Miscue with Taom v10 chalk
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From my experience, the V10 needs more attention when applying it to the tip. Especially on the sides of the tip. I need to scuff the tip more often with the Blue V10.
I also have the Pagulayan chalk in green, made by Taom but in my opinion it has a different formula to it, it’s a bit softer and applies easier and grabs the sides of the tip better.
Maybe it’s Blue vs. Green, I could order a green V10 and a blue Pagulayan and test but why bother?
The green Pagulayan works great for me and I prefer the cube shape so it’s a win win for me.
I also have the Pagulayan chalk in green, made by Taom but in my opinion it has a different formula to it, it’s a bit softer and applies easier and grabs the sides of the tip better.
Maybe it’s Blue vs. Green, I could order a green V10 and a blue Pagulayan and test but why bother?
The green Pagulayan works great for me and I prefer the cube shape so it’s a win win for me.
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I started to pitch this chalk on this Forum months back. It is better than V10, if not for its shape alone.
KingSamurai
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For those that claim chalk makes no difference on miscue: would it not be possible that people adjust their miscue limit/offset based on their chalk?
Perhaps start cueing a little bit closer to center after an adjustment period?
Perhaps start cueing a little bit closer to center after an adjustment period?
Pros and better players use more center ball than you think.
You miscue because you come out of the shot. Lift up a little and the body follows.
It's the tip.
It's the chalk.
It's always you.
It's you when you play great and it's you when you play poorly.
Oh wait. It's the shaft, no it's the wrap on the butt of your cue.
It's always you. Get better.
I have said many times that Taom chalk can have miscue problems with some layered tips that expose a lot of glue layer when shaped. Taom does not stick to hard surface that why it works. Especially Pyro have problem with many layered tips. That is why they kept improving chalk after Pyro and finally made V10. V10 is a lot better and dealt that problem mostly but with some tips it can be little problem still.
Observe your tip and if layer of glue exposed is on critical part of your tip try little bit off from tip so exposed glue layer move place where it wont matter...
Observe your tip and if layer of glue exposed is on critical part of your tip try little bit off from tip so exposed glue layer move place where it wont matter...
billiards_watch
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One miscue today.
200 balls pocketed in an hour 1.5
Warm in the pool hall so it gave me the cake layers. Also an old piece of v10 that was given to me.
200 balls pocketed in an hour 1.5
Warm in the pool hall so it gave me the cake layers. Also an old piece of v10 that was given to me.
A key piece of missing information is how many times in the 200 balls did you chalk your cue’s tip?
Next would be what do you believe was the reason for your miscue? Then before you miscued, how
many shots did you take without chalking including the miscue’s stroke attempt? Were you stroking
the cue ball with English, what type and how many tips of aEnglish were you applying? There are a
variety of reasons why you may miscue. Even one in 200 attempts is too many? You are not supposed
to miscue. I attribute it to carelessness more than anything else, at least for me. There’s no reason to do it.
If you have an awkward bridge or very difficult shot, respect its difficulty, be careful & try to avoid any English.
billiards_watch
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I forget. I wasn't really testing the chalk because I would be thinking about it too much.
I was in the mood to play since there were a lot of tournaments being streamed this weekend and I was motivated to play.
Looking back at how the miscue occurred, would you venture a guess whether it was associated with not having sufficient chalk residue on your tip, was your bridge position comfortable, just a momentary take your eyes off the OB or CB or maybe just a brain fart that pops up every now and then. Sort of I don’t know what I was thinking when I tried that shot? I usually don’t associate or attribute my own miscues, or pretty much anyone else’s, to chalking vs. just being careless or clumsy.
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Yikes!!!!
So you are saying an expensive cue will make me a better player?? There was one place where I shot league and I often used one particular house cue because I liked the hit so much, I'm sure it was clo9se to $1,000 cheaper than my cue.
The only difference between a good house cue and a custom $5k cue besides the tip is one is prettier than the other, one does not make you shoot better though, if they did the pro's would all have $10k cues or whatever that cut off point is between a better shooting cue and a not so good shooting cue.
billiards_watch
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Equipment does make you shoot better that is a pretty much known fact. Again, or we would be shooting with something off the wall.
Just like economics, there is a law of diminishing return though, the higher the cost doesn't equate to better shooting though.
Chalk wouldn't make much a difference but it does.
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cueball2010
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There are so many variables in pool that it is hard to be right or wrong.... Personal circumstances, different experience levels, self contradictions based a perceived scenarios.
So many variables in the game of pool... we use constants and variables to solve problems. I had always thought that the most constant thing in pool was not the player but the equipment they own.
So many variables in the game of pool... we use constants and variables to solve problems. I had always thought that the most constant thing in pool was not the player but the equipment they own.
I figured out that the time I am most likely to miscue is on a slow speed draw shot, I think I decrease my cue speed at contact and it causes me to lift the rear of my cue, once I figured out when it was happening most I was able to eliminate my miscues. Same with flying the cue ball off of the table. Most likely time for it to happen was on a cut break, I was lifting the rear of my cue, QB was in the air when it hit the rack causing the cue ball to fly off table.
billiards_watch
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I aim super low on draw shots so my margin of error is bigger. The chalk could be the deciding factor of whether I 'line drive' the cue ball at my opponent or not.
Well I see people in our Pool Room who MisCue, their Tip are smoother then babies behind. Little 220 or 300 Grit Sandpaper fines problems most of time.
Also over Chalking is also a problem.
Last at some point you're using TOO MUCH English, and Tip just slides off BALL. Cue ball that is.
Also over Chalking is also a problem.
Last at some point you're using TOO MUCH English, and Tip just slides off BALL. Cue ball that is.
I can't quantify if I get less miss-cues with V10.
I can definitely show you how much cleaner a table ends up being, comparing to my table vs a pool room table.
I feel guilty and lazy for not cleaning my table for 2 weeks. I guarantee you that after I vacuum, my damp cloth use after, will show nearly nothing.
Do I need to wipe after vacuuming?
I would surmise that if you aim very low on draw shots your margin of error will be even smaller, not bigger, if you raise the rear of the cue the slightest it will cause a miscue. Aiming higher would give you a bigger margin of error. At any rate you can aim wherever you would like, a lot of people "ground" their tip while aiming, its what you do on the final stroke that matters. If you "line drive" the cue ball it means that the tip was too low and the back of the cue is too high, that's not a chalk problem, that a stroke problem. A 90-100 skill level shooter should know this.