Morakami tips question

I like Morakami tips a lot. The ones that I have installed cut well, and performance was superb. I think it is a high quality product. I am very disappointed with Kamui tips though. They are too hard from the start - and get harder from there. I have found that Kamikaze tips are a great substitute for the Kamui. They perform like the Kamui tips that I was getting 3 years ago. Back to Morakami tips. I love them. I don't however, like to install ANY type of tip on Pechauer cues! I don't know what the ferrules are made of but it is a bear to get tips to stay on them....

That's some interesting observations. I have had the feeling that Kamui's in general are harder now than when they first became popular.
What glue do you use when installing tips?
I've installed tips on Pechauer shafts with 401 Loctite and to my knowledge they have stayed on.
 
no warning shots =D
 

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I like Morakami tips a lot. The ones that I have installed cut well, and performance was superb. I think it is a high quality product. I am very disappointed with Kamui tips though. They are too hard from the start - and get harder from there. I have found that Kamikaze tips are a great substitute for the Kamui. They perform like the Kamui tips that I was getting 3 years ago. Back to Morakami tips. I love them. I don't however, like to install ANY type of tip on Pechauer cues! I don't know what the ferrules are made of but it is a bear to get tips to stay on them....

i think morakami are far superior that kamui and cheaper too. never had a problem with them and what baringer says about installing tips is very true... here read for yourself

"Delamination or the layers falling apart is always due to inexperienced installation where the installer builds up excessive heat by sanding and or cutting the tip to shape it. Experience is key as is not building up heat. Take your time and don't sand excessively. All tips need to be cut down and not sanded down.

Lastly, if the tip delaminates, pops off, explodes or balloons it's due to cockpit error. PERIOD. We've installed thousands of tips as have our clients and we sell tens of thousands of tips all without incident. All problems are 99.9999% of the time installation issues. Proper installation by a knowledgeable cue mechanic is always recommended and encouraged. "
 
Excuse me???????????????? Your logic says the more you pay the better it will be. The Cue Repair people live from the reputation of work done and quality of products used. Out of a whole cue the player is probably the most finiky about the tip. Do an AZB Search of Ultraskin and UltraSkins. Than do a Google search on UltraSkin Cue Tip review.

How much do you think Pig Skin cost? Do you feel I have 20 executives that have to make big pay checks from the tips?????????????

I can tell you now it does not cost that much more than a Triangle or LePro to make in Quantity.

Disclaimer: Sorry to post in thread but that info on my tips is untrue to say the least.

Sic em, Tom. Cheap shot on his part.

I have installed Ultra Skins and my customers seem satisfied with their performance.

Yes, you can buy pricier tips but price does not insure quality. Customers have preferences, and that is why we sell so many different types of tips.
 
i think morakami are far superior that kamui and cheaper too. never had a problem with them and what baringer says about installing tips is very true... here read for yourself

"Delamination or the layers falling apart is always due to inexperienced installation where the installer builds up excessive heat by sanding and or cutting the tip to shape it. Experience is key as is not building up heat. Take your time and don't sand excessively. All tips need to be cut down and not sanded down.

Lastly, if the tip delaminates, pops off, explodes or balloons it's due to cockpit error. PERIOD. We've installed thousands of tips as have our clients and we sell tens of thousands of tips all without incident. All problems are 99.9999% of the time installation issues. Proper installation by a knowledgeable cue mechanic is always recommended and encouraged. "

That is so funny!
 
i think morakami are far superior that kamui and cheaper too. never had a problem with them and what baringer says about installing tips is very true... here read for yourself

"Delamination or the layers falling apart is always due to inexperienced installation where the installer builds up excessive heat by sanding and or cutting the tip to shape it. Experience is key as is not building up heat. Take your time and don't sand excessively. All tips need to be cut down and not sanded down.

Lastly, if the tip delaminates, pops off, explodes or balloons it's due to cockpit error. PERIOD. We've installed thousands of tips as have our clients and we sell tens of thousands of tips all without incident. All problems are 99.9999% of the time installation issues. Proper installation by a knowledgeable cue mechanic is always recommended and encouraged. "

Joe also instructs oh how to properly install joint pins by driving them home with a hammer:thumbup:

Its on the DVD he sells

BTW, if you really want to believe that Koolaid, you should be aware that those remarks were a slight towards me because I was able to pull some Mooris apart with my fingers. BTW, how did you get a quote from a deleted thread?
 
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i think morakami are far superior that kamui and cheaper too. never had a problem with them and what baringer says about installing tips is very true... here read for yourself

"Delamination or the layers falling apart is always due to inexperienced installation where the installer builds up excessive heat by sanding and or cutting the tip to shape it. Experience is key as is not building up heat. Take your time and don't sand excessively. All tips need to be cut down and not sanded down.

