Mosconi Cup - Your Prediction Please

Filler-Woodward is an even fight
Shaw-SVB is an even fight
Souquet-Hatch goes to Ralf
NVB/Alcaide-Oscar goes to Europe
NVB/Alcaide-Thorpe is an even fight
 
You left out one very big thing here! The addition of Johan Ruijsink as the Captain of Team USA. He is the real wild card in this situation and I expect to see a very different looking Team USA this year, both in attitude and actual play. I think Johan is the right guy to light the fire in Shane and as Shane goes so goes USA. I believe Ruijsink will find a way to get the most out of the team and produce our first victory in seven years. My prediction - Team USA 11-10 with Shane winning the final match! :eek:
I hope you're right Jay. SVB has a closet full of ghosts he need's to erase. Maybe Johan's influence will somehow allow SVB to just get out of his own way and play his usual speed. He's way past due for sure.
 
Posted on AZ back in 2014/15 that USA would win MC in 2017...
No reason to feel differently!
2017, the year of the Bald Eagle :thumbup:
 
After listening to the interview with Coach Johann on Mr. Bond's Billiard Radio the other week (I believe it is still archived are the site for anyone that didn't hear it), I'm very confident we will see a team USA unlike any other we've seen in a while.

With the sounds of pool balls popping into pockets in the background, Johann explains how his players have been at the table 8 hours a day training. I'm positive they aren't playing 8 ball on bar boxes. I wish the interview went more in depth into the training tactics (my guess there is a lot of PAT test drills), however Johann sounds very tactful and driven.

Then I watched almost all of the matches two months back with team USA vs team Russia. The boys played well together. They communicated well. The uncomfortable stances and distracting banter from past Mosconi appearances was wiped away from their doubles performances. There seems to be a system of unity and Mosconi cup play understanding that they have incorporated.

From fist bumps to smiles, these guys are a team, and they won as a team.

And the pressure is all on Europe to not just keep the streak alive, but face down their former coach on the other side. There's also a possibility of complacency. Are they training together as much as team USA?

This all adds up to a recipe for a shocking to the world of Rocky Balboan proportions.
USA 11-8

Eye of the tiger. Go USA!

Wow! I recall that when I expressed grave doubts about the logic behind the Johann choice, it was to a large extent because I felt he, and anyone else based in Europe, would be hard pressed to properly supervise the kind of preparation by Team USA that's needed for success. If he has them working as hard as your post indicates, then I was wrong, and it bodes well for Team USA this Mosconi.

Of course, talk is cheap and the proof is in the play. We'll see if Team USA has overcome the weaknesses that have been on almost continual display in recent years, particularly in pattern play, defense and kicking. Even more so, however, let's see if Team USA shows the kind of patience at the table with which Team Europe has always succeeded. Let the games begin!
 
Not hard to figure Kaci and Ouschan would have made a stronger Euro team alongside Shaw and Filler - take your pick for the final Euro player but it would not have been Souquet, if I was choosing, and I know many here would disagree with me on that.

There was a whole lot less obvious choices to choose from for the US, once you get beyond Shane and Sky, and maybe Thorpe. They had to take Hatch because of his ranking and his experience, and Oscar is certainly a solid player with impeccable character who'll be a great teammate, so it would be hard to argue his selection. I don't think anyone would have had a problem if Rodney had been selected either, with his experience and firepower.

The team pressure of this event, combined with the very short race format, make this a very unique event that is hard to prepare for and hard to predict. Every game must be treated like a hill-hill game. I really hope they are playing on a table with no larger than 4-1/4" corner pockets and 4-3/4" side pockets - which I feel would bring more legitimacy to the final outcome.
 
I think it will be closer this time, however I'd like Team USA's chances better if Rodney Morris and Justin Bergman were on the team.
 
I really hope they are playing on a table with no larger than 4-1/4" corner pockets and 4-3/4" side pockets - which I feel would bring more legitimacy to the final outcome.

No Matchroom event has ever been contested on really tight equipment. For me, it's best that way.

Matchroom does everything right as far as keeping matches exciting and moving along: a) neutral racker, b) inspection of the rack permitted but no reracks, c) pockets that aren't tight, d) shot clock in use in every match, and e) short races.
 


USA


In a close thriller


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The very top pros playing in one of the most prestigious events of the year, playing on a table that does not have tight pockets, makes absolutely no sense to me, even moreso when it's short races. In golf, you don't see the Ryder Cup or the US Open played on anything less than the most demanding of courses and conditions. I understand the short races for excitement and ratings purposes, but that doesn't make it right. It's like the MLB playoffs wildcard game being a one game sudden death affair, just for the made-for-TV drama and ratings, after having survived a 162 game 6 month season to make the playoffs.
 
