Sorry I sold this cue some time ago, it had 1 original shaft and a second shaft made by Carmeli.
My Day With Bob Meucci, One of the World's "Good Guys"
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Sorry I sold this cue some time ago, it had 1 original shaft and a second shaft made by Carmeli.
MMike
Wow, someone abused that cue.
There is a nice summer series with the orignal red dot shaft and a custom Lomax shaft on e-bay for 250.00. Is that a good deal? I think Lomax charges 200 for a shaft.
LOL...well what other cue was better than a Meucci for 9 ball from 1975-1989? You had Palmers, Adams, and a few others. With a Meucci, you could move the cue ball around so easily. Draw shots and follow was easier with a Meucci.
Back in the early days when someone used a Meucci, it was just amazing how they made balls and moved the cueball around with little effort. And if you don't believe it...well...you are just too young to have seen it or too old to remember it.:rotflmao1:
Then in 1989, I got a real job and worked full time so you didn't have to worry about me playing with my Meucci.
I seem to remember guys moving the cue ball just fine with Joss East or West, Szamboti, Balabushka, Palmer, Adam, McDermott, etc. As my stroke improved it didn't really matter what cue I used.
Oh...but we are talking about 9 Ball. None of the cues you mentioned could move the cue ball like a Meucci.
Even today I can set up a particular shot and only a Meucci can perform the shot like no other cue.:thumbup:
I play with Szamboti cues. They were certainly available at that time....are you suggesting my cue isn't as good as a Meucci?
I thank you for that.
Ken
I've never tried your Szamboti but did try one out in 1980. I liked my Meucci better for 9 Ball.
I've been around for a while and did visit Gus and got to see his basement.
I saw a lot of 4 prong pointy things hanging from the ceiling...LOL!
At the time, I had no idea how a pool cue was made from those things.
Not all Meucci cues are created equal of course. There are some good and not so good. When you got a good one, you knew it right away after hitting a few balls. I don't like them if the shaft is too whippy. My shafts were always around 13mm and not whippy.
My first Meucci cost $28 brand new and an extra shaft was $18.
In the early days-------
Sounds crazy but...they hit real good when new, but once you take the rubber bumper off, then put it back on they never hit the same. So I always told people, never take the rubber bumper off.
Of course now days, you got to take the bumper off to put a weight bolt in the cue. You see lots of meucci cues being sold without a weight bolt.
I don't care what you're talking about, I gave up a Meucci for a Joss custom. I could move a ball the same or better and that's why I switched.
If I'm going to be "gun fighting" I want a "quickened" gun.
Yes, Meucci's get incredible spin with less deflection than any cue I've used while retaining a high degree of feel (I haven't tried all the current brands, so my experience has limits) - I've been testing this one using a wide assortment of severe shots to test it's limits - they're really high!
I can "kill/stun" the cue ball so much it looks like my table is "photo shopping" the cue ball reaction, it's like the tip is digging inside the cue ball, of course this isn't possible......at least I don't think so.
Modern technology is certainly impressive. Bob told me there were some other aspects to this cue that were different than I'd ever experienced. I tried to argue about not using the shorter ferrule, but Bob insisted it would be superior.....so far Bob's been right about this cue, and how it fits my style.
The amount of deflection is minimal, yet predictable. It deflects about an inch on a full table shot, this is perfect for extremely tight tables.
If I want to truly have a chance to break championship speed on the Diamond tables I'll need a great cue's assistance - When I'm going to be "gun fighting" I want a quickened gun.
Yes, Meucci's get incredible spin with less deflection than any cue I've used while retaining a high degree of feel (I haven't tried all the current brands, so my experience has limits) - I've been testing this one using a wide assortment of severe shots to test it's limits - they're really high!
I can "kill/stun" the cue ball so much it looks like my table is "photo shopping" the cue ball reaction, it's like the tip is digging inside the cue ball, of course this isn't possible......at least I don't think so.
Modern technology is certainly impressive. Bob told me there were some other aspects to this cue that were different than I'd ever experienced. I tried to argue about not using the shorter ferrule, but Bob insisted it would be superior.....so far Bob's been right about this cue, and how it fits my style.
The amount of deflection is minimal, yet predictable. It deflects about an inch on a full table shot, this is perfect for extremely tight tables.
If I want to truly have a chance to break championship speed on the Diamond tables I'll need a great cue's assistance - When I'm going to be "gun fighting" I want a quickened gun.
No doubt, the old Meuccis played strong on the bar rags. Each of us has an opinion on what makes a cue hit well. I'd have to say for the price and availability, Meuccis were a deal.
I used a Szam on the big tables for straight pool. Ran my first hundred with it. It hit solid, but wasn't too good on bar tables.
Those days I owned about every cue made. The Meuccis just played good.
Best,
Mike
I used a Szam on the big tables for straight pool. Ran my first hundred with it. It hit solid, but wasn't too good on bar tables.
Those days I owned about every cue made. The Meuccis just played good.
Best,
Mike
You had Schulers, Helmstedders, Adams, Palmers, Heublers, McDs, Szamz, Richs, Blacks, Vikings, Kersenbrocks, Spains, (Balabushkas and Rambows weren't too plentiful). The only one I didn't own, but shot with was a Kersenbrock. Moochie was my choice.