Lastly, if the tip delaminates, pops off, explodes or balloons it's due to cockpit error. PERIOD. We've installed thousands of tips as have our clients and we sell tens of thousands of tips all without incident. All problems are 99.9999% of the time installation issues. Proper installation by a knowledgeable cue mechanic is always recommended and encouraged. "
Has Joe risen from the banned zone under a new alias? Just wondering.....Too think that the only way for a tip to fall apart is by installer error, is foolish too say the least. A bad tip is a bad tip, period. Joe always says what you have quoted just so he doesn't have to replace bad tips to his customers that complain about his shoddy tips......IMO...
Dave
 
Has Joe risen from the banned zone under a new alias? Just wondering.....Too think that the only way for a tip to fall apart is by installer error, is foolish too say the least. A bad tip is a bad tip, period. Joe always says what you have quoted just so he doesn't have to replace bad tips to his customers that complain about his shoddy tips......IMO...

Dave


Yeah, the "cockpit error" is a common phrase he likes to use. Joes never wrong, just ask him. The mans a tool.
 
I will make this so simple a child can understand what I'm saying, I said I would not stock any tip I would not use myself. Most people would realize that that means I would use what I stock not just one tip. Does this help you ?????????????

Well, first, simple seems to suit you well. Second, so you would use any other brand of soft thru double hard?? That's a WIDE amount of tips, And you actually carry all those??? I don't believe you for a second.!! You're only point in this thread was to trash Ultra Skins and nothing else. Why? No clue, but your statements show a prejudice very well for what ever reason. Your attitude in this thread has been deplorable at best. You made disparaging remarks about one manufacturers tips in this thread, even though it wasn't the OP's question. Your statements were rude and uncalled for. Plain and SIMPLE. Now, yes you are entitled to your opinion....BUT the rules here say that you cannot disparage a product or manufacturer...SIMPLE, YES? I believe you called them, and I quote..." Junk" There are ways to speak well, and get a point across, sorry to be the bearer of sad news, you don't seem to have that skill.
I do agree with others that have chimed in, that have more weight in the game, if you will, that say that they cut, and shape pretty much the same as a kamui...if you disagree, then maybe you haven't been doing much work with Kamui's lately, nor dealing with customers that are telling you that they harden very quickly, and for the money, they need replacing quicker due to non-performance than the other tip you are trashing. I just did 3 kamui clears and 4 Ultraskins this week and they all cut and shaped the same, except the Kamui customers asked for them to be cut down almost a 3rd then shaped, and have already reserved replacements for these in about 2-3 months as they said they get too hard too quickly. For the $$, that's ridiculous, IMO.
Haven't had my Ultra Skin customers ask this yet....
Glad I and my customers don't have to rely on a 'repair person' with your attitude..... I kinda feel sorry for your customers...seriously, I do.
Dave
 
Ultra skins sell for what $2.50 To $3.00. How good of a tip do you think it is for $2.50 the reason repair guys love them and talk them up so much is because they simply make more off them. There are far better tips out there for a reasonable price . But a quality not junk you will be more happy in the end. I have tried them more then once and would not stock them even if I got them for free and my profit was 100%

Did you get a lot of complaints, or just your personal experiences?
 
Both

Both, I tried them myself and did not like them from the start for more then one reason, Then I installed two for others and The first person did not like them and I asked them to wait a while and let them break in a little then tell me what they though. There idea never changed, the second person was a le pro user for years and I think that's why they did not like them, It was the first layered tip they ever had. You know not everyone is going to love every tip on the planet period, For me it's the ultra skins, It's not a big deal to me it's just a dam tip, It blows my mind that some guys will put so much efforts into following this post and going out of there way to say something, If you like them great Good luck to you, if you don't like them good luck to you as well it's just a dam tip. Get over it and move on. I hope to god that my life never gets to the point that I have nothing better to do then make following a post such a big deal. AGAIN it's just a dam tip get over it, I have been doing cue repairs for over 35 years and the ultra skin is not the first tip I did not like and I'm sure it won't be the last, I'm very sure Tom Hayes is a great guy and I have nothing against him at all I just not a fan of the tip and I have every right to be or not to be, if he was not a member here on Az This thread would have been over a long time ago, Some people really need to get a life, Not to mention I think the people making such a big deal out of this are really doing nothing more then a little ass kissing that's all. This is the end of this post for me, You guys an carry on with this I have better things to do with my life and my time. Yes this includes you DAVE38, Get a dam life man please.
 
