Both, I tried them myself and did not like them from the start for more then one reason, Then I installed two for others and The first person did not like them and I asked them to wait a while and let them break in a little then tell me what they though. There idea never changed, the second person was a le pro user for years and I think that's why they did not like them, It was the first layered tip they ever had. You know not everyone is going to love every tip on the planet period, For me it's the ultra skins, It's not a big deal to me it's just a dam tip, It blows my mind that some guys will put so much efforts into following this post and going out of there way to say something, If you like them great Good luck to you, if you don't like them good luck to you as well it's just a dam tip. Get over it and move on. I hope to god that my life never gets to the point that I have nothing better to do then make following a post such a big deal. AGAIN it's just a dam tip get over it, I have been doing cue repairs for over 35 years and the ultra skin is not the first tip I did not like and I'm sure it won't be the last, I'm very sure Tom Hayes is a great guy and I have nothing against him at all I just not a fan of the tip and I have every right to be or not to be, if he was not a member here on Az This thread would have been over a long time ago, Some people really need to get a life, Not to mention I think the people making such a big deal out of this are really doing nothing more then a little ass kissing that's all. This is the end of this post for me, You guys an carry on with this I have better things to do with my life and my time. Yes this includes you DAVE38, Get a dam life man please.
So if all the above is true, why the stormtrooper approach in your first 2 posts? Great job of trying to walk-back your attacks from the first 2 posts. You acted like you caught Tom doing all the hens in your hen house, for lack of a better analogy.
If all it is, is that you didn't care for them, then please adjust your first couple of posts to reflect that. If you do, I will delete mine.
People that read here are a bit smarter than you give credit for....you disparaged a member's product and therefore himself also. You called it junk, and not worth the price he charges, then try to say, you just were saying you didn't like them, far cry from you other posts....don't blame the people that called you on it, blame yourself.
Funny how you now try to play the victim of people with too much time on their hands, Which sometimes I do, but I also do have a life, and if I had to choose, I like mine more than I like you'rs. BTW, ass kissing is NOT in my box of tools, unless you are my woman of 18 years, which no one here is..just so you know...
You have to realize, you broke a couple rules and got called on it, plain and simple. If you don't recall what you said, here they are, complete with all your spelling errors...lol: as I said, if you change to reflect your new view, I will delete mine.
Enjoy, and I'm out, no need to beat a dead horse and most here now know how you 'see' things.
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Ultra skins sell for what $2.50 To $3.00. How good of a tip do you think it is for $2.50 the reason repair guys love them and talk them up so much is because they simply make more off them. There are far better tips out there for a reasonable price . But a quality not
junk you will be more happy in the end. I have tried them more then once and would not stock them even if I got them for free and my profit was 100%
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If the ultraskins where all that , Why don't they sell for more, Don't tell me your selling them for $2.50 - $3.00 because your just a nice guy, If you could sell them for lets say $10-$15, You know you would and if you would not then that's just a stupid business move, The fact of the matter is they are cheep tips period, Plane and simple. Like I said I would not stock them even if I got them for free and my profits where 100% on them, I think I have maybe $2,000 worth of tip inventory and could put anything I want on my cue, An ultraskin would be the very last tip I would ever use and I tell all my customers and who ever asked the same thing. You simply can not compare an ultraskin to a G-2 or a Kamui, or a Zan, sure they are a lot less money but there is a reason why. End of story, I'm not hear to have a pissing contest with anyone, Just saying what I believe to be true, I have installed them and don't like the way they cut and burnish at all, and needless to say I don't like the way they play at all but then again what can you really expect from a $2.00 Tip.