I'm the same way, right-handed and right eye dominant and I aim with my left eye over the cue. I struggle with long shots.
Mizerak + Mosconi: Dominant left eye directly over shotline
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I'm the same way, right-handed and right eye dominant and I aim with my left eye over the cue. I struggle with long shots.
Arnaldo:
In that trifecta of photos, you're right -- Willie does look to be standing square to the shot.
However, in videos of Willie playing (e.g. especially with overhead camera shots, like these):
https://youtube.com/watch?v=wvXkhdINjS4
https://youtube.com/watch?v=qRKw56oAA-E
...you'll see that Willie's diminutive stance (in terms of his feet being close together and parallel to each other) are indeed 45 degrees to the shot line.
I'm thinking he was "posing" for the pictures to give the best view for the camera, but in reality, Willie's entire body is turned 45 degrees to the shot line. Also notice how Willie turns his face to the right, to favor his left eye over the shot line.
And although Dale ("pdcue") and Lou ("lfigueroa") vehemently deny and make fun of this observation, Willie's subtle slip stroke is obvious on many shots.
Very interesting observations, though!
-Sean
Dominance and Parallax
Your eyes are approx. 2.25" apart from center of pupil to center of pupil.
Research has shown that the only time both eyes are seeing exactly the same thing is when the object being looked at is approx. 30 feet away from you. In other words you can close one eye and then the other and the object will not move right or left.
Just for fun, do the ole finger and dominant eye exercise. My strongest eye is my right eye. If I hold my finger up to cover a distant object with my right eye (closing the left eye), about 9 or 10 feet away and then close my right eye and open my left eye my finger jumps to the right. Same thing using a different eye. This is called retinal disparity (thanks Gene) or parallax.
What I do, from the standing position, to get rid of the parallax is to position my body using my left eye to get on the shot line (this gets rid of the parallax issue for me). When I do this, and this will very depending on your own vision, it doesn't matter which eye I open or close the QB and OB are straight in. My left eye tells my chin that I am on the shot line and my body, feet and cue sets themselves on that line.
Do some research on retinal disparity you'll see what I'm talking about.
Have fun out there. :smile:
John
Your eyes are approx. 2.25" apart from center of pupil to center of pupil.
Research has shown that the only time both eyes are seeing exactly the same thing is when the object being looked at is approx. 30 feet away from you. In other words you can close one eye and then the other and the object will not move right or left.
Just for fun, do the ole finger and dominant eye exercise. My strongest eye is my right eye. If I hold my finger up to cover a distant object with my right eye (closing the left eye), about 9 or 10 feet away and then close my right eye and open my left eye my finger jumps to the right. Same thing using a different eye. This is called retinal disparity (thanks Gene) or parallax.
What I do, from the standing position, to get rid of the parallax is to position my body using my left eye to get on the shot line (this gets rid of the parallax issue for me). When I do this, and this will very depending on your own vision, it doesn't matter which eye I open or close the QB and OB are straight in. My left eye tells my chin that I am on the shot line and my body, feet and cue sets themselves on that line.
Do some research on retinal disparity you'll see what I'm talking about.
Have fun out there. :smile:
John
nice catch on the semantics guys..... I know most of us knew what he meant but I guess not everyone so a correction is in order....
Parallax = The crossing of the the eyes so that the fovea of each eye is on the target....
Fovea = In the eye, a tiny pit located in the macula of the retina that provides the clearest vision of all. Only in the fovea are the layers of the retina spread aside to let light fall directly on the cones, the cells that give the sharpest image. Also called the central fovea or fovea centralis.
Macula = The macula or macula lutea (from Latin macula, "spot" + lutea, "yellow") is an oval-shaped highly pigmented yellow spot near the center of the retina of the human eye. It has a diameter of around 6 mm[1] and is often histologically defined as having two or more layers of ganglion cells. Near its center is the fovea, a small pit that contains the largest concentration of cone cells in the eye and is responsible for central, high resolution vision.
