Mosconi Cup - Strickland

9balllvr

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Just my two cents.....ok, since it appears I am the only person awake this early in the morning (haven't slept yet is the only reason).....I am appalled at what I just read on the main page. I hear the same question over and over again from these forums - it centers on the reasons pool doesn't have good press....well, when you have people like Earl representing you, where can the game go? I can understand that he might be upset about the shot clock incident with Chamat, but to yell "You suck, you suck, all of London sucks!" and then to have to be restrained by Archer - well, that is just WAY over the top - he should be reprimanded somehow. I know there are fans out there for him, but this is terrible sportsmanship and it is once again a slap in the face for the game.

I just had to get that out....thanks for letting me vent.

9balllvr
 
Crazy, i know one mosconi cup where they boo'd him and he had this statement about them or something but it was funny to see. I love earls game but man what is up with him.
 
Well I think honestly the bottom line is people turn on TV to be entertained....
Earl does that everytime he does to the table either by playing pool or by creating an atmosphere with his comments....

Matchroom sport are interested in TV ratings, hence the regular inclusion of Steve Davis (The UK has had better pool players than him for years now but he is a household name in the UK) Earl is one of the reasons non pool fanatics watch the game.....and I wouldnt be surprised if he was paid to cause some havoc....
 
We have to stop making excuses for Earl. Bad behavior is bad behavior. If Ronnie O'Sullivan said the reason he snubbed the IPT KOH is because all Americans are boorish snobs with the manners of a pig I'll bet he would have been banned from ever playing in the States. Not that he'll mind that, of course.
In any sports organization sanctions can be imposed on players who make even minor indiscretions. What Earl did was a diplomatic faux pas way beyond minor.
Shame on you Earl.
 
Heckler said:
Well I think honestly the bottom line is people turn on TV to be entertained....
Earl does that everytime he does to the table either by playing pool or by creating an atmosphere with his comments....

Matchroom sport are interested in TV ratings, hence the regular inclusion of Steve Davis (The UK has had better pool players than him for years now but he is a household name in the UK) Earl is one of the reasons non pool fanatics watch the game.....and I wouldnt be surprised if he was paid to cause some havoc....

On the other hand, if a non pool fan were to stumble on the match while watching tv at just the exact moment earl began his tirade I bet he would've been very turned off.

(But then again, we don't know what goes on behind any sports fan's thinking. I mean, people watch pro wrestling, don't they?)
 
Invariably, whenever Earl disgraces our sport, several on AZB claim he's misunderstood, some call him colorful, and still others suggest that his excellent track record in competiiton somehow excuses his behavior.

In my case, however, I'll join others in taking public exception to Earl's antics. The way he verbally abuses the fans if they upset him in the least is very disturbing, and it's very hard to believe that he hasn't learned his lesson yet.

Pool's ship is, arguably, coming in in the form of the IPT, and yet Earl still sees no need to act with poise and civility when he competes. Tough to figure, and truly regrettable.
 
In every sport you have an outcast, whats the problem with it? Does it hurt the sport or is it helping the sport.

To have a good answer on this you should look at the past:

John McEnroe was a legend and still playes in the Alex classics. We all know him for his rude behavier, but it added something extra to the sport and people went to the stadium for it.

Paul Gascoigne was a soccer player for England and alway's made comments on the fiels and against the press, he was / is crazy, but people went to the stadium for it.

Dennis Rodman was on of the best players of the Chicago Bulls and was with his extravaganze on every magazine in the US. Not a day without him and the sport was metioned in the papers.

SO, like him or not but don't claim it is not good for the sport!
 
If I'm going to have to suffer through 40 min of beer and deodorant ads to
see 20 min of pool playing, I want to be entertained. And as amazing as it
is, seeing top pros running rack after rack after rack, it tends to put me asleep.

I want to hear McCready talk it up. I want to see Strickland explode.
I want to watch Archer pick lint off the table with Bucktooth in the chair.

Pocket billiards is pocket billiards, and pool's pool (Fatty?). I like POOL.
 
Earl is a jackass and famous for stuff like this...

This incident doesn't surprise me one bit, nor should it surprise any of you...
 
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Who was the better player. Minn. Fats or Luther Lassiter?

If you took a poll I am sure that must votes would be that Fats was the greatest and most would not even recognize Luther played pool.

I also heard that besides Steve Davis, Earl is also a mandatory member of the team.
 
I agree with berry the reason fans come and watch pool is for the action the drama and lets face it if earl didn't start to chunter then it would be the same it's like berry said if McEnroe didn't have an outburst with a "YOU CANNO'T BE SERIOUS" chucked in it would not be the same.

So to the pearl haters I say this the fans pays there money and takes their choice and if they can't handle earls antics the its simple DON'T WATCH!.
 
Too bad the Mosconi Cup is not telecast live on TV. After Earl's outburst their ratings would have skyrocketed with people wanting to see Earl self destruct.

It has often been said, all press is good, even bad press.

In a couple month's when they televise the Mosconi Cup it will be interesting to see if they show all of Earl's outburt. If they do then we will know that the powers to be think it is good for their TV ratings.]

But, you have to admit that his antics have already sparked an interest in the Mosconi Cup. Stay tuned for further episodes of Earl vs the English invaders.

At least everyone now knows that Earl and Archer are on the American team. I wonder who the rest are? I'm not kidding. I really don't know. I just haven't bothered to read about it. The IPT is more interesting.

And what is that about Ronnie O'Sullivan snubbing the IPT?

Jake
 
It would be fun to see John Macinroe play Earl in, well, any sport. Now theres a show that would have high ratings!
 
