Mosconi Cup 2025, Dec. 3-6, Alexandra Palace, London

[ChrisinNC]

i would crumble as a cookie just walking to the table there. many of the WNT tour matches throughout the year looks like "yea i could do that" lol, but this is obviously an insane, insane situation to be in. pool is in itself already a mentally challenging game. now combine it with the couldron arena, the rowdy crowd, the weight of the team on your shoulders, the weight of the national fans on your shoulders, the social media, and that EVERY shot choice or execution in these short races is scrutinized.

tyler was probably the best team USA player last year, and he's had other good year(s) too. this year he is truly having a nightmare

It doesn’t get any worse than what Tyler has been through on the biggest stage our sport offers, letting his teammates and his country’s pool fans down with those numerous match deciding errors.

We always learn and grow more from our losses than from our victories. If he’s able to face down and own his failures here, Tyler will become a better and stronger player as a result of this. I hope he’s given that opportunity in future Mosconi Cups.

 

[mrshifty]

It doesn’t get any worse than what Tyler has been through on the biggest stage our sport offers, letting his teammates and his country’s pool fans down with those numerous match deciding errors.

We always learn and grow more from our losses than from our victories. If he’s able to face down and own his failures here, Tyler will become a better and stronger player as a result of this. I hope he’s given that opportunity in future Mosconi Cups.

Once you have a couple of misses like that doubt creeps in and it is hard to get past it quickly. It could affect him for a few events, forever, or he could make 1 shot tomorrow that resets him. One just has to wait and see what happens.

 

[j2pac]

Wow, the crowd went a little overboard there, completely sharking him on the 9 the entire time he's down is really unfair. They didn't do that to anyone else. But I get it, even Tyler smiled after because he probably felt he deserved that.

The referee should've stepped in and quiet them down and reset the clock.

I agree completely. Getting into the spirit of the event is one thing...Turning it into a spectacle worthy of turnbuckles and everything else associated with a professional wrestling event, is another.
That was more than "a little overboard," IMO. The Referee should have absolutely stopped the shot clock, and given the crowd a healthy dose of STFU while he (Styer) was down on that 9 ball.

 

[skogstokig]

I agree completely. Getting into the spirit of the event is one thing...Turning it into a spectacle worthy of turnbuckles and everything else associated with a professional wrestling event, is another.
That was more than "a little overboard," IMO. The Referee should have absolutely stopped the shot clock, and given the crowd a healthy dose of STFU while he (Styer) was down on that 9 ball.

to be honest, if the referee did that, stopped the shot clock and told off the crowd, i think tyler may have missed by another inch.

"turnbuckles"?

 

[Monti]

I agree. I think he missed because of the pressure, not the crowd I think stopping him mid shot , telling the crowd to be quiet , then coming back to complete silence would have screwed his head even more

 

[FeltyFran]

We ALL would much prefer the cacophony to the sudden a-hole in our swing. We were pretty brutal on the Euros last year. Tyler has deserved the treatment and he knows it. He shot into the crowd willingly. Not sure why everyone here is having a fit about it.

 

[j2pac]

to be honest, if the referee did that, stopped the shot clock and told off the crowd, i think tyler may have missed by another inch.

"turnbuckles"?

Maybe. That being said, either you want a genuine competition, or an episode of Jerry Springer. I have zero issue with getting the fans into the event. Think about it this way...In golf, the fans cheer, hoot and holler at the appropriate time. When the player gets ready to swing, they are quiet. They (fans) roar when the putt leaves the putter, and goes into the hole, not while the player is putting/swinging.
There's a time and a place IMO. In somewhat abstract thought, It's entirely possible the silence would have increased the pressure on Styer to pot that nine-ball.
In my opinion, that particular situation was over the top. To each their own.

 

[Black-Balled]

We ALL would much prefer the cacophony to the sudden a-hole in our swing. We were pretty brutal on the Euros last year. Tyler has deserved the treatment and he knows it. He shot into the crowd willingly. Not sure why everyone here is having a fit about it.

I find the spectacle quite unappealing.

It is a classless and cheap attitude, inconsistent with the environment that certainly looks like a top-notch program.

 

[j2pac]

I agree. I think he missed because of the pressure, not the crowd I think stopping him mid shot , telling the crowd to be quiet , then coming back to complete silence would have screwed his head even more

The players deserve a measure of respect when they are down on the shot IMO.