The Fovea is about 3 degrees of your field of vision for each eye... Having the eyes misaligned or unable to perform parallax because of muscular issues means that only one fovea can be focused properly... THIS is why you need to understand dominance...
Even with perfect alignment and parallax how do you think the parallax is going to hold up over an 8 hour session... You already know how your eyes would feel reading a book for that long... You start to go cross eyed and get headaches.... Having the dominant fovea in a strong position will at least mean the dominant eye won't be strained as quickly.. You may lose some depth but you won't lose the ability to see the shot.....
Parallax = The crossing of the the eyes so that the fovea of each eye is on the target....
Fovea = In the eye, a tiny pit located in the macula of the retina that provides the clearest vision of all. Only in the fovea are the layers of the retina spread aside to let light fall directly on the cones, the cells that give the sharpest image. Also called the central fovea or fovea centralis.
Macula = The macula or macula lutea (from Latin macula, "spot" + lutea, "yellow") is an oval-shaped highly pigmented yellow spot near the center of the retina of the human eye. It has a diameter of around 6 mm[1] and is often histologically defined as having two or more layers of ganglion cells. Near its center is the fovea, a small pit that contains the largest concentration of cone cells in the eye and is responsible for central, high resolution vision.
The Fovea is about 3 degrees of your field of vision for each eye... Having the eyes misaligned or unable to perform parallax because of muscular issues means that only one fovea can be focused properly... THIS is why you need to understand dominance...
Even with perfect alignment and parallax how do you think the parallax is going to hold up over an 8 hour session... You already know how your eyes would feel reading a book for that long... You start to go cross eyed and get headaches.... Having the dominant fovea in a strong position will at least mean the dominant eye won't be strained as quickly.. You may lose some depth but you won't lose the ability to see the shot.....
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Lou,
If your above observations and conclusion are as sound as they routinely are -- are you (or we) not prompted to wonder what such radical eye-positioning variability says about his pre-shot-routine (PSR) consistency and why such inconsistency (intentional or otherwise) occurred over periods of time in his career or maybe even within certain long matches or exhibitions?
Is it fatigue, mounting eye strain, vision changes (quite likely) over the years? Or are there interesting genius subtleties at work, a kind of situational-PSR or shot approach, similar to the way genius pianists vary their technique performing one type of concert piece as opposed to another, or more commonly, to enact subtleties only they can perceive *within* a given musical piece?
PSR consistency, as you'll already know, has been a long-taught core element for repeatable & excellent pool playing, so this observed variability in the case of a genuine Straight Pool genius is extremely interesting, not that most of us should ideally want or need to incorporate it, or could successfully tolerate it within our own playing habits.
Arnaldo
Well, Arnaldo, first let me say one thing: I have always been a huge proponent of a solid, very minutely detailed PSR. My own approach to the game is based in a very studied PSR, down to a level most guys (including myself) would call insane. But, for the amount of time I devote to the game, my experimentation in this regard has served me well (enough). I may write a book someday and share what I've learned
But, what I have also learned is that a consistent PSR is not so important for some guys. Case in point: a few years ago I took a 14.1 lesson from the great Ray Martin and at one point or another I asked him about his PSR and he said, "Don't have one." He just got down and shot and I think for some players, perhaps the savants, it just doesn't matter. I believe that was the case for Willie. He plopped down and shot. The eye placement didn't matter for him.
Lou Figueroa
Lou,
Nick Varner, with his usual ultra-calm demeanor, when asked about his PSR and shot-by-shot strategizing about the pattern & the english about to be applied in 14.1, said nonchalantly: "I never think too hard about things at the table; I just put my bridge hand down on the cloth -- my hand and shooting arm know what to do and just I let them do it."
Perhaps he was being a wee bit disingenuous or cavalier, considering he had just spent a good many private sessions with a then-top coach of pro players, Hal Mix, who was helping Nick to revamp and elevate his game (beyond his already superior playing).
