Million Dollar Idea for Pool???

nicksaint26

nicksaint26

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So here is my million dollar idea for pool:

If 100 of the top players in the world came up with a 10k a man that would be a Million Dollars in payouts. That 10k would be spread over 10 tournaments so essential 1k per tournament. You could have 1 tourny a month for 10 months and reward a certain amount of points based on where you finish. At the end of the 10 events the 64 players with the most points would be entered into the Million Dollar Tournament (number of players is open for discussion for final tourny). Payouts would need to be determined as well as possibly paying a certain amount out for each of the qualifiers. Please remember this is a rought draft but it would be kind of like how poker does the WSOP events.

This could be done in addition to the other prestegious events i.e US Open, DCC and Ultimate 10Ball as I would not want to see any of the current promoters affected because I think they work really hard and do a great job. I think poker has the right idea and pool needs to follow the model they have currently in place.

Nick St. Jean
 
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Allen Hopkins

"Million-Dollar Nine-ball Shootout. Retrieved May 20, 2007 NOTE: The Million Dollar Shootout was not a success and ran only 1 year, much like the DMIRO Tour which was backed by Allen"
 
Unless you mean that each player has to bring 10 cardboard cutouts of the letter K, this isn't going to work.
 
And what do players pay right now in travel expenses when the payouts are no where near a million Doouble D? Stupid for players to play for 250k for 1st and then750k inaddionals payouts with such a small field? You are right stupid idea entry fees and travel expenses don't cost players 10 k a yea right? Was just an idea man tough crowd
 
nicksaint26 said:
So here is my million dollar idea for pool:

If 100 of the top players in the world came up with a 10k a man that would be a Million Dollars in payouts. That 10k would be spread over 10 tournaments so essential 1k per tournament. You could have 1 tourny a month for 10 months and reward a certain amount of points based on where you finish. At the end of the 10 events the 64 players with the most points would be entered into the Million Dollar Tournament (number of players is open for discussion for final tourny). Payouts would need to be determined as well as possibly paying a certain amount out for each of the qualifiers. Please remember this is a rought draft but it would be kind of like how poker does the WSOP events.

This could be done in addition to the other prestegious events i.e US Open, DCC and Ultimate 10Ball as I would not want to see any of the current promoters affected because I think they work really hard and do a great job. I think poker has the right idea and pool needs to follow the model they have currently in place.

Nick St. Jean
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I'm going to be mean, but please note that I mean this to ALL people who think that the AMOUNT of money is what makes it entertaining.

It's absolutely RETARDED. Basketball would still entertain millions of people EVEN IF the people were paid minimum wage. The only difference would be the quality of players that such wages generated and retained. People don't watch tennis or golf because the payouts are high. They watch because they expect the play to be excellent and the difficulty to be at the threshold of human ability -- and understand the threshold that's required (at least to some degree). That's it.

Sure, the production quality of high-budget-sports is top-notch. But that budget is only there because it was entertaining in the first place.

I hate that this is true... but pool will probably never be mainstream for as long as it exists: The most sensational shot is as boring to 90% of humans than the dullest moment of a UFC match... because (and here's the sticking point) the game is ENCRYPTED. No one understands what makes a shot difficult vs. easy.

Idea: Have all Pro events have an Am component where they have to perform the toughest shot of the match... and if any Am successfully executes it, Am wins some amount of money that's adequate to make people pay attention. This sort of lottery mentality seems to appeal to poker watchers -- whom which for the life of me I'll never be able to relate to... as they expect vicariously rewarded for luck. Imagine.

But.... if people saw how difficult it were for average joes to execute the shot of the match, maybe they'd recognize the difference between what they can conceptualize and how difficult it is to execute.
 
MahnaMahna said:
Unless you mean that each player has to bring 10 cardboard cutouts of the letter K, this isn't going to work.
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I guess the OP has never had to pay to go to a major event so he has no idea about expenses. He has certainly never organized a major event. How much does he expect to pay for the venues? How about the tournament staff?

So you get SVB and Orcollo and Bustamante to sign up and then you ask #53 who has never won a major tournament if he would like to put up $10k and commit to playing in 10 tournaments for the joy and honor of getting his brains beat out 10 times.

I suppose it could make sense if you first found 100 backers who were not too bright.
 
I probably should have thought about it a little more so the criticism is fair. The idea would be #53 would just need to place high enough in each of the qualifiers so he had earned enough points to play in the Million Dollar Tourny with say only 50 of the 100 players qualifying based on how they placed in the 10 events.

If #53 enters tourny's now with the dismal payouts I guess I don't get your point. They are paying travel expenses and entry fees now to play SVB, Orcollo and Bustamante for payouts of what 10k maybe for 1st LOL? I guess I look at the poker model and see it as a model that could work for pool but again I could absolutely be 100% wrong.

Maybe someone like ESPN would air the Million Dollar Tourny and sponsorships could be picked up along the way. Again I probably should have thought about it some more just sick of where pool is at and all the Bonus Ball stuff.

