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Shane and Rodney are such great players. It is strange that they tend to struggle in the MC. Hopefully they can turn it around in the next 2 days
 
Shane and Rodney are such great players. It is strange that they tend to struggle in the MC. Hopefully they can turn it around in the next 2 days

SHANE is a great player but this format puts a hitch in his giddy-up. His break which leads to table control if not impressive packages, is neutralized which adjusts his speed from a top 5+- player on the world stage to a top 30 +- player. Keep in mind what the RUSSIAN did to SHANE in MOSCOW when he took his break away.

In this format RODNEY is eligible to be the weakest link on either team. He's careless with snow and isn't the shot maker he once was which enabled him to overcome q-ball errors. To a lesser degree Mike D is also penalized by the break format + his weak (on a comparative basis) q-ball, but, he can come with shots that will make an opponents blood run cold.

That said, i got the USA + 3 games for the rest of the event and i think i like it.
 
Horrible safeties missing easy balls poor breaks all from the US and you think EU are winning cause they had all the rolls? give your head a shake.

The rolls have been about even. Shane made a poor shot in the day's final rack but was very fortunate to leave the two ball crazy tough for Darren. The bank of the two by Darren that followed was one of the very best shots of Day 1.
 
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It's not that europe gets more rolls. It's then when they do get a roll they shove it right up our a$$ . When we get a roll it's 50/50 that we make them pay. That's the difference in all sports when the best meet.

They're best is just better then our best...it's that simple.
 
It's not that europe gets more rolls. It's then when they do get a roll they shove it right up our a$$ . When we get a roll it's 50/50 that we make them pay. That's the difference in all sports when the best meet.

This is a good point - good rolls that result in racks won/lost (via the opponent capitalising) are always more memorable than those that don't.

They're best is just better then our best...it's that simple.

This is true, but I also think, just as importantly, Europe's second best is better than the USA's second best. The European players have stronger technique/fundamentals - that almost always translates to a better B-game.
 
It's not that europe gets more rolls. It's then when they do get a roll they shove it right up our a$$ . When we get a roll it's 50/50 that we make them pay. That's the difference in all sports when the best meet.

They're best is just better then our best...it's that simple.

Very good point.

In short race alternate break events whoever manages mistakes the best almost always wins. By managing mistakes I mean two things:

- Turning the page when you make a mistake and not making another mistake because you are shook from the last one. Americans are guilty of this much more often than the Euros.

- Taking advantage of the other guy making a mistake and making him pay. If you don't make him pay for a mistake or worse make one yourself and give him the game it is deadly in a short race. Again the Americans seem to do this last part a lot more than the Euros.

Its exactly the same as turnovers in football. The euros make less turn overs and convert more of them into points when they get them.
 
Hoping for a better day today from Team USA. We have good players who are ALL capable of winning matches. It all comes down to making shots and getting out. To win in this format, you must take advantage of every opportunity and not give anything away. So far that has not been the case these first five matches. I saw countless missed opportunities and careless errors. If you watched you saw them too.

What we are watching here and in the last few years with the MC is the importance of the mental side of pool. I've long said the game is half mental and half physical. You can be a gifted pool player (and I've seen many) and still be a losing player if you can't get your head right. That's where our breakdown lies. It's not because we lack the ability to make shots and execute safeties. There is no shot that the European guys are making that our guys couldn't make as well, or better for that matter!

These guys need to get down on their bellies and play some frickin' POOL and quit thinking about what's at stake. They practice all their lives for an opportunity like this, so now embrace it, go for it, shoot someone's nuts off! You can all be friends tomorrow, after it's over. Right now they want to kill you! Get it? :eek:
 
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Let me tell you a big one in the final match. svb is up by one game 2-1 . They get in a safety battle jumping balls back and fourth. Finally appleton lets svb see a full ball but it's a long bank or play another lock down safe. They would have played the safe. Svb sells out on the bank. Misses badly and gives appleton another easy out on these slush boxes they're playing on. Before you know it he's now down 3-2. Like you said it's a short race. You can't come back from that easily.

Just my opinion..here's to hoping for a better performance today.

Very good point.

In short race alternate break events whoever manages mistakes the best almost always wins. By managing mistakes I mean two things:

- Turning the page when you make a mistake and not making another mistake because you are shook from the last one. Americans are guilty of this much more often than the Euros.

- Taking advantage of the other guy making a mistake and making him pay. If you don't make him pay for a mistake or worse make one yourself and give him the game it is deadly in a short race. Again the Americans seem to do this last part a lot more than the Euros.

Its exactly the same as turnovers in football. The euros make less turn overs and convert more of them into points when they get them.
 
yeah i know and dont disagree....... but who do u think gets a roll more likely? the one whos positive and in stroke or the one who is negative and not in stroke?
in the end europe outscored team US in the long run over the last 10 years as they did today, and thats surely not the result of a few rolls!
i understand your dissapointment tho.....


Wasn't talking about the past 10 years, just yesterday.

Lou Figueroa
 
Horrible safeties missing easy balls poor breaks all from the US and you think EU are winning cause they had all the rolls? give your head a shake.


Speaking of abysmal: show me where I connected the rolls with the EU winning.

Lou Figueroa
then give
your head
a shake
 
The rolls have been about even. Shane made a poor shot in the day's final rack but was very fortunate to leave the two ball crazy tough or Darren. The bank of the two by Darren that followed was one of the very best shots of Day 1.


Were we watching the same event? It was even noted from the booth that the US was getting more bad rolls.

Lou Figueroa
 
When you say a team that won got all the rolls, you are blatantly suggesting that said rolls affected the result.


Biggest roll went to Rodney anyway, rolled off by about 5" ;)
 
When you say a team that won got all the rolls, you are blatantly suggesting that said rolls affected the result.


BS.

It is an observation no different than noting the table they were playing on had an outward roll at the bottom left corner pocket (which it did).

As I originally said, the Euros have the better squad.

Lou Figueroa
 
Speaking of abysmal: show me where I connected the rolls with the EU winning.

Lou Figueroa
then give
your head
a shake

Europe. The "EU" thing has been covered. It used to be the EEU. European Economic Union. The EU doesn't refer to the countries - only their economic ties to using the same currency. If you were playing the EU, Gray couldn't have made that 7. And Shaw wouldn't be playing. And Daz couldn't have thrown his cue on the floor.

If you're going to tell people to shake their head, make sure you're above reproach.
 
Europe. The "EU" thing has been covered. It used to be the EEU. European Economic Union. The EU doesn't refer to the countries - only their economic ties to using the same currency. If you were playing the EU, Gray couldn't have made that 7. And Shaw wouldn't be playing. And Daz couldn't have thrown his cue on the floor.

If you're going to tell people to shake their head, make sure you're above reproach.


Sorry you don't care for my shorthand.

Lou Figueroa
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