play, not llj.

 

[PoolBum]

I still say they should've gotten Jean Balukas--if she would do it. That would be one helluva matchup!

I for one would also love to see Jean play. I wish she'd never quit playing the women's tour. I don't think she'd beat Allison, or Karen in top form, but they don't have to win, and it sure would be great to see.

 

[justnum]

A fantasy billiard match

Fans love to talk about which matchups should take place. I bet room owners could use this concept.


Probably find their best league player to take on a well known pro, then stream it. At least you know league players will watch it.

 

[RunoutJJ]

Great Idea but I think most League players rather watch any other sporting event. Hell they would probably watch soccer before this. Sorry to be so negative but its the facts

 

[whammo57]

Fans love to talk about which matchups should take place. I bet room owners could use this concept.


Probably find their best league player to take on a well known pro, then stream it. At least you know league players will watch it.

Justnum.....................

why are you dredging up this 6 year old shitttt????

this is the 3rd one you have posted about..............

you don't have to comment on stuff in the archives..

no one cares about it..............

Kim

 

[Nostroke]

Justnum.....................

why are you dredging up this 6 year old shitttt????

this is the 3rd one you have posted about..............

you don't have to comment on stuff in the archives..

no one cares about it..............

Kim

He is some sort of BOT.

 

[justnum]

He is some sort of BOT.

even BOTs have a right to post as long as it follows the guidelines of the posting rules.

 

[The Chinchilla]

even BOTs have a right to post as long as it follows the guidelines of the posting rules.

I don't see the problem with it These forums are self curing; if nobody cares the thread..... goes away by itself. Tadaaaa.

Post away if you feel like it.