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Both, I tried them myself and did not like them from the start for more then one reason, Then I installed two for others and The first person did not like them and I asked them to wait a while and let them break in a little then tell me what they though. There idea never changed, the second person was a le pro user for years and I think that's why they did not like them, It was the first layered tip they ever had. You know not everyone is going to love every tip on the planet period, For me it's the ultra skins, It's not a big deal to me it's just a dam tip, It blows my mind that some guys will put so much efforts into following this post and going out of there way to say something, If you like them great Good luck to you, if you don't like them good luck to you as well it's just a dam tip. Get over it and move on. I hope to god that my life never gets to the point that I have nothing better to do then make following a post such a big deal. AGAIN it's just a dam tip get over it, I have been doing cue repairs for over 35 years and the ultra skin is not the first tip I did not like and I'm sure it won't be the last, I'm very sure Tom Hayes is a great guy and I have nothing against him at all I just not a fan of the tip and I have every right to be or not to be, if he was not a member here on Az This thread would have been over a long time ago, Some people really need to get a life, Not to mention I think the people making such a big deal out of this are really doing nothing more then a little ass kissing that's all. This is the end of this post for me, You guys an carry on with this I have better things to do with my life and my time. Yes this includes you DAVE38, Get a dam life man please.
So if all the above is true, why the stormtrooper approach in your first 2 posts? Great job of trying to walk-back your attacks from the first 2 posts. You acted like you caught Tom doing all the hens in your hen house, for lack of a better analogy. If all it is, is that you didn't care for them, then please adjust your first couple of posts to reflect that. If you do, I will delete mine.
People that read here are a bit smarter than you give credit for....you disparaged a member's product and therefore himself also. You called it junk, and not worth the price he charges, then try to say, you just were saying you didn't like them, far cry from you other posts....don't blame the people that called you on it, blame yourself.
Funny how you now try to play the victim of people with too much time on their hands, Which sometimes I do, but I also do have a life, and if I had to choose, I like mine more than I like you'rs. BTW, ass kissing is NOT in my box of tools, unless you are my woman of 18 years, which no one here is..just so you know...
You have to realize, you broke a couple rules and got called on it, plain and simple. If you don't recall what you said, here they are, complete with all your spelling errors...lol: as I said, if you change to reflect your new view, I will delete mine.
Enjoy, and I'm out, no need to beat a dead horse and most here now know how you 'see' things.
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Ultra skins sell for what $2.50 To $3.00. How good of a tip do you think it is for $2.50 the reason repair guys love them and talk them up so much is because they simply make more off them. There are far better tips out there for a reasonable price . But a quality not junk you will be more happy in the end. I have tried them more then once and would not stock them even if I got them for free and my profit was 100%
#2)
If the ultraskins where all that , Why don't they sell for more, Don't tell me your selling them for $2.50 - $3.00 because your just a nice guy, If you could sell them for lets say $10-$15, You know you would and if you would not then that's just a stupid business move, The fact of the matter is they are cheep tips period, Plane and simple. Like I said I would not stock them even if I got them for free and my profits where 100% on them, I think I have maybe $2,000 worth of tip inventory and could put anything I want on my cue, An ultraskin would be the very last tip I would ever use and I tell all my customers and who ever asked the same thing. You simply can not compare an ultraskin to a G-2 or a Kamui, or a Zan, sure they are a lot less money but there is a reason why. End of story, I'm not hear to have a pissing contest with anyone, Just saying what I believe to be true, I have installed them and don't like the way they cut and burnish at all, and needless to say I don't like the way they play at all but then again what can you really expect from a $2.00 Tip.
 
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JT, you have zero idea what you speak of. Untill change of format I was the Top Bought Layered Tip and most looked at Layered Tip for years on Seyberts whom does not sell my tip for $2.00. So yes, by this fact it does appear to be sought out and bought more than Kamui. Scroll to bottum and look away.

http://web.archive.org/web/20131222043108/http://www.seyberts.com/?

And JT, the Tip is what hits the cue ball and its my Tip you are speaking of. If I said you did not know how to do cue repair (WHICH I AM NOT) on a public forum I wonder if you would have fight?

Hope you are getting $300.00 for a Tip Install, you have to be the highest prices or your works not good??????



Not due to pricing at all. You make a $2.00l low budget tip plain and simple. If ultra skins where all that then they would be the most popular tip in the world, o no that's Kamui. This is my last comment on this thread, you can carry on if you feel the need to as you do. Get over if Tom it's a dam tip. Surely you have more things in your life that comand more attention then this thread.
 
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I pay $7 for Ultraskin tips at Seyberts. They play way better than the ones that Tom sells for $2-3 on his site.
 
I pay $7 for Ultraskin tips at Seyberts. They play way better than the ones that Tom sells for $2-3 on his site.

How is that even possible? :confused::confused:

EDIT--- > Ok I now see the point...lol
Funny stuff.....
Dave
 
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