Mosconi Cup - Bad winners are worse thn bad losers.

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Sir, they won the Cup. What were they supposed to say?
"We were awful, we can't pot a ball, you were better and we don't know how he won"??? Of course they are gonna say "we are the best"...

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In your video "proving" that the Europeans were disrespectful you showed captain Chamat saying to the Asian players to watch out. Then you showed Barry Hearn, and one commentator (forgive me but i can't remember his name right now). Those last 2 don't even represent the European team! Like... the commentator is from Canada if i remember correctly!! How does he represent Team Europe??

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Judging from the tone of your voice in your video you are absolutely devastated by this event... Let me give you a tip: Calm down man, don't take everything so seriously. It's just a sporting event, don't give it so much value that this ruins your day. You weren't even playing man, other people did. You didn't loose absolutely nothing (unless you had a bet on team USA).
 
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Sir, they won the Cup. What were they supposed to say?
"We were awful, we can't pot a ball, you were better and we don't know how he won"??? Of course they are gonna say "we are the best"...

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In your video "proving" that the Europeans were disrespectful you showed captain Chamat saying to the Asian players to watch out. Then you showed Barry Hearn, and one commentator (forgive me but i can't remember his name right now). Those last 2 don't even represent the European team! Like... the commentator is from Canada if i remember correctly!! How does he represent Team Europe??

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Judging from the tone of your voice in your video you are absolutely devastated by this event... Let me give you a tip: Calm down man, don't take everything so seriously. It's just a sporting event, don't give it so much value that this ruins your day. You weren't even playing man, other people did. You didn't loose absolutely nothing (unless you had a bet on team USA).

They were saying it didn't happen.
It did happen.

No --- what they did after this event is horrible and completely disrespectful to the American players. It's also very arrogant.

You can celebrate without telling the world that America sucks so you have to go to Asia.

Sorry --- you can kiss European ass all day - it's not going to change how I feel about this.

Yes - I am devestated. I'm an American, 100% in the corner of Americans (pool-players and otherwise). I'm also a sports-fan and I know what sportsmanship is.

I applaud Europe for their talent - but it's simply NOT the time to play "kick the dog."

WE CAN COMPETE... We have proven it over, and over and over, and we'll do it again.
 
Well - I'm really disappointed in Europe's take on the #Mosconi Cup and their post-game celebration.

I don't think it should be part of your celebration to scream about how American pool-players cannot challenge you and how you're going to have to go to the Philippines to find some competition.

You won and you should be happy without telling America that we're disposable and can't compete.

This Event was named after an AMERICAN player - not a European player, and we'll be back!


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z7uQNvoHdYI&feature=youtu.be

Kinda stings a little but lets be honest, its the truth. I'm all about America winning but we just don't look like the big table player's of old. Everything about them is better.
On a bar table, we'd kick the crap out of them.:smile:
 
They were saying it didn't happen.
It did happen.

No --- what they did after this event is horrible and completely disrespectful to the American players. It's also very arrogant.

You can celebrate without telling the world that America sucks so you have to go to Asia.

Sorry --- you can kiss European ass all day - it's not going to change how I feel about this.

Yes - I am devestated. I'm an American, 100% in the corner of Americans (pool-players and otherwise). I'm also a sports-fan and I know what sportsmanship is.

I applaud Europe for their talent - but it's simply NOT the time to play "kick the dog."

WE CAN COMPETE... We have proven it over, and over and over, and we'll do it again.

I went with a more polite answer in my previous post, but dude, chill...

So you will just ignore that those things that were said that hurt you weren't even said by people that represent the european team??

The Canadian commentator does NOT represent the European Team. He is just a commentator. If I play someone and then the commentator says that I wasn't good enough, I'm not gonna blame the guy that beat me and say that he is disrespectful... This doesn't even make sense man...