No Matchroom event has ever been contested on really tight equipment. For me, it's best that way.

Ain't that the truth. Add in the brand new cloth and they get away with murder down the long rails. Most fails are positional not missing pots. Which ironically the new cloth adds to.

JC
 
I bet all my vCash on Europe...lol
But I hope USA wins and I have no more vCash

Koop - can't figure out how to spend it so might as well gamble it all
 
The very top pros playing in one of the most prestigious events of the year, playing on a table that does not have tight pockets, makes absolutely no sense to me, even moreso when it's short races. In golf, you don't see the Ryder Cup or the US Open played on anything less than the most demanding of courses and conditions. I understand the short races for excitement and ratings purposes, but that doesn't make it right. It's like the MLB playoffs wildcard game being a one game sudden death affair, just for the made-for-TV drama and ratings, after having survived a 162 game 6 month season to make the playoffs.

Given that the Mosconi Cup is pretty much the only globally televised 9-Ball tournament that is backed by major TV networks (well at least one) they clearly know their audience.

I agree that pro's should play on tighter pockets...but if this is what brings in the viewers then Matchroom clearly feel this is the right blend of luck/entertainment/skill.

Maybe the purists don't like it, but one of the draw's of the Mosconi Cup is probably the luck factor, it creates excitement if nothing else!
 
Simple math........

I really hope I am wrong on this, but I doubt team USA will be able to compete closely against team Europe. Team Europe just has a lot more professional players to pick from then Team USA.

That gives them the benefit of picking who ever the hot players are in any given year.

The very idea that Team USA can compete against a team made up of players from several countries is out dated.

How many of the Team Europe players live in the U.S. Where is the 9 ball racked at?

Team USA is playing against a stacked deck in my opinion and Team Europe knows this. That boosts their confidence going into the Cup.

I think it would be great to see those chest thumpers competing against a Team Asia.

That would include China, Taiwan and the Philippines. Who do you think would win that Cup?
 
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Given that the Mosconi Cup is pretty much the only globally televised 9-Ball tournament that is backed by major TV networks (well at least one)

I wish it were so,but near as I can tell there is no tv coverage in the USA .

If I am wrong please share with me where or how I can watch it (aside from being there)

Or watching it later on u tube.

It is amazing that they televise fishing,bowling,frog jumping,wife swapping,dog shows,contests between tatoo artists, something called corn hole (long time ago that was a bad word)

But no pool?
 
Given that the Mosconi Cup is pretty much the only globally televised 9-Ball tournament that is backed by major TV networks (well at least one)

I wish it were so,but near as I can tell there is no tv coverage in the USA .

If I am wrong please share with me where or how I can watch it (aside from being there)

Or watching it later on u tube.

It is amazing that they televise fishing,bowling,frog jumping,wife swapping,dog shows,contests between tatoo artists, something called corn hole (long time ago that was a bad word)

But no pool?

Yes for some reason in the US they only show it online...here in the UK we get it live on TV (as we do for all Matchroom productions) and I thought they also showed it live in mainland Europe and Asia.

No idea why, I presume it’s some kind of weird licensing thing!
 
Yes for some reason in the US they only show it online...here in the UK we get it live on TV (as we do for all Matchroom productions) and I thought they also showed it live in mainland Europe and Asia.

No idea why, I presume it’s some kind of weird licensing thing!

This year so far, I can't even find it online! I'm hoping someone will post a site that will stream it.

I think it's the most compelling example of the game. Even folks that seldom or never play pool can be drawn in. All the more amazing since it has been so one sided. The passion and intensity of the players, the level of play,the fans,and even the commentators seem to strive for excellence . More so then any other pool event IMHO
 
This year so far, I can't even find it online! I'm hoping someone will post a site that will stream it.

That's ridiculous if they don't show it in the US even online...I have absolutely no idea how TV/internet licencing rights work...but you'd assume someone could make money out of offering a ppv service at least in the US surely?

In a 2 team competition, how can the organisers not arrange for 1 team's supporters to watch the match...it makes no sense!!! If no-one else wants to buy the rights, presumably Matchroom can simply show it themselves via their website?

I think it's the most compelling example of the game. Even folks that seldom or never play pool can be drawn in. All the more amazing since it has been so one sided. The passion and intensity of the players, the level of play,the fans,and even the commentators seem to strive for excellence . More so then any other pool event IMHO

I agree, its what got me into American pool in the first place.

Growing up in the UK we see snooker on TV and most tables are the 7ft English pool style tables, so the Mosconi Cup was completely different to anything else. Also at the time, Matchroom televised the World 9-Ball Championships from Cardiff, Wales, so there was a lot of interest on this side of the pond.

Sadly it has died out a bit since then :-(
 
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