Bob,
As the table is completely disassembled now... Is there something I can do to "retrofit" the table with underslate heating as it is being rebuilt?
Moving to England! (Garage Insulation questions..)
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As the table is completely disassembled now... Is there something I can do to "retrofit" the table with underslate heating as it is being rebuilt?
My apologies. I responded before reading your post with regards to your new space...which looks fantastic by the way. As far as the garage goes, would some kind of solar panel/battery pack/generator be an option for heating the garage?
How about a wall mount liquid propane unit for the garage?
Something like this:
Dyna-Glo 30000-BTU Wall-Mount Indoor Liquid Propane Vent-Free Convection Heater BF30PMDG-4 at Lowes.com https://share.google/y23WeDTfBVt2RAaqd
This one is apparently Capable of heating 1100 square feet.
The table heating systems I've seen taken apart are most easily installed when the table is together. Usually there is a sheet of plywood or similar a few inches below the slates/frame with the heating wire mounted on it. It has to fit snugly against the skirts to keep the heat in. Since this uses significant power, you have to worry about overheating. Maybe talk to a local fitter? Top end snooker tables are heated.
Mmmmm.. I was looking for something more "automatic", that kicks in when the temperature falls below a certain level, and is energy efficient enough to leave running for multiple hours during the winter. Does this system fit the bill? I cannot follow the link, cuz apparently Lowe's thinks there are a bunch cyberterrorists in France looking to compromise their site, and I cannot get there from the French hotel I am in right now.How about a wall mount liquid propane unit for the garage?
Something like this:
Dyna-Glo 30000-BTU Wall-Mount Indoor Liquid Propane Vent-Free Convection Heater BF30PMDG-4 at Lowes.com https://share.google/y23WeDTfBVt2RAaqd
This one is apparently Capable of heating 1100 square feet.
Electricity costs are sky high in UK so electric space heaters are right out.
Any experience with infrared systems? I am okay to have multiple of them pointed at the table to maintain it's integrity,
I don't have any experience with infrared. I'll see if I can post a picture. These wall mounted propane units work pretty well according to an old boss of mine.
Hope this is of some use. Safe travels to you and your Wife.
propane is going to be expensive as well especially to put in. figure out what the minimum temp you can stand to play in and go from there.
and being a renter the owner isnt going to let you make holes in the walls.
if you seal all the cracks and hang a cover low over the inside of the room or the table and around it you can heat it with a simple electric heater.
but it looks like you can get it in your dining room or living room both at just big enough with a little trouble. you rarely need to shoot off a rail and need a big backswing.
in reality pay for the electric heat and just turn it on when you are getting ready to go in.
and being a renter the owner isnt going to let you make holes in the walls.
if you seal all the cracks and hang a cover low over the inside of the room or the table and around it you can heat it with a simple electric heater.
but it looks like you can get it in your dining room or living room both at just big enough with a little trouble. you rarely need to shoot off a rail and need a big backswing.
in reality pay for the electric heat and just turn it on when you are getting ready to go in.
Having moved twice, and helping my brother move house in the uk. You will be very lucky to find anywhere big enough to fit a 9ft. Its very old properties that have big dinning rooms. My brother had one on the first floor. Absolutely, huge room.but the floor was not going to support a slate table. Again that was a very old, Victorian building.
I managed to find one with a front room, just big enough for a 9ft. unfortunately for me, that only lasted about 3 years, before my wife got rid of it.
Your best route if you have a big enough garden, is to put a shed like structure, on a concrete pad. or on blocks, that can also work. That way, you can insulate it, the way you want.
Garages tend to be very small over here, (just enough to fit a car) unless your doing some kind of extenstion.
Are you going to take up snooker?!?!?!
For giggles, I put the table in your room. If the dims given were interior wall-to-wall, this is scaled accurately. You'd be ok except in one area. Obviously not ideal, but a climate controlled option with a view.
I would think if you get something that runs on lp without a fresh air intake for combustion, in a situation such as a garage you will be sucking in as much cold air as you will be heating. A garage with a cement floor will be really hard to somewhat warm up without being on all the time. Heat rises, the cement slab will stay cold if you just try and heat when you want to use.
Insulate the door best you can. Replace the trim wipe strips on the door if needed, and adjust the roller channels so the door seals up. I'm afraid if you want to use it year round, even if it means 50-60 deg for winter shooting, you will be running a heater full time as it takes too long to heat up a concrete slab that's gotten cold. I have in floor heat in my basement, garage, and shop, and if I decide to work on my boat in the winter it takes hours to start to bring the temperature up in the garage, but it get's really cold by me.
Something else to think about, Maybe there is a club there, or at least a place to shoot that has a yearly membership fee? Cost wise might be a whole lot cheaper than trying to heat an uninsulated garage in a rental place. If it was your own house, you would have many options of converting the garage into a pool room, but being a rental, makes it somewhat difficult.
Hope it works out as there is nothing better than a table at home.
I think you were near Fulda, I used to go there often. I was stationed on a radar site at Wasserkuppe Germany late 68 to mid 70.
The radar site has been torn down for quite some time, but looks like it is still a ski resort and possibly still a glider spot.
Absolutely loved it there, used to ski down to my apartment in the winter and grab the lift back up to work.
Insulate the door best you can. Replace the trim wipe strips on the door if needed, and adjust the roller channels so the door seals up. I'm afraid if you want to use it year round, even if it means 50-60 deg for winter shooting, you will be running a heater full time as it takes too long to heat up a concrete slab that's gotten cold. I have in floor heat in my basement, garage, and shop, and if I decide to work on my boat in the winter it takes hours to start to bring the temperature up in the garage, but it get's really cold by me.
Something else to think about, Maybe there is a club there, or at least a place to shoot that has a yearly membership fee? Cost wise might be a whole lot cheaper than trying to heat an uninsulated garage in a rental place. If it was your own house, you would have many options of converting the garage into a pool room, but being a rental, makes it somewhat difficult.
Hope it works out as there is nothing better than a table at home.
I think you were near Fulda, I used to go there often. I was stationed on a radar site at Wasserkuppe Germany late 68 to mid 70.
The radar site has been torn down for quite some time, but looks like it is still a ski resort and possibly still a glider spot.
Absolutely loved it there, used to ski down to my apartment in the winter and grab the lift back up to work.
Not sure if you are buying or renting. But if you're buying, a heat pump is what you want. They are cheap to run, very efficient and they heat up the room quickly. Cost is in the $2K range, so it's an investement for sure, so it will make more sense if you are buying the house, but compared to other ways of heating it will still be the least expensive option. I live in Norway, so we get much colder temperatures and we have two of the Daikin Stylish 2 and one Daikin Perfera, these have about a 5.2kw efficiency and they are quiet about 19db
www.daikin.co.uk
Stylish air-to-air heat pump
Daikin Stylish air-to-air heat pump or air conditioner for ambiant energy-efficient room temperature all year round.
www.daikin.co.uk
Put two of these 400w AH 400's under table.
Skirt the under area colors of your choice to contain heat.
The one I got yrs ago, was 46$ now they are 68$.
The seams are crimped nicely, won't leak like the older radiator style.