Barry Hearn does NOT represent the european team. He represents the money that this even brings to him and his company. He will do anything that will bring him more money. These last 2 days, even in my pool room (somewhere in europe) everyone was rooting for the USA team JUST because we wanted to see more pool, and not finish the even a day early. I am sure that this was the case with a lot of the european fans.
He wants to have more people glued to their screens because that generates more money for him and his company.

Let me ask you this. If in your local pool hall you play with a guy and you win him 7 consecutive times, once 11-2, another 11-3, what will you do? Don't you wanna play with someone else to test yourself??

Barry obviously heard that, and he thought "you know what? maybe they want to see another event too, with the european team against an asian team!" It was not said that the Mosconi cup will not continue, or that the USA will not take part in it from now on, they said that they are thinking about a new event.

Paint the letters in your answers whatever color you like and have them as big as you want, but you are crying for something completely ridiculous...
 
These last 2 days, even in my pool room (somewhere in europe) everyone was rooting for the USA team JUST because we wanted to see more pool, and not finish the even a day early. I am sure that this was the case with a lot of the european fans.

I confirm. I'm all for Europe, but me and others at the club we found ourselves rooting for the USA side plenty of times the last 2-3 years. Even the crowd at the Ally Pally were starting to root a bit for USA, in case you didn't notice.
 
I went with a more polite answer in my previous post, but dude, chill...

So you will just ignore that those things that were said that hurt you weren't even said by people that represent the european team??

The Canadian commentator does NOT represent the European Team. He is just a commentator. If I play someone and then the commentator says that I wasn't good enough, I'm not gonna blame the guy that beat me and say that he is disrespectful... This doesn't even make sense man...

Barry Hearn does NOT represent the european team. He represents the money that this even brings to him and his company. He will do anything that will bring him more money. These last 2 days, even in my pool room (somewhere in europe) everyone was rooting for the USA team JUST because we wanted to see more pool, and not finish the even a day early. I am sure that this was the case with a lot of the european fans.
He wants to have more people glued to their screens because that generates more money for him and his company.

Let me ask you this. If in your local pool hall you play with a guy and you win him 7 consecutive times, once 11-2, another 11-3, what will you do? Don't you wanna play with someone else to test yourself??

Barry obviously heard that, and he thought "you know what? maybe they want to see another event too, with the european team against an asian team!" It was not said that the Mosconi cup will not continue, or that the USA will not take part in it from now on, they said that they are thinking about a new event.

Paint the letters in your answers whatever color you like and have them as big as you want, but you are crying for something completely ridiculous...

No - I don't go in front of a GLOBAL audience and tell them that my opponent sucks so I'm going to look for a better one.

I tell them the truth and say that my opponent is better than what he/she displayed here and he/she wouldn't be here if they weren't great.

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We didn't play horrible.... we got some shit-rolls, we were being sharked by 2,000 idiots and weren't born into a supportive country.

All ten of those players knows what it's like to lose and they should remember that while they're telling our players that they suck so they're going to Asia.


Go Big-Orange!
 
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No - I don't go in front of a GLOBAL audience and tell them that my opponent sucks so I'm going to look for a better one.

I tell them the truth and say that my opponent is better than what he/she displayed here and he/she wouldn't be here if they weren't great.

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We didn't play horrible.... we got some shit-rolls, we were being sharked by 2,000 idiots and were weren't born into a supportive country.

All ten of those players knows what it's like to lose and they should remember that while they're telling our players that they suck so they're going to Asia.


Go Big-Orange!

I'm American and I really don't care who wins. I say whomever played the best should win and it happened to be the Europeans.

And everybody keeps saying "we" lost. I don't remember losing anything...I didn't even play.

The same goes for football, baseball, basketball and whatever. If I ain't playing, I didn't lose anything. I'm just a spectator watching a game.

The only time I get concerned about losing at pool is when I'm playing and there is money involved.

It's just a game. Don't get so excited about it.
 
Well - I'm really disappointed in Europe's take on the #Mosconi Cup and their post-game celebration.