Best,
Mike
Honestly, I'll go with that one. My friend calls them God Shots. He has seen me in the position where my ball is frozen on the short rail. I have a long shot and not much of an angle. In many cases, I can crush the rail and put the ball in the pocket. Thats pretty much zero deflection when you can do that.
While that may be true for you, it isn't for the rest of us. If I couldn't move the cue ball the same or better, I'd still be playing with a Meucci. I'd really like to see what CJ is playing with because I've a feeling it's not like the ones I played with.
Edit: I'd like to see some close ups of CJ's cue, the joint and the ferrule, in particular, please, that is, if Bob doesn't mind
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Strickland was even playing with a CueTec back then and moved the ball pretty sporty. And rumor has it, he has been known to play a little 9-ball on occasion
It's true. I think that Meucci and Cuetec hold the records for most titles and world championships won using them.
Not wanting to debate exact construction of the cues used in all those titles.
Simply,
Player-Event-Cue Brand
Meucci and Cuetec are on top.
Strickland was even playing with a CueTec back then and moved the ball pretty sporty. And rumor has it, he has been known to play a little 9-ball on occasion
:scratchhead:
I think Earl hooked up with Cue-Tec in the 1990's.
I'd have to go back and check my books, magazines, and tapes.
I have way too much junk around here and it's all about pool.
I asked Earl about the Cue-Tec Cue and how he like them...but I won't repeat what he said.
I know when Cue-Tecs first come out, it was like driving a truck.
But I can honestly say now, some shoot real nice and it's easy to pocket balls.
For some reason, I can cut or shoot a ball real thin up the long rail and seems really easy with the new Cue-Tec I have here. I really like how the shaft is tapered or not tapered.:thumbup:
"what is he doing lately," because that's what's important...I wanna play better now
I don't know all the history of Meucci cues, and like most companies I'm sure he's had his "ups and downs". In my world it's more about "what is he doing lately," because that's what's important...I wanna play better now.
He spent a lot of time with Mary Avina and myself talking about what makes the best cues and the detailed reasons. I'm just a novice when it comes to "talking cues" so I listened, but didn't have much input.
He talked about two new types of ferrules and some high tech joint/screw material he was starting to use. I can't remember the terminology, in a day or two I'll take a picture of the cue and post it, haven't had the time yet, just getting caught up on the 'TIP Banking Secrets' orders today.
I just simply ask Bob if he had and cues with the big screw that went into wood with steel on the outside (I didn't even know the name, it just happened to be the exact cue he had been playing with although he doesn't produce many of them by request).
This combination gives a "crisp" hit and the feedback from the cue ball is ideal to me. I don't like the cues that absorb the impact and dampen it, I like to FEEL the cue ball, this gives me the most "touch".
While that may be true for you, it isn't for the rest of us. If I couldn't move the cue ball the same or better, I'd still be playing with a Meucci. I'd really like to see what CJ is playing with because I've a feeling it's not like the ones I played with.
Edit: I'd like to see some close ups of CJ's cue, the joint and the ferrule, in particular, please, that is, if Bob doesn't mind
I don't know all the history of Meucci cues, and like most companies I'm sure he's had his "ups and downs". In my world it's more about "what is he doing lately," because that's what's important...I wanna play better now.
He spent a lot of time with Mary Avina and myself talking about what makes the best cues and the detailed reasons. I'm just a novice when it comes to "talking cues" so I listened, but didn't have much input.
He talked about two new types of ferrules and some high tech joint/screw material he was starting to use. I can't remember the terminology, in a day or two I'll take a picture of the cue and post it, haven't had the time yet, just getting caught up on the 'TIP Banking Secrets' orders today.
I just simply ask Bob if he had and cues with the big screw that went into wood with steel on the outside (I didn't even know the name, it just happened to be the exact cue he had been playing with although he doesn't produce many of them by request).
This combination gives a "crisp" hit and the feedback from the cue ball is ideal to me. I don't like the cues that absorb the impact and dampen it, I like to FEEL the cue ball, this gives me the most "touch".
Thanks, I appreciate your input.
There's no exact way to play this game, it often depends on our history with other...
This Meucci is certainly bringing back a lot of positive memories. With me right now, I'm just remembering the keys to that "high gear". I just "real eyesed" something about my grip and the way I hold my cue that makes the game so much easier for me. There's no exact way to play this game, it often depends on our history with other sports and games.
My game was tennis, so I incorporated a grip that made it so I couldn't hit the cue ball off line. This does wonders for my confidence and it's something I've been lacking in my own game. When I'm teaching I try to show the player things using THEIR style and technique as opposed to mine (which I'm reluctant to teach).
Playing pool is a journey, not a destination, and thank goodness I'm not too stubborn to learn what the Game is teaching. 'The Game is the Teacher'
This Meucci is certainly bringing back a lot of positive memories. With me right now, I'm just remembering the keys to that "high gear". I just "real eyesed" something about my grip and the way I hold my cue that makes the game so much easier for me. There's no exact way to play this game, it often depends on our history with other sports and games.
My game was tennis, so I incorporated a grip that made it so I couldn't hit the cue ball off line. This does wonders for my confidence and it's something I've been lacking in my own game. When I'm teaching I try to show the player things using THEIR style and technique as opposed to mine (which I'm reluctant to teach).
Playing pool is a journey, not a destination, and thank goodness I'm not too stubborn to learn what the Game is teaching. 'The Game is the Teacher'