FYI Bob I live with a pro so I absolutely know all about the expenses involved
 
hang-the-9 said:
Allen Hopkins

"Million-Dollar Nine-ball Shootout. Retrieved May 20, 2007 NOTE: The Million Dollar Shootout was not a success and ran only 1 year, much like the DMIRO Tour which was backed by Allen"
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thats correct it was the $60,000 shit-out, sadly. I was really hoping Allen would find success with it, and the economy was stronger back then, one players backer pulled him out when they saw how few people actually posted the $$$. Allen kept his word and ran the event which again shows his heart and commitment to pool. noboy would post the 10 bones back then, nowadays they might get 3 players.

its nice to talk about but aint ever gonna happen, in light of everything that is going on, few top players have 10 dimes to risk on something like in the OP, and add in travel, forget it:(
 
nicksaint26 said:
I probably should have thought about it a little more so the criticism is fair. The idea would be #53 would just need to place high enough in each of the qualifiers so he had earned enough points to play in the Million Dollar Tourny with say only 50 of the 100 players qualifying based on how they placed in the 10 events.

If #53 enters tourny's now with the dismal payouts I guess I don't get your point. They are paying travel expenses and entry fees now to play SVB, Orcollo and Bustamante for payouts of what 10k maybe for 1st LOL? I guess I look at the poker model and see it as a model that could work for pool but again I could absolutely be 100% wrong.

Maybe someone like ESPN would air the Million Dollar Tourny and sponsorships could be picked up along the way. Again I probably should have thought about it some more just sick of where pool is at and all the Bonus Ball stuff.

FYI Bob I live with a pro so I absolutely know all about the expenses involved
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ESPN aint paying anyone for anything in pool, EPSN sucks and has harmed lots of pro sports in america.
 
Fatboy said:
ESPN aint paying anyone for anything in pool, EPSN sucks and has harmed lots of pro sports in america.
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ESPN certainly does suck, unless you love watching a lot of Sports Center reruns or like watching them cater to Lebron, Kobe, etc. SLURP! SLURP! SLURP!

Last I heard, but it's been a while since I checked, ESPN Star was showing quite a bit of pool. But that was only in Asia where pool is bigger than here in the states. It's all about the ratings unfortunately. Same way with stock holders. Screw the people who work for the company, it's all about the stock price or you may be out of a job.

Off topic a little, but the principal is about the same.
 
nicksaint26 said:
So here is my million dollar idea for pool:

If 100 of the top players in the world came up with a 10k a man that would be a Million Dollars in payouts. That 10k would be spread over 10 tournaments so essential 1k per tournament. You could have 1 tourny a month for 10 months and reward a certain amount of points based on where you finish. At the end of the 10 events the 64 players with the most points would be entered into the Million Dollar Tournament (number of players is open for discussion for final tourny). Payouts would need to be determined as well as possibly paying a certain amount out for each of the qualifiers. Please remember this is a rought draft but it would be kind of like how poker does the WSOP events.

This could be done in addition to the other prestegious events i.e US Open, DCC and Ultimate 10Ball as I would not want to see any of the current promoters affected because I think they work really hard and do a great job. I think poker has the right idea and pool needs to follow the model they have currently in place.

Nick St. Jean
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I am sure someone else already said this but it would essentially be the top 20 carving up the bottom 80's $800,000.

Which is pretty much how it goes now if you look at the total purses for the top ten tournaments and look at the top 20 money earners.
 
Truman you are a monster. Thanks for the a$$ whipping demo you put on me a few weeks ago at Danny K's. :)

Yes, WE know and appreciate a good shot when we see it, yet the public has no clue. The commentators on ESPN make no attempt to describe the squervy path of the cueball. POV streamer Daniel gets into it a bit, I think he's the only one.

Non-squervy shots can be fun, too: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cxq55zUhaPU&t=9m25s

I watch that stun shot over and over, but then I am easily amused. Earl does something similar in the Hong Kong Challenge Match and no one clapped. He turned one hand palm up as if to say "what does it take?"

Another thing. POV is not really POV. If the players were wearing GoPro's we could see what they see and the commentators could walk the public through the thought process. They so often get it wrong as it is now.
 
not to mention that 80% of the top 100 players probably dont have 10K just sitting around.

I believe the BCA, APA, NAPA, TAP and all other leagues should be funding a pro league together just think if every league player in america donated 1 dollar a yr we would be better off than pool has ever been and its more realistic.

But trying to get those organizations to work together would take a act of congress
 
Rabbit said:
not to mention that 80% of the top 100 players probably dont have 10K just sitting around.

I believe the BCA, APA, NAPA, TAP and all other leagues should be funding a pro league together just think if every league player in america donated 1 dollar a yr we would be better off than pool has ever been and its more realistic.

But trying to get those organizations to work together would take a act of congress
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You know you dog me so much through the forums I would have thought you would know that I was the first one to put this idea out there and it's been discussed many times.
 
Who was it that decided poker should be on TV? Someone, or some group made that happen.

Same with bowling, reality shows, and super hot news anchor woman.

Whoever is responsible for making these obscure ideas a reality:

HEEEEEELP!
 
I do think the OP is trying so kudos for that.

We had a little discussion in the pool hall last night about who the best player playing 9-ball or 10 ball is right now.

IMO there are less than 10 , and probably less than 5.

So the remaining 95 out of the 100 would be fighting for scraps, every tournament.

Tough action.

By having regional events it keeps costs down and spreads the money around.

JMO

Ken
 
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