Arnaldo
Nick Varner, with his usual ultra-calm demeanor, when asked about his PSR and shot-by-shot strategizing about the pattern & the english about to be applied in 14.1, said nonchalantly: "I never think too hard about things at the table; I just put my bridge hand down on the cloth -- my hand and shooting arm know what to do and just I let them do it."
Perhaps he was being a wee bit disingenuous or cavalier, considering he had just spent a good many private sessions with a then-top coach of pro players, Hal Mix, who was helping Nick to revamp and elevate his game (beyond his already superior playing).
Arnaldo
Yeah, I think Nick might have been a bit ingenious on that one. I do think that some guys, maybe the majority of them, are very studied in their approach. Corey Duel and Allen Hopkins come immediately to mind.
Lou Figueroa
Eyes in the correct position is the whole thing...
I will personally like to give you free my Perfect Aim phone lesson while you are at a table to show you how correct you actually are. And this will bump your game up some also. 715-563-8712 afternoon central time or night. My name is Gene...........and like yourself, I do know what I am talking about but have taken it to another level teaching players how to get the dominant eye in the most dominant position.
And if you have the eyes in the correct position in the preshot the alignment will happen very naturally to a certain extent.
That's why we need instructors out there.
it's hard to see what you are doing or not doing yourself. But the teachers need to understand how this works to even begin to teach it.
Some people are 7' tall, some are real heavy and women are built different giving some challenges to get things aligned. Some people broke their back or knees and have other challenges like this.
But by getting the eyes in the correct position in the preshot and coming down correctly each person can get their body in the correct position for them. Their dominant eye will help them get the body comfortable for body type. Get them in a position that won't put them in the hospital if they do it over and over.
It doesn't work to say the alignment is more important or the eyes are more important. You need to have them both right to make the magic work for each player.
Once I work with a player and show them the whole package it is pretty evident what needs to be done to envision the shot correctly and have the alignment right. The dominant eye needs to be a part of this or it's like trying to shoot a gun from the hip. We can get pretty good at it and some will get real good. But show someone where the sight is and the results can be ridiculously good for everyone.
Anyone teaching needs to seek out the info about the dominant eye and understand it or they can't give their students the absolute best information out there.
But just like many players don't think they need to do this or that and stay at the same level for years, This is how we did it in 1902 and it worked then, come on......get real.
if the technology is there use it. If the info is there use it. It's not complicated.
Just because I teach players how to get the most from their ability by showing them how to position their dominant eye doesn't mean that that is all I teach. The alignment and every other aspect of the game is so important. The dominant eye is just a real vital part of this whole puzzle.
For instance: The blind man walks up to an elephant but unfortunately he is at the elephants butt. Takes a smell and says all elephants must smell like shit.
I teacher can get caught up in the know it all attitude also.
As teachers we need to look at other aspects, especially the ones that are obviously helping 1000's of players improve the game they love.
Many players at higher levels can usually see if what a teacher is teaching is good or borderline questionable. I enjoy teaching the dominant eye to any higher level player anywhere. I know that their results will be ridiculously good and a whole knew world will open up to them that they never knew existed before. And they can actually see that it is just the way it is.
Right now I'm waiting to get a little growth removed from my thyroid July 7th and then have surgery on my spine and neck to correct a little trouble and I will once again be back on the road teaching one of the most vital parts of the game that all players must know to get to the height of their ability.
I have dedicated the later years of my life helping players everywhere improve their game with some very vital info that I first figured out as a player and for the last 5 years have been sharing it with many.
My plan when I go back on the road is to work with some teachers around the country and teach them the importance and how to effectively show how this dominant eye works. That way there will be like a hot spot here or there around the USA to learn what I teach.
I have taught some teachers around the USA how this works but they still don't teach it because they don't quite understand how to make it work for everyone. They kind of get stumped.
My goal is to have it mapped out so they will have all the answers to this amazing technique. Every player has the ability to do this but just need to be pushed in the right direction.