 

[j2pac]

I find the spectacle quite unappealing.

It is a classless and cheap attitude, inconsistent with the environment that certainly looks like a top-notch program.

 

[j2pac]

to be honest, if the referee did that, stopped the shot clock and told off the crowd, i think tyler may have missed by another inch.

"turnbuckles"?

It's a wrestling thing.

 

[jbart65]

For those who say this is just an "exhibition," I say that's totally false. The MC is a real match with real emotions and a lot on the line. The money involved is just a perk. Both teams want badly to win, that is a certainty.

Here, here, Jay.

For some bizarre reason, there's a handful of people who come on to the Mosconi thread every year to deride the event as a mere exhibit that should not be taken seriously or even enjoyed. Like I said, bizarre.

Reminds me of sports fans who don't like soccer who regularly show up on on soccer chatboards to say that soccer sucks. If you don't like the sport or the event, why are you bothering in the first place? Why can't you just let other people enjoy what they enjoy?

They just can't help themselves. It's as if they have a dominant gene that compels them. Like baby turtles leaving the safety of the forest and running for the beach while predators swoop about. There's no stopping those turtles, no way no how!

Joshua Filler this week called the Mosconi not only his favorite event, but the most important event in pool. Who am I supposed to believe? Some random keyboard crank on a chatboard or the best player in the world?

Hmm. Tough choice, but I think I know the answer.

 

[skogstokig]

is it still the case that sky can send anyone he wants out there in singles? like svb multiple times?

 

[SA96]

is it still the case that sky can send anyone he wants out there in singles? like svb multiple times?

No, Skyler gets to choose the order, but every player has to play 1 game.

So the order will probably be SVB, Gorst, Sky, Thorpe and Styer.

Maybe Gorst ahead of SVB, as Fedor is playing the doubles in game 1, so he will have a nice flow.

 

[xX-Wizard-Xx]

Just a vacation for team usa ....

 

[skogstokig]

No, Skyler gets to choose the order, but every player has to play 1 game.

So the order will probably be SVB, Gorst, Sky, Thorpe and Styer.

Maybe Gorst ahead of SVB, as Fedor is playing the doubles in game 1, so he will have a nice flow.

gotcha. then europe will field filler, shaw first

 

[SA96]

Just a vacation for team usa ....

Disagree.

I was sat near Team USA and could tell how much Gorst, Sky and Styer were hurting with their misses.

One of the problems for Tyler is that he cares too much, needs to relax more!

 

[SA96]

Matchroom have just posted the line-ups.

We have the doubles match from yesterday, and then Thorpe is up first in the singles.

Very surprising.

 

[Roy Steffensen]

Have wanted to go to the Mosconi Cup for 20 years, and finally I had the chance. Only went one day though, but it was awesome, and will definitely go back another time. (But hopefully they will find another venue than Ally Pally, which is far away from everything)

The atmosphere and noice is NOTHING when watching on tv compared to feeling and experiencing it inside the arena.

I was blown away of how loud and tense it was.

Hats off to the players who manage to make balls in that setting. You can see they are very nervous and feeling the pressure on every single shot.

All in all a great experience, but it was definitely poor sportsmanship from the crowd on the 9-ball the seconds before Tyler missed against Moritz.

On all other shots the crowd quieted down, but I think it just got out of control on this 9.
I see people blame the ref, but he actually tried a few times to calm down on that show but with no luck.

I guess it would not have happened with any other players, but when the crowd saw the awkward position on the nine everyone felt that this was another miss coming from Tyler.

It was not an option for the ref to reset clock, stop Tyler and ask the audience to be quiet, and then let him shoot. Had he missed then everyone would definitely have blamed the ref.

Just poor sportsmanship from the crowd - on that particular shot. Otherwise I felt it was all good.

The level of play has been great, and the score could and should have been closer. Three matches ended 5-4 to Europe, after USA missed. So instead of 8-3 Europe it could have been 5-6 USA.

I am all Europe, but I really wish USA will win next year.

The Mosconi Cup is great, but if Europe keeps winning every year people will lose interest

 

[decent dennis]

to be honest, if the referee did that, stopped the shot clock and told off the crowd, i think tyler may have missed by another inch.

"turnbuckles"?

Wrestling