I don't think it should be part of your celebration to scream about how American pool-players cannot challenge you and how you're going to have to go to the Philippines to find some competition.

You won and you should be happy without telling America that we're disposable and can't compete.

This Event was named after an AMERICAN player - not a European player, and we'll be back!


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z7uQNvoHdYI&feature=youtu.be

Are you a moron, John? I'm not saying that you are, I'm just asking, because based on your posts, there's a good chance that you might be.

NOBODY on the European team "screamed about how American pool players cannot challenge you". Not a single one. This has been pointed out to you in this thread already, and you've clearly watched the footage a few times, so if you believe that they did, you might be a moron.

NOBODY on the European team said that the USA team was "disposable and can't compete". The word "disposable" isn't said a single time in your video - even by the people who aren't on the European team. Do you understand why saying that they did will make the reader of your posts question your mental capacity?

In fact, the only person that represented the European team in that video, was Marcus, who said that his team was the best in the world and that he was willing to play an Asian team to prove it. You haven't included it, but he also very deliberately made a point of saying that the USA team was great, that he knew how hard they worked and that they would bounce back. As is traditional when the victors compliment their opponent, a round of appreciative applause broke out, yet some of the American team did not join in - very disrespectful! I wonder if you will criticise them as harshly?
 
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Are you a moron, John? I'm not saying that you are, I'm just asking, because based on your posts, there's a good chance that you might be.

NOBODY on the European team "screamed about how American pool players cannot challenge you". Not a single one. This has been pointed out to you in this thread already, and you've clearly watched the footage a few times, so if you believe that they did, you might be a moron.

NOBODY on the European team said that the USA team was "disposable and can't compete". The word "disposable" isn't said a single time in your video - even by the people who aren't on the European team. Do you understand why saying that they did will make the reader of your posts question your mental capacity?

In fact, the only person that represented the European team in that video, was Marcus, who said that his team was the best in the world and that he was willing to play an Asian team to prove it. You haven't included it, but he also very deliberately made a point of saying that the USA team was great, that he knew how hard they worked and that they would bounce back. As is traditional when the victors compliment their opponent, a round of appreciative applause broke out, yet some of the American team did not join in - very disrespectful! I wonder if you will criticise them as harshly?

+1 Good post
I think when Marcus they are best in world , he had to then say they will play Asia to prove it . Cos he cannot say they are best when they have not played other regions .
But the big blow is when Big Boss paymaster Barry later said something like they will find another team to play Euro. it is natural to want to bring it to higher level of competition . Do not think that is a deliberate slap to USA :)
 
I'm American and I really don't care who wins. I say whomever played the best should win and it happened to be the Europeans.

And everybody keeps saying "we" lost. I don't remember losing anything...I didn't even play.

The same goes for football, baseball, basketball and whatever. If I ain't playing, I didn't lose anything. I'm just a spectator watching a game.

The only time I get concerned about losing at pool is when I'm playing and there is money involved.

It's just a game. Don't get so excited about it.




Well that's a bit selfish, eh bloke?
After all - the team's label is the USA. Are you not a USAian?

Anyhow.... I got me some new chaps and it's time to say "nitey!"

Tomorrow I'm going to pot me some balls and look for the bloody blue-spot.


Big, colorful-text to all of you!
Nitey-nite now.
 



Well that's a bit selfish, eh bloke?
After all - the team's label is the USA. Are you not a USAian?

Anyhow.... I got me some new chaps and it's time to say "nitey!"

Tomorrow I'm going to pot me some balls and look for the bloody blue-spot.


Big, colorful-text to all of you!
Nitey-nite now.

Somehow I bet your new chaps may be A$$less:D nite nite JD.
 
Kinda stings a little but lets be honest, its the truth. I'm all about America winning but we just don't look like the big table player's of old. Everything about them is better.
On a bar table, we'd kick the crap out of them.:smile:

On what basis? Your cb control is terrible - those mistakes only magnify on smaller tables.
 