I'm just trying to help players play the best pool they can as are so many other teachers that are out there.
I just need to get this info into more teachers and players hands.
And this goes for every teacher in the world. I will show you how well this works and make the same deal I do with skeptical players.
I will put a $100 bill in your pocket and start the lesson. If you can't see how valuable this is in the first 15 minutes of the lesson we can quit and you can keep the $100. If you don't think this is a vital part of the game you can keep the $100.
In the last 2 years nobody has kept the $100.
And the results from even some of the best players in the country is WOW......
You are so right and it is the same for everyone. they have not seen the info or had the coaching to know the difference. It all has to do with the dominant eye.
I will personally like to give you free my Perfect Aim phone lesson while you are at a table to show you how correct you actually are. And this will bump your game up some also. 715-563-8712 afternoon central time or night. My name is Gene...........and like yourself, I do know what I am talking about but have taken it to another level teaching players how to get the dominant eye in the most dominant position.
And if you have the eyes in the correct position in the preshot the alignment will happen very naturally to a certain extent.
That's why we need instructors out there.
it's hard to see what you are doing or not doing yourself. But the teachers need to understand how this works to even begin to teach it.
Some people are 7' tall, some are real heavy and women are built different giving some challenges to get things aligned. Some people broke their back or knees and have other challenges like this.
But by getting the eyes in the correct position in the preshot and coming down correctly each person can get their body in the correct position for them. Their dominant eye will help them get the body comfortable for body type. Get them in a position that won't put them in the hospital if they do it over and over.
It doesn't work to say the alignment is more important or the eyes are more important. You need to have them both right to make the magic work for each player.
Once I work with a player and show them the whole package it is pretty evident what needs to be done to envision the shot correctly and have the alignment right. The dominant eye needs to be a part of this or it's like trying to shoot a gun from the hip. We can get pretty good at it and some will get real good. But show someone where the sight is and the results can be ridiculously good for everyone.
Anyone teaching needs to seek out the info about the dominant eye and understand it or they can't give their students the absolute best information out there.
But just like many players don't think they need to do this or that and stay at the same level for years, This is how we did it in 1902 and it worked then, come on......get real.
if the technology is there use it. If the info is there use it. It's not complicated.
Just because I teach players how to get the most from their ability by showing them how to position their dominant eye doesn't mean that that is all I teach. The alignment and every other aspect of the game is so important. The dominant eye is just a real vital part of this whole puzzle.
For instance: The blind man walks up to an elephant but unfortunately he is at the elephants butt. Takes a smell and says all elephants must smell like shit.
I teacher can get caught up in the know it all attitude also.
As teachers we need to look at other aspects, especially the ones that are obviously helping 1000's of players improve the game they love.
Many players at higher levels can usually see if what a teacher is teaching is good or borderline questionable. I enjoy teaching the dominant eye to any higher level player anywhere. I know that their results will be ridiculously good and a whole knew world will open up to them that they never knew existed before. And they can actually see that it is just the way it is.
Right now I'm waiting to get a little growth removed from my thyroid July 7th and then have surgery on my spine and neck to correct a little trouble and I will once again be back on the road teaching one of the most vital parts of the game that all players must know to get to the height of their ability.
I have dedicated the later years of my life helping players everywhere improve their game with some very vital info that I first figured out as a player and for the last 5 years have been sharing it with many.
My plan when I go back on the road is to work with some teachers around the country and teach them the importance and how to effectively show how this dominant eye works. That way there will be like a hot spot here or there around the USA to learn what I teach.
I have taught some teachers around the USA how this works but they still don't teach it because they don't quite understand how to make it work for everyone. They kind of get stumped.
My goal is to have it mapped out so they will have all the answers to this amazing technique. Every player has the ability to do this but just need to be pushed in the right direction.
I'm just trying to help players play the best pool they can as are so many other teachers that are out there.
I just need to get this info into more teachers and players hands.