Renegade said:
On the other hand, if a non pool fan were to stumble on the match while watching tv at just the exact moment earl began his tirade I bet he would've been very turned off.
From a personal standpoint, if I were flipping the sports channels and ran across a sport that I didn't watch much, nothing would interest me more. Say beach volleyball is on. I'm flipping through and one of the chicks (or guys) is having a heated debate with someone in the grandstands. That's about the only reason I'm gonna watch for a while to see what transpires.



Hickok said:
If I'm going to have to suffer through 40 min of beer and deodorant ads to
see 20 min of pool playing, I want to be entertained. And as amazing as it
is, seeing top pros running rack after rack after rack, it tends to put me asleep.

I want to hear McCready talk it up. I want to see Strickland explode.
I want to watch Archer pick lint off the table with Bucktooth in the chair.

Pocket billiards is pocket billiards, and pool's pool (Fatty?). I like POOL.

the greatest thing to ever happen in NASCAR was the Daytona 500 in 1979. It was the first time that a major TV station had carried a NASCAR race. Here's a tidbit of what happened on the final lap from the Daytona 500 website:

"1979 Daytona 500--

Cale Yarborough and Donnie Allison delivered quite a show in the first live televised broadcast of the Daytona 500.

On the final lap, Yarborough pulled out to pass Allison on the Superstretch. The two banged fenders so hard they crashed into the Turn 3 outside wall before sliding down to the apron.

A.J. Foyt, Richard Petty and Darrell Waltrip were about a half lap behind the two embattled leaders. Foyt checked up once he saw the caution light while Petty and Waltrip passed him.

Petty and Waltrip proceeded to battle for the victory with Petty holding on for his sixth Daytona 500 win. But it was the show in Turn 3 that continues to make the highlight reels as Yarborough and Allison began a heated debate that turned into a fist fight with Allison’s brother Bobby jumping into the fray."



(IMO) That fight in turn 3 on the final lap caused millions of people to become fans, and when someone mentions NASCAR, that's the first thing I think about.

I agree with Hickock. I want to see good pool. But I want to be entertained as well.

Mike
 
YOu can't honestly think that Earl was unprovoked- no matter how minor it may have been, I guarantee that it was reaction. Who polices the audience? Do you think that whatever turned him was an accident, or intended to cause a reaction?

9balllvr said:
Just my two cents.....ok, since it appears I am the only person awake this early in the morning (haven't slept yet is the only reason).....I am appalled at what I just read on the main page. I hear the same question over and over again from these forums - it centers on the reasons pool doesn't have good press....well, when you have people like Earl representing you, where can the game go? I can understand that he might be upset about the shot clock incident with Chamat, but to yell "You suck, you suck, all of London sucks!" and then to have to be restrained by Archer - well, that is just WAY over the top - he should be reprimanded somehow. I know there are fans out there for him, but this is terrible sportsmanship and it is once again a slap in the face for the game.

I just had to get that out....thanks for letting me vent.

9balllvr
 
9balllvr said:
Just my two cents.....ok, since it appears I am the only person awake this early in the morning (haven't slept yet is the only reason).....I am appalled at what I just read on the main page. I hear the same question over and over again from these forums - it centers on the reasons pool doesn't have good press....well, when you have people like Earl representing you, where can the game go? I can understand that he might be upset about the shot clock incident with Chamat, but to yell "You suck, you suck, all of London sucks!" and then to have to be restrained by Archer - well, that is just WAY over the top - he should be reprimanded somehow. I know there are fans out there for him, but this is terrible sportsmanship and it is once again a slap in the face for the game.

I just had to get that out....thanks for letting me vent.

9balllvr
I was an EX small time soccer HOOLIGAN and I like to take this oppotunity to anounce that I am considering to bring that soccer fun to pool.who wants to join me.I am on Earl`s side.
 
It's one thing to be colorful or talkative or throw a fit once in a while. But him verbally lashing an entire region and its people is a whole different story. Defending this recent action of his is just plain stupid. I'm usually not one to get heated over something I see posted on this forum, but people justifying Earl's actions by saying "It's just Earl being Earl" or "It's good for the ratings" is moronic.

Let me ask a question. What if Steve Davis goes on camera and says..."America sucks! All Americans suck!" Would us Americans take this as a good thing for pool? Doubt it.

I'm sorry. Strickland is an outstanding talent, but it's such a shame he soils his ability with his pathetic attitude and behavior. If I was Archer, I would kick Earl out of the team, and the US should ban him from Mosconi play permanently, unless he makes an IMMEDIATE and public apology. Enough is enough already.

EDIT: Remember people, this is a TEAM competition. Earl is representing America, not only himself as an individual. I cared less during his antics at the US Open. But this is the Mosconi cup. If Archer and the US team remain silent on this incident, then basically that means that the US tolerates such behavior. As an American, i wouldn't want the US to be portrayed that way.
 
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I do not think that entertainment is a valid excuse for sacrificing common decency. It seems to be the way entertainment is going, but I would prefer that pool not take part in the trend. Look at snooker in the UK... it's quite popular with household names, and it has not had to sacrifice professionalism to get there. I'd like to see the same for pool. :)
 
Earl Strickland (USA) Embarassment)

What is it going to take for those in charge to FINALLY understand that this man is not only an embarrassment to the sport of billiards, but far more reaching he gives the USA a negative tint with his unprofessional and "CHILD MENTALITY) Stop letting him represent the USA , we dont deserve his negative representation
 
jsp said:
It's one thing to be colorful or talkative or throw a fit once in a while. But him verbally lashing an entire region and its people is a whole different story.

It is a North VS South thing.Earl has roots from Northern part of England,I guess. Londoners( southerners) might have called him a ` Northern KNOB (KNOBE)` and Earl retaliated.That is all to it,I guess.keep going Earl.Who wants to join Mosconi cup Hooligan squad!!!!!
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