I confirm. I'm all for Europe, but me and others at the club we found ourselves rooting for the USA side plenty of times the last 2-3 years. Even the crowd at the Ally Pally were starting to root a bit for USA, in case you didn't notice.

Yep. The truth is, if this was a boxing match, it'd been stopped in the third and there would be no possibility of a rematch.
 
Are you a moron, John? I'm not saying that you are, I'm just asking, because based on your posts, there's a good chance that you might be.

NOBODY on the European team "screamed about how American pool players cannot challenge you". Not a single one. This has been pointed out to you in this thread already, and you've clearly watched the footage a few times, so if you believe that they did, you might be a moron.

NOBODY on the European team said that the USA team was "disposable and can't compete". The word "disposable" isn't said a single time in your video - even by the people who aren't on the European team. Do you understand why saying that they did will make the reader of your posts question your mental capacity?

In fact, the only person that represented the European team in that video, was Marcus, who said that his team was the best in the world and that he was willing to play an Asian team to prove it. You haven't included it, but he also very deliberately made a point of saying that the USA team was great, that he knew how hard they worked and that they would bounce back. As is traditional when the victors compliment their opponent, a round of appreciative applause broke out, yet some of the American team did not join in - very disrespectful! I wonder if you will criticise them as harshly?

Sir , i believe u are trying very hard as i had and we both has been incredibly clear n precise about the europeans not being disrespectful.

Conclusion , i realize we do not waste our time persuading someone who might seriously be intellectually handicapped or simply just blinded by emotions n rage.


If op wanna know whats disrespectful , it wld be earl.strickland announcing live on tv that Europeans can't play n only look good with balls hanging outside d pocket ,

Whats more he got up and screamed " he suck " afrer a european opponemt missed a shot and continue to belittle an european opponent after losing.

Last time i check , he's of american nationality but i still believe he's just a case of a rotten apple and it doesnt mean all apples are bitter n sour.

Good luck understanding that if ya're a spoilt bread american who cant accept losing with a pinch of salt, it merely makes victory sweerer for em european boys.
 
Audio was not that clear, but from my understanding was that he said that his team is the best in the world, then he said he knows what the audience were thinking that some teams in Asia are better, he mentioned China, Philippines. Then I can't hear much but seems he said that he can challenge Asians probably proving that his team is the best. I don't think it is disrespectful to USA team. That is sport, you need to feed excitement to viewers.
 
Well - I'm really disappointed in Europe's take on the #Mosconi Cup and their post-game celebration.

I don't think it should be part of your celebration to scream about how American pool-players cannot challenge you and how you're going to have to go to the Philippines to find some competition.

You won and you should be happy without telling America that we're disposable and can't compete.

This Event was named after an AMERICAN player - not a European player, and we'll be back!


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z7uQNvoHdYI&feature=youtu.be

If you are referring to Marcus "The Little Napoleon" Chamat, his words were taken out of context yesterday in his captain's celebratory speech. I know Marcus, and he loves America, American pool, American players, and did live here for a while.

As well, I actually was typing his words when he was speaking yesterday, and I only saved a few sentences to share in another thread. He was giving his team accolades by saying, "We're the best team in the world!" He was excited and happy for the win. He added that, basically, he invited anybody to come play them some, whether it's China, Philippines, et cetera. He wasn't bashing Team USA; rather, he was giving his team accolades. Marcus would *never* have a bad word to say about anybody in the pool world. He's not that kind of guy.

To know him is to love him. He's got heart, humor, and game.

Again, Marcus would never, ever have anything bad to say about America, American pool, or any of its pool peeps.
 
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After watching the video that was posted, the only person that appeared to say anything somewhat disrespectful was the promoter. But that is kind of his job. More specifically, his job is to get interest in other venues so that he and the people that he represent can make more money. I think the commentator at the end was just restating what had been said.
 
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