And this goes for every teacher in the world. I will show you how well this works and make the same deal I do with skeptical players.
I will put a $100 bill in your pocket and start the lesson. If you can't see how valuable this is in the first 15 minutes of the lesson we can quit and you can keep the $100. If you don't think this is a vital part of the game you can keep the $100.
In the last 2 years nobody has kept the $100.
And the results from even some of the best players in the country is WOW......
"Ocular vision" <chuckle>
I'll bet he has "tactile touch", "auditory hearing", and a sense of "olfactory smell" as well.
"I was once driving my enclosed-seated automobile, when in my ocular vision appeared a mobile live raccoon in my forward-facing headlights. I slammed on my rear-displaying brake lights, and the four-wheeled car came to a stop. Boy, my cardiac heart was pounding inside my ribs-encased chest!"
Sorry, Geno, couldn't resist.
-Sean
I'm still laughing..........
Good One. But as you know there is a big difference..........
Now I have to subscribe to this thread................
"Ocular vision" <chuckle>
I'll bet he has "tactile touch", "auditory hearing", and a sense of "olfactory smell" as well.
"I was once driving my enclosed-seated automobile, when in my ocular vision appeared a mobile live raccoon in my forward-facing headlights. I slammed on my rear-displaying brake lights, and the four-wheeled car came to a stop. Boy, my cardiac heart was pounding inside my ribs-encased chest!"
Sorry, Geno, couldn't resist.
-Sean
Good One. But as you know there is a big difference..........
Now I have to subscribe to this thread................
Your right to A certain extent.........
The biggest problem with being cross eye dominant is the right eye is naturally in the dominant position, if your right handed,in the preshot.
About half way down, after your vision crosses and it will, your brain just tells you to get the left eye over there without any thought from you manually.
The problem is that is you don't play 8 hours a day 7 days a week it has a tough time doing this as good as it needs to be done.
By manually getting this dominant eye in the most dominant position in the preshot the shot will look the same from the top to the bottom.
Your stroke and stance will also fall into place.with much more ease. Because you are not drifting to the right to get the left eye over there on the way down. Your already there.
It takes a little work to get that left eye there in the preshot because we're not used to it. But this will solve allot of your alignment trouble.
It's all included in what I teach called Perfect aim.
Your right though. it can be more difficult but with a little knowledge about what is really going on with these eyes can fix it. Once learned it doesn't matter which eye is dominant. Now you know how to get there.
Good Luck......
The biggest problem with being cross eye dominant is the right eye is naturally in the dominant position, if your right handed,in the preshot.
About half way down, after your vision crosses and it will, your brain just tells you to get the left eye over there without any thought from you manually.
The problem is that is you don't play 8 hours a day 7 days a week it has a tough time doing this as good as it needs to be done.
By manually getting this dominant eye in the most dominant position in the preshot the shot will look the same from the top to the bottom.
Your stroke and stance will also fall into place.with much more ease. Because you are not drifting to the right to get the left eye over there on the way down. Your already there.
It takes a little work to get that left eye there in the preshot because we're not used to it. But this will solve allot of your alignment trouble.
It's all included in what I teach called Perfect aim.
Your right though. it can be more difficult but with a little knowledge about what is really going on with these eyes can fix it. Once learned it doesn't matter which eye is dominant. Now you know how to get there.
Good Luck......
Trying to remember.... but I just do not recall you making me this offer when we talked in St. Louis a few years back.
Lou Figueroa
I didn't have time there Lou...
it was about 3 years ago that I saw you at the Break in St Louis. I've only been doing the $100 thing for about 2 years. But
You took off too soon anyway. I just wanted to play some pool. For nothing or cheap. You looked like you needed to go someplace.
usually when I go to a town to do lessons I work with all the league players. I do mini lessons to show them a little bit about how this works. The ones that can afford it I set up personal lessons. it's what I do for a living. The $200 per lesson is just enough to keep me going on the road.
There are usually a few that can't afford a personal lesson or someones kid that is trying to learn. Once I see these people I spend a little more time with them to help as much as I can. Sometimes I do a whole lesson for free.
I was kind of trying to do a mini lesson for you without having to ask you but we couldn't even get past the dominant eye thing. You were kind of disbelieving about anything I was trying to say.
I usually need to show a player how these eyes work a little before they even understand how much this will help.
You have a nice smooth stroke lou and it would have been fun just hitting some balls with you. You already play at a higher level. this would just enhance your ability that you now have.
I'd really enjoy sharing this with you with a phone lesson Mr lou. You just need to be at a table and I'll run you through it.
there is so much information about what I teach. it's almost like nobody wants anyone to play better. The ones that learn this really don't want to show it to the other players in the area because it will make it harder to beat them.
it is the way lou, that the eyes naturally work. i'm not a crackpot trying to sell videos like so many players and teachers try to portray but you probably figured that out by now.
And actually a player of your caliber would get such a lift from this technique. Any shot that you miss at your level is huge.
I still make the claim that this Perfect Aim that I teach will cut anyones misses in half in a real short period of time. In many players immediately.
I'm just a guy that discovered something that nobody ever figured out before and the only ones that believe it are the ones that I taught in person for sure.
it's not easy to learn this on your own and this is why nobody figured it out.
I don't know how long I'm going to be around and would really enjoy showing you this when your by a pool table. Figure about 30 minutes to an hour.
Just give me a call. i'd like to do it in person but this is the best I can do right now. And all the phone lessons are free and they are very effective at teaching this.
With your pool knowledge already you will see how these eyes work quickly and then you can make it your own.
And I do agree there is allot of junk out there that just doesn't seem to work. This is not one of them.
It's kind of like a marriage. I know this is right and I made a commitment 5 years ago to try and help as many players play better than ever before. I wish I could have done it for free but that didn't put any gas in the tank or keep a roof over my head while on the road.
I just bought a nice motorhome, car dolly and a little car.
Once I get through a couple of little surgeries here in Eau Claire, Wi, I will be back on the road traveling and helping as many players as I possibly can.
Call me tonight or tomorrow afternoon or night. 715-563-8712
Once you understand how this works Lou you will be an adamant supporter of the technique.
it's no magic. just pure science and how the eyes naturally work the best.
Looking forward to your call.
it was about 3 years ago that I saw you at the Break in St Louis. I've only been doing the $100 thing for about 2 years. But
You took off too soon anyway. I just wanted to play some pool. For nothing or cheap. You looked like you needed to go someplace.
usually when I go to a town to do lessons I work with all the league players. I do mini lessons to show them a little bit about how this works. The ones that can afford it I set up personal lessons. it's what I do for a living. The $200 per lesson is just enough to keep me going on the road.
There are usually a few that can't afford a personal lesson or someones kid that is trying to learn. Once I see these people I spend a little more time with them to help as much as I can. Sometimes I do a whole lesson for free.
I was kind of trying to do a mini lesson for you without having to ask you but we couldn't even get past the dominant eye thing. You were kind of disbelieving about anything I was trying to say.
I usually need to show a player how these eyes work a little before they even understand how much this will help.
You have a nice smooth stroke lou and it would have been fun just hitting some balls with you. You already play at a higher level. this would just enhance your ability that you now have.
I'd really enjoy sharing this with you with a phone lesson Mr lou. You just need to be at a table and I'll run you through it.
there is so much information about what I teach. it's almost like nobody wants anyone to play better. The ones that learn this really don't want to show it to the other players in the area because it will make it harder to beat them.
it is the way lou, that the eyes naturally work. i'm not a crackpot trying to sell videos like so many players and teachers try to portray but you probably figured that out by now.
And actually a player of your caliber would get such a lift from this technique. Any shot that you miss at your level is huge.
I still make the claim that this Perfect Aim that I teach will cut anyones misses in half in a real short period of time. In many players immediately.
I'm just a guy that discovered something that nobody ever figured out before and the only ones that believe it are the ones that I taught in person for sure.
it's not easy to learn this on your own and this is why nobody figured it out.
I don't know how long I'm going to be around and would really enjoy showing you this when your by a pool table. Figure about 30 minutes to an hour.
Just give me a call. i'd like to do it in person but this is the best I can do right now. And all the phone lessons are free and they are very effective at teaching this.
With your pool knowledge already you will see how these eyes work quickly and then you can make it your own.
And I do agree there is allot of junk out there that just doesn't seem to work. This is not one of them.
It's kind of like a marriage. I know this is right and I made a commitment 5 years ago to try and help as many players play better than ever before. I wish I could have done it for free but that didn't put any gas in the tank or keep a roof over my head while on the road.
I just bought a nice motorhome, car dolly and a little car.
Once I get through a couple of little surgeries here in Eau Claire, Wi, I will be back on the road traveling and helping as many players as I possibly can.
Call me tonight or tomorrow afternoon or night. 715-563-8712
Once you understand how this works Lou you will be an adamant supporter of the technique.
it's no magic. just pure science and how the eyes naturally work the best.
Looking forward to your call.
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You watched me play and we talked for almost an hour, so I'm not sure why you thought I was in a hurry. Also, you said you didn't play 1pocket and I had told you I had't played 9ball in years, so we had no common ground to play.
We couldn't get past the dominant eye thing because you could not explain to me why I could shoot with the cue under either eye. I demonstrated this. I also asked what your credentials were to be talking about how a person's vision worked: sports medicine, ophthalmology, optometry, anything, and you basically said you had no science based credentials. So I was more than a little dubious about your explanations about the human eye, vision, and aiming.
There were a few other problems but it's not worth getting into that much detail.
Soooo, Geno, if you could not convince me in an hour, in person, I don't believe I will be calling you any time soon.
Lou Figueroa
I only showed you which eye was dominant
And each time that the non dominant eye is in the dominant position all the way a person is looking kind of cross eyed.
When it appears that you are shooting with the other eye you actually are but the dominant eye is still on the edge of being in the dominant position.
It's when the non dominant eye is in the total dominant position it still kind of looks correct but that's when we miss a shot that we can't believe we missed.
If you change your mind just give me a call. Just trying to help.
Good Luck......
And each time that the non dominant eye is in the dominant position all the way a person is looking kind of cross eyed.
When it appears that you are shooting with the other eye you actually are but the dominant eye is still on the edge of being in the dominant position.
It's when the non dominant eye is in the total dominant position it still kind of looks correct but that's when we miss a shot that we can't believe we missed.
If you change your mind just give me a call. Just trying to help.
Good Luck......
Sorry if I missed it, where does Willie say he was right or left eye dominate, thank you.
I looked and couldn't find anything specific about that. (It's "left eye dominant", btw.)
In his first instructional book, he says twice with identical wording: "your head is over the cue in the line of aim," including once in italics.
In his second instructional book, he says, "A good billiard stance puts the player into a balanced and comfortable position, and centers his head over the cue in the line of aim." He also says:
"With the feet in proper position, bend forward at the waist and bring your head in line over the cue in the completed stance. Your feet should be no more than six inches apart."
and:
"Whatever the shot situation, maintain the elements of the basic stance. The keys here are balance, freedom of stroke movement, and position of the head above the cue."
In the pictures in his second book, it appears that the cue is under his left eye when shooting right-handed, but the pictures are posed and therefore suspect. You also need to consider how much input Mosconi may or may not have had into the contents of either book.
Here is his instructional video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BJYfqdkunoc -- "same principle as firing a rifle" but he also implies that collision-induced throw doesn't exist. If you look at the overhead shot around 18:00 (ring-around-the-side drill) it sure looks like the cue is under his left eye.
Few modern players stand as high as Mosconi stood over the shot. The four-contact-point stance would have made him